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Post by witchcocktor on Jun 27, 2018 20:04:34 GMT
I second what pessimistpanda said though, about Mabari - I'd love to have another one. Nnnnnnonononono, if we are going to Tevinter, then we should definitely get an armored up primate companion/pet!
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Post by witchcocktor on Jun 27, 2018 15:25:22 GMT
The companion lineup will probably be influenced by romances, and what kind of combinations we haven't seen yet. But of course they've said that they come up with the characters first and then assign romances, but devs can lie.
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Post by witchcocktor on Jun 25, 2018 17:05:53 GMT
Throwing a gay male elf to my wishlist. If only to compensate the fact that Zevran was supposed to be gay and Solas' bi path wasn't done in the end. Make the gayest goddamn male elf please. It won't happen, but I'd also like to maybe combine classes/subclasses, and open the class building more. If there's something that reaaaallly kills the whole RPG aspect is that the classes and specializations are kind of boring and limited, and just don't make the characters feel unique combat/build-wise. I really hope they double down on building your character. DA:I was the absolute worst! I agree with the class-combination idea. They could probably come up with some sort of plot justification for giving the PC access to abilities across all three classes. Also, why stop at elves? I want a gay male for every single race in Thedas, including werewolves. Ooh, and a Golem! I just don't want my only roleplay option combat wise to be '' what weapon '' and '' what specialization. '' That's so limiting! They need to do SOMETHING new with the class and leveling system. Maybe I want to be a stealthy knight-enchanter dagger throwing fire breathing abomination! I don't know, just want a little more roleplaying in my combat and class system. Maybe even make all of the current specializations and talents and make them into their unique classes? Yea I would love gay all races but elves have been romanceable since the first game while qunari romances were just introduced and dwarves haven't been introduced at all outside of a insignificant flirty flingy-thingy. On that note, a gay elf I think, should be a priority for DA4. Funnily enough, male or female elves who are exclusively into men, haven't been introduced to the series yet, as a companion anyway.
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Post by witchcocktor on Jun 25, 2018 8:01:55 GMT
Throwing a gay male elf to my wishlist. If only to compensate the fact that Zevran was supposed to be gay and Solas' bi path wasn't done in the end. Make the gayest goddamn male elf please.
It won't happen, but I'd also like to maybe combine classes/subclasses, and open the class building more. If there's something that reaaaallly kills the whole RPG aspect is that the classes and specializations are kind of boring and limited, and just don't make the characters feel unique combat/build-wise. I really hope they double down on building your character. DA:I was the absolute worst!
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Post by witchcocktor on Jun 24, 2018 16:29:21 GMT
I agree 100%
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Post by witchcocktor on Jun 13, 2018 13:39:09 GMT
I never said otherwise. Passion is not enough when big companies are scared of gay and what it will do to the audience. And on that regard, yes, gay characters are still a big deal, especially if they are front and center. Thing is are these big companies afraid of diverse characters anymore? While these companies may have in the past been a bit slow to adopt diverse main characters out of fear of alienating their audience now they can't get enough of them, now days it seems like you are more likely to get a backlash for not featuring some sort of minority in your game. Yeah Disney may have been afraid gay people in the past but now they can't wait to show off their new cast of black transgender midgets in moves that seem calculated specifically for that sweet sweet social currency.
That said I think our convo is getting off track, probably best to return to talking about the game and just be happy that they are including same sex romances. You and I both know they can't add sexual minorities and showcase it to the public if only because of China, and while they might say '' oh yeah this character is this and that '' it's about same as Rowling saying Dumbledore is gay after the whole damn series has come to it's conclusion. It's all about tell, not show, and partly because they can't lose big movie markets like China. Hell, Disney censored the lesbian kiss on their E3 stream: they might seem LGBT friendly, but they are just corporate scumbags like the rest. And like I've already told you, they can add billions of completely insignificant LGBT characters, but it won't make a difference. QUALITY, over quantity. They aren't doing any service to minorities by adding completely irrelevant minority characters in their video games or movies. But we can't talk about adding female characters, racial minorities and sexual minorities as one issue, they are all separate things and issues. But yes, let's talk about the game.
