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Post by conanzms on Mar 20, 2017 23:55:40 GMT
Erm... guys? I really REALLY don't want to revive the flames of rage, but there's a new small piece of contradictory info. Sorry if this has been posted before. Yeah, I'm gonna take that promise with about 10 tons of salt
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Post by conanzms on Mar 20, 2017 23:52:03 GMT
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Post by conanzms on Mar 20, 2017 23:15:18 GMT
Cmon guys, happy thoughts. This is literally the only safe haven right now for us Gilmancers. We are united under our love for this dork, no need for more civil war. So yeah, try to agree to disagree.
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Post by conanzms on Mar 20, 2017 23:10:09 GMT
Hmm, I'm not sure either, I think it's within this thread, where someone posted a comment not happy about Jill would be the one taking care of the baby (mostly), so that Gil and Scott can venture on with space shenanigans. I mean I kinda agree with that sentiment, If I'm going to have a child with my husbando I would like to have it in my care, not in the hand of a 3rd wheel/best friend/nanny. But anyway, that's the "out" I mentioned earlier. She is technically the mother, no? So it's sort of still with family. Gil says Jill wants to have baby, I would assume her plan is to use Gil's DNA he says she wants her to father it. There was some datamined line about her finding the best DNA in the genestock which could be from if you say no and Jill has a baby using a different sample and you become uncles. Well, I would not know the specifics because I'm keeping myself away from any more spoilers for Gil, the whole space (spoiler) extravaganza is as explosive as it gets LOL But yeah, I get what you are saying, either way, it's just a matter of personal preference on the topic.
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Post by conanzms on Mar 20, 2017 23:01:07 GMT
On the one hand, I don't think they would continue the Ryder saga, at this rate of review slamming them On the other hand, if you would like to spoil yourself further, I think someone posted video of the culmination of Gilmance, where they deliberately give an out to both situations, so that there would be no serious break in narrative should they choose to continue Scott's story. Where can I find this video? Just searching isn't giving me anything I've not seen. Hmm, I'm not sure either, I think it's within this thread, where someone posted a comment not happy about Jill would be the one taking care of the baby (mostly), so that Gil and Scott can venture on with space shenanigans. I mean I kinda agree with that sentiment, If I'm going to have a child with my husbando I would like to have it in my care, not in the hand of a 3rd wheel/best friend/nanny. But anyway, that's the "out" I mentioned earlier.
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Post by conanzms on Mar 20, 2017 22:49:28 GMT
IIRC, you would become space uncles instead of space daddies Is that better I wonder? Like from a story point of view, the world, the character's jobs...damn it this a tough one. On the one hand, I don't think they would continue the Ryder saga, at this rate of review slamming them On the other hand, if you would like to spoil yourself further, I think someone posted video of the culmination of Gilmance, where they deliberately give an out to both situations, so that there would be no serious break in narrative should they choose to continue Scott's story.
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Post by conanzms on Mar 20, 2017 22:43:20 GMT
Ah well, despite this shitstorm happening, still gotta I wonder what happens if you decide not to, it seems to be post sex scene. I'm curious but I will never break Gil's heart even though I hate babies. IIRC, you would become space uncles instead of space daddies
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Post by conanzms on Mar 20, 2017 22:39:06 GMT
Ah well, despite this shitstorm happening, still gotta
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Post by conanzms on Mar 20, 2017 22:25:03 GMT
At the same time, they wouldn't have the money or resources they have now. It's a double edged sword. And remember, EA is an inclusive company, which has plenty of lgbt content out there under its name. These decisions are never a cut and dried as they might seem. I just really don't want people to give BioWare a pass for something that they still have at least some amount of control over. EA has never have a problem with gay contents. They do a lot of business decisions that may piss off the dudebros, adding a rainbow shirt in their Fifa game, showing up often at gaycons, no problem at all with Sims 4 sex-free customization. The problem is not with EA, but with Mass Effect team, they have pulled this shit way before EA, all the way back to ME1. There is a clear difference between DA games and ME games. ME games don't care about gay players in EVERY single of their game. Yeah, you guys are right, ME team definitely at least should have the decency to fight for it, but they did not care in the end. I'm just in denial when the same developers gave us DAI would choose to screw us over with this, I mean DAI is like a (not saying it like a bad thing, but) SJW's wet dream we had straight, gay, lesbian, and bi/pan LIs IN THE SQUAD, with a prominent trans character featured in. I guess the project leads on DA and ME had different priorities in mind, (petition to have project leaders for future MEs to be gay, or bi, whatevs
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Post by conanzms on Mar 20, 2017 22:08:46 GMT
I'll try to give Bioware a pass right now, Believing that this decision had nothing to do with the writers or the devs themselves, but the managing had something to do with it I mean we have evidence that Jaal was bi at some point, or at least planned to be, maybe there was pressure coming down from EA, and not surprisingly it's us getting shafted again. I'm still thankful for the stuff they presented us with, it's just tiring that we always get the short end of the stick. It is impossible for us to know who along the chain of command made which decision. Just saying "it surely can't have been BW, must have been EA" misunderstands the complexity of the management structure and how they interact. The BioWare management aren't the same as the individual dev teams at each studio. And then within those dev teams, the producers aren't the same as the people on the writing teams, and so on. I don't need to know precisely who was or wasn't responsible in order to quite confidently say that for me BioWare as a whole does not get a pass. Ultimately the face of this decision is BioWare the company. The game is put out under their name. They made it. The ins and outs of who made the ultimate decision are, in a way, moot, because the game is a reflection of the company as a whole. I won't go around blaming individual devs. But I will blame BioWare. Because this is BioWare's game. You know what, I blame Bioware joining forces with EA, look where we end up now. I wish they were still independent, their creativity would not be stifled by corporate interest, at least to a lesser extent.
