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Post by conanzms on Mar 22, 2017 20:00:47 GMT
He's probably afraid of it effecting his early access shit and stuff. I don't know, put yourself in his shoes: maybe it's not about keep in good terms with the company. Maybe he is trying to show how he felt at that moment. Have you read his post? Now we can debate any piece of information. Now we can compare romances with videos, analysis and stuff. Biofan didn't have that when he played. He simply played and really loved the stuff. In comparision with other games, he could easily thought Gil romance was pretty similar to Fem/Kaidan Fem/Male/Liara Male/Ash etc back in the trilogy. So he didn't necessarily thought he was in the disadvantage team. Then all this info comes out and he finds in the strange position to see himself trying to defend why he loved so much the love triangle when Reyes and Gil are not as developed as romances as Cora, Peebee, Jaal I don't try to play Devil's advocate, just Tom, Biofan, Ashes... I think all of them are good people and we should give them the benefit of the doubt. Painting Biofan as an opportunist is kinda of unfair in my opinion. People who let you down are pretty consistent with that I wholeheartedly agree with your line of thoughts Problem is, he was here yesterday. He's the one who told us that Gil and Reyes don't reference each other even if you are in a relationship with both. We replied him with our frustration, and receipts of gay romances being significantly lacking in content comparing to other orientations. So, no. He DOES know, but he chose not to address it, I don't want to say more about this.
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Post by conanzms on Mar 22, 2017 19:45:34 GMT
I know he's trying to be positive, and defending Bioware is kinda his job description but this... I know, like... I really like Biofan, and his videos, and he seems like a decent person so I'm not attacking him or anything, but like... you can't just praise BW for being LGBT inclusive after they've fucked specifically you over, rather than any other demographic? Like, quite thoroughly? Their gay male fanbase was so obviously ignored and they got only scraps - compared to every other demographic, I mean we all know how much work went into Cora's and Peebee's romance scenes. He, as someone who knows people working at BW and is friendly with them, actually has a voice. Instead of defending BW's shitty "inclusivity" he could be criticizing them, politely and kindly of course, and maybe they would actually listen to him. Like, where's your integrity, man I feel you dude, I try not to speak ill of others, but I think we have a case of conflict of interests here Clearly BioFan is receiving review copies and other exclusive opportunities, so he kind of have to stay on Bioware's good side to maintain that. To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if he's actually on Bioware's payroll right now. Anyway, they are definitely in a symbiotic relationship here, and I can't blame him for white-knighting, but damn it hurts
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Post by conanzms on Mar 22, 2017 19:22:05 GMT
Also, don't know if this has been mentioned before, but can we talk about this tweet? Isn't the only reason you can be in a "love triange" with these two basically because they do not even acknowledge if you're in a romance with the other person? Like, there is no "triangle" involved beyond the fact that you're in a relationship with two different guys and technically cheating on both of them without them acknowledging