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Post by witchcocktor on Jun 13, 2018 13:11:41 GMT
I'm sure there are a lot gay characters in games... as irrelevant NPCs who don't have any importance in the story or the protagonists development. But we have to start somewhere, and thankfully RPGs seem to be a great example of having wide variety of characters from all paths of life. Western RPGs, that is, and Nier, maybe Fire Emblem as well. It's certainly getting better, but it's not like we have something like a gay Dante, a lesbian Lara Croft or a bisexual Geralt, an iconic video games series starring a cool badass male/female protagonist who just happens to be gay. What matters is the quality, not the quantity. I think you have a point there but at the same time I don't think it is quite as simple as creating a gay Dante or a bisexual Geralt to fit a diversity quota. I do believe for a gay main character to work it has to happen out of genuine creative passion than a shallow attempt to appeal to a certain demographic, however even in saying that I do recall that some bigger studios have been quite reluctant to allow creators to create the characters they want, I believe Jack Sparrow could have been a brilliant example of how to do a bisexual main character right if Disney embraced the direction Johnny Depp was taking the character instead of actively fighting against it. I never said otherwise. Passion is not enough when big companies are scared of gay and what it will do to the audience. And on that regard, yes, gay characters are still a big deal, especially if they are front and center.
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Post by witchcocktor on Jun 13, 2018 12:10:35 GMT
I'm wondering how '' linear '' the game will be, as in will it be like Dragon Age where the world opens up more as you progress the main storyline, or if you are after a brief introduction basically thrown into the big world where you can do (almost?) anything and parts of the world isn't closed off until you progress with the main story like TES games. Because the latter would be much better for me. It's not linear, but I doubt it's going to be like TES either, lots of places should have limited access for security reasons and you have to find a way to gain access. Also, previewers were talking about "street cred" which is a form of reputation/XP you gain by doing content (not just main quests) that seems to affect what you can do (probably affect who is willing to give you quests). Hmmh, mixed opinions on this, but we'll see. As long as a lot of optional content isn't locked behind main story quests, I'm happy. In these games I'm looking forward to the roleplaying experience and making up my own story, instead of being chained to the main story because honestly, it could just... suck and not be that interesting.
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Post by witchcocktor on Jun 13, 2018 11:40:56 GMT
Things haven't magically gotten better just because America legalized gay marriage. There's a lot of regression and pushback, actually. Was mostly talking about gays being represented in popular media, I mean there has been gay characters and romances in a lot of games now, it really isn't that big of a deal. I'm sure there are a lot gay characters in games... as irrelevant NPCs who don't have any importance in the story or the protagonists development. But we have to start somewhere, and thankfully RPGs seem to be a great example of having wide variety of characters from all paths of life. Western RPGs, that is, and Nier, maybe Fire Emblem as well. It's certainly getting better, but it's not like we have something like a gay Dante, a lesbian Lara Croft or a bisexual Geralt, an iconic video games series starring a cool badass male/female protagonist who just happens to be gay. What matters is the quality, not the quantity.
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Post by witchcocktor on Jun 13, 2018 11:00:49 GMT
I'm wondering how '' linear '' the game will be, as in will it be like Dragon Age where the world opens up more as you progress the main storyline, or if you are after a brief introduction basically thrown into the big world where you can do (almost?) anything and parts of the world isn't closed off until you progress with the main story like TES games. Because the latter would be much better for me.
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Post by witchcocktor on Jun 13, 2018 10:41:33 GMT
Gays keep winning this E3, huh? TLoU2, Cyberpunk 2077 having gay romances, Assassin's Creed Odyssey having gay romances... Sweet. I suppose so but I thought it wouldn't be that big a deal by now? But honestly considering Odyssey is set in Ancient Greece I would be disappointed if there wasn't gay sex, those Greeks loved that stuff! Things haven't magically gotten better just because America legalized gay marriage. There's a lot of regression and pushback, actually. But that's not the point, what is cool is that it seems to be an industry standard that (western) RPGs with non-set PCs that include romances, have a same sex romance option as well. I can't really come up with any such games that don't have same sex romances.
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Post by witchcocktor on Jun 13, 2018 10:27:01 GMT
Gays keep winning this E3, huh? TLoU2, Cyberpunk 2077 having gay romances, Assassin's Creed Odyssey having gay romances... Sweet.
Regarding the FP, it's mandatory for me if the game is shooty-shooty. Hopefully there's a way to look at our model outside of cutscenes though.
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Post by witchcocktor on Jun 12, 2018 20:39:31 GMT
Slightly more intrigued. Hopefully there's no romance aspect in this game so I don't have to wind up disappointed.