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Post by conanzms on Mar 20, 2017 22:05:33 GMT
I'll try to give Bioware a pass right now, Believing that this decision had nothing to do with the writers or the devs themselves, but the managing had something to do with it I mean we have evidence that Jaal was bi at some point, or at least planned to be, maybe there was pressure coming down from EA, and not surprisingly it's us getting shafted again. I'm still thankful for the stuff they presented us with, it's just tiring that we always get the short end of the stick. The idea of him being bi and scrapped makes me feel worse somehow. People are saying Vetra's writer fought for her to be bi, why couldn't Jaal's writer fight for him?I IKR? We'll get painted as the insatiable ones becuz we "got 2 options, what more do you want" But compare and contrast is a bitch, the hypocrisy and unfairness is over 9000.
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Post by conanzms on Mar 20, 2017 22:02:22 GMT
Hey guys. I had to take yesterday off to spend time with the husband. Well, only about 8 hours to go. Did I miss anything?
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Post by conanzms on Mar 20, 2017 21:55:32 GMT
I'll try to give Bioware a pass right now, Believing that this decision had nothing to do with the writers or the devs themselves, but the managing had something to do with it I mean we have evidence that Jaal was bi at some point, or at least planned to be, maybe there was pressure coming down from EA, and not surprisingly it's us getting shafted again. I'm still thankful for the stuff they presented us with, it's just tiring that we always get the short end of the stick.
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Post by conanzms on Mar 20, 2017 21:26:45 GMT
Here's to the premature salts to the DA4 datamining, cuz god knows what kind of non-existent romance we are gonna dig up next time ROFL I want a gay dragon LI. Do it or else Bioware. YAAASSSS, I want a dragon shapeshifter as an LI so I can literally RIDE my husbando into battle.
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Post by conanzms on Mar 20, 2017 20:59:50 GMT
Here's to the premature salts to the DA4 datamining, cuz god knows what kind of non-existent romance we are gonna dig up next time ROFL
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Post by conanzms on Mar 20, 2017 20:41:34 GMT
Everyone is talking about leaving and splitting up. I only just got here. I will still be here to see what excuse made of bullshit the devs plan to give us, so dont worry little gay hands! :3 Damn straight we'll stay, I grew up with salts Can't wait to hear BW's spin on this, maybe quoting TVTropes.org again. Sorry to the folks that this might sound like my fun is built on your pain, but the entertainment value is way too high to pass.
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Post by conanzms on Mar 20, 2017 20:08:49 GMT
It's hilarious that I told my friend that I could easily clock in 200hrs on MEA because of romances LMFAO Now? After I'm done [spoilers] with my Gil bear, MEA's dead to me After that, it's time to go back to DAI, download that bi-Cullen mod and give my gay KISA for a ride. Go DA.
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Post by conanzms on Mar 20, 2017 18:22:00 GMT
I'd like to invite one official from the ME team to comb through this 800 pages monstrosity that's built with salt And write an 8 pages, double-spaced essay on this. #justice
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Post by conanzms on Mar 20, 2017 17:49:26 GMT
Why are all the male aliens straight. Explain please. Because it makes sense ™™™™™™™™™™™ I've come up with the new slogan for BW: NOT GAMEY, MAKES SENSE (TM)
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Post by conanzms on Mar 20, 2017 17:34:33 GMT
Case in point, ladies and gents, Datamines no longer produce accurate infos anymore DAI trolled us with cut audio clips Now MEA trolls us with defunct codes GG guys, but a sincere thank you to all the dataminers who invested energy and time in this, you guys are the true heroes.
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Post by conanzms on Mar 20, 2017 17:25:27 GMT
Yeah I just spent 80 dollars to be rejected. Fun times. Go refund it, EA's "Great Game (oh the irony) Guarantee" is available for MEA, that means you can receive full refund before release.
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Post by conanzms on Mar 20, 2017 17:15:28 GMT
I guess there's some sort of balance that needs to be maintained at Bioware Where DA gets to be the edgy one in every sense, while ME struggles to do things right. Oh well, can't have everything I guess.
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Post by conanzms on Mar 20, 2017 8:59:06 GMT
The only logical explanation that I can come up now, is that EA did something that they know would anger us I mean I cannot imagine Bioware team going out of their ways to screw us after DAI And I think everyone was fairly happy with their options in DAI Unless ME and DA have different views on writing, managing, or keeping players in mind in general I'm dumbfounded right now.
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Post by conanzms on Mar 20, 2017 8:19:25 GMT
C'mon reapers, time to harvest this world again, because your Bioware overlord apparently can't get their shit straight
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Post by conanzms on Mar 20, 2017 7:46:53 GMT
I don't know what the big deal is, Do ME and DA have entirely different marketing teams? We've known DAI romances like eons before the actual release, So what does it take for someone official to speak something? Or are they just trying to sweep this under the rug?
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