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Post by witchcocktor on Jun 11, 2018 21:38:51 GMT
So, will we be getting gay romances this game?
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Post by witchcocktor on Jun 11, 2018 15:03:35 GMT
But it's not like Bioware doesn't want their loyal fanbase to get excited about Anthem and buy it, and that's why keeping any information about Dragon Age under wraps could just be a way for even the most jaded singleplayer RPG fans to keep Anthem in their minds instead of anything related to Dragon Age. Single player gamers keep in mind Anthem only as "that game the SH I like have made and I'm not interested in". Just because one thing is being showed a lot, doesn't make it interesting for people who don't like it. I can watch hundreds of sport/racing games stuff, trailer, interview, etch. But I will never be interested in those type of games. That's not the point, lol. From advertising point of view, what's the upside to Anthem, the game they are trying to market and get people interested in, if they promote another already existing and loved series and the possibility of a new game being in our hands closer than we think? Absolutely nothing. It's going to distract media attention and fanbase attention. You say that you are never going get interested in games like Anthem, but you are not everyone. There could be potentially hundreds of customers thinking of buying Anthem JUST because it's a Bioware product and because it MIGHT scratch the itch of a singleplayer RPG (even though it might not) until Dragon Age comes along. Start promoting Dragon Age and all those customers have their eyes only on Dragon Age, of course, and bleep bloop there goes all potential customers that might've checked out Anthem just purely out of frustration because no other Bioware game in sight. Maybe this is a very drastic example, but I don't think it's that far out.
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Post by witchcocktor on Jun 11, 2018 14:50:24 GMT
Frankly, I find little sense now in not pushing DA. Anthem is cleary not something that the DA players would be interested in (as in target audience of fantasy single player gamers) so there is no way DA would in some way steal the spotlight from Anthem. Actually, I believe now is the moment to use DA to keep interested the more "classic" fanbase, that is feeling left out from Anthem. A sort of "we haven't forget about you guys" thing. But it's not like Bioware doesn't want their loyal fanbase to get excited about Anthem and buy it, and that's why keeping any information about Dragon Age under wraps could just be a way for even the most jaded singleplayer RPG fans to keep Anthem in their minds instead of anything related to Dragon Age.
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Post by witchcocktor on Jun 11, 2018 6:39:12 GMT
That'd be enough, yes. They can't really hide behind '' it's the middle ages!! '' this time around either. Sigh. They didn't "hide" behind anything. You want your pound of flesh and that's great for you, but they don't owe you anything more than they do anyone else not interested in gay romance. TW was the story of a particular character. Cyberpunk is probably a story with custom character creation. Maybe it will have gay romance, maybe it won't, can't say I care either way, but generally I hope romance in general is only a minor theme compared to the rest. I'm well aware that Geralt is an existing character and not a player insert, and that's fine, I have no problem with Witcher. That DOESN'T MEAN though that people don't use '' it's the middle ages, people hate fags so it's not logical for there to be gay romance '' is still used as an argument, whether it's Witcher or Dragon Age or any other similar game taking place in a middle age inspired world, no matter whether it's a fantasy game or not. Keep your sighs to yourself.
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Post by witchcocktor on Jun 11, 2018 6:20:19 GMT
It doesn't matter whether it's grimdark or not, it just needs to stand out. For me, it didn't, and no amount of rain or neon lights or darkness can fix that. The world mostly looks like an edgier Overwatch universe with less personality, but it's just a trailer so making any kind of assumption about the game is misplaced right now. But if this trailer was supposed to make me hyped, it didn't. If you can make your own character, though, I'm definitely going to buy it, if only to support singleplayer RPGs. Also let me be gay plz, if there's a romance option.I am OK with just some casual flirt with Male NPC or at least let me say that I like guy. And don't forece me to romance a girl like their previous title.
But If they decide to give us full romance, I can't say that I don't want it. That'd be enough, yes. They can't really hide behind '' it's the middle ages!! '' this time around either. And if you can create your own character, and romance is a significant part of the game one way or another, I do think it would be short-sighted not to include same sex romances. I'm not sure what kind of a world a cyberpunk world is for same sex relationships and such, but you'd imagine it'd be a no big deal, but it all depends on how CDPR handles their world. For all we know it's just as racist, sexist and homophobic as the middle ages lol. But as long as there's no forced romance, I can deal with it.
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Post by witchcocktor on Jun 11, 2018 6:14:09 GMT
Okay, perspective! Bioware needs all eyes on Anthem, and any kind of information for DA4 that makes it sound like they are working on it hard and it's release is closer than expected, distracts fans, media and journalists from their new IP that they need to succeed.
Devs lie, they are lying liars, DA4 WILL have a trailer for E3 2019! Right...?
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Post by witchcocktor on Jun 11, 2018 5:56:32 GMT
It doesn't matter whether it's grimdark or not, it just needs to stand out. For me, it didn't, and no amount of rain or neon lights or darkness can fix that. The world mostly looks like an edgier Overwatch universe with less personality, but it's just a trailer so making any kind of assumption about the game is misplaced right now. But if this trailer was supposed to make me hyped, it didn't.
If you can make your own character, though, I'm definitely going to buy it, if only to support singleplayer RPGs. Also let me be gay plz, if there's a romance option.
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Post by witchcocktor on Jun 10, 2018 9:27:07 GMT
One of the best times I've had playing online was with Neverwinter Night's multiplayer. It had casual chat servers, RP servers, arena servers (deathmatch, team deathmatch, Capture the Flag, King of the Hill) and anything you could think of. Now if they could recreate such a multiplayer mode, and use your own customized PC to play on all the possible game modes, I would DEFINITELY consider using the online component. But, that would also mean the segregation of online and offline, which probably isn't the goal here.
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Post by witchcocktor on Jun 9, 2018 21:14:29 GMT
This. They are going after a whole new market and playerbase, something they've lost or haven't gotten. The mainstream, casual market. And I for one wish them good luck getting the playerbase, because if Anthem is successful in getting that audience, DA4 and possibly future ME game(s) are allowed to be more... daring and risky? More artistic freedom anyway. I don't want DA especially turning into some mainstream cashgrab that only appeals to that audience specifically. God that would suck. If this market and player base make EA a fortune why would they want bioware spending a fortune on the traditional single player RPG format genre rather than games aimed at that market Because I don't think Anthem's success is quick or fast enough to change the course of DA4 specifically, which is most definitely in production already. What the future holds, is unknown. I can't say they wouldn't be idiots and completely rework all their IPs to appeal to that market, pissing off the fans they already have, but I'd like to think that's not the case.
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Post by witchcocktor on Jun 9, 2018 21:08:45 GMT
This. They are going after a whole new market and playerbase, something they've lost or haven't gotten. The mainstream, casual market. And I for one wish them good luck getting the playerbase, because if Anthem is successful in getting that audience, DA4 and possibly future ME game(s) are allowed to be more... daring and risky? More artistic freedom anyway. I don't want DA especially turning into some mainstream cashgrab that only appeals to that audience specifically. God that would suck. I guess it's best they try to do achieve that by using a new IP that they can tailor to these specific needs, rather than completely reworking one of their already existing IPs from their bones. The ability limits in both DAI and MEA still hurt and those were relatively small design changes from the previous titles. Yep, if they are going after a new audience, do it with a new IP. But sadly, if Anthem isn't a success and doesn't get that new audience, I'm sure EA will push DA4 especially to be the mainstream market moneymaker, and if that's the case, say hello to the gameplay becoming even more simple and hack'n'slash-like, vast vain empty open world that just look pretty, (mandatory) online integration. Woo though DA:I was already a lot of that I guess. But it could be worse? Buuuuut, then again, if Anthem is a complete failure, they might not try the same ideas again for DA4, and just doubling down on what their fanbase loves. But when has corporate bigshots EVER learned from their mistakes?
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Post by witchcocktor on Jun 9, 2018 21:01:46 GMT
Can you imagine, in a year, we might have an official trailer for DA4, or at least something concrete. Anyone wanna fast forward the time a bit?
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Post by witchcocktor on Jun 9, 2018 20:53:08 GMT
seriously who is this game aimed at? It can't be traditional BW fans based on what they're focusing on. I think they are looking to get new fans as i don't think most of the old RPG Bioware fans will show much interest in Anthem. This. They are going after a whole new market and playerbase, something they've lost or haven't gotten. The mainstream, casual market. And I for one wish them good luck getting the playerbase, because if Anthem is successful in getting that audience, DA4 and possibly future ME game(s) are allowed to be more... daring and risky? More artistic freedom anyway. I don't want DA especially turning into some mainstream cashgrab that only appeals to that audience specifically. God that would suck.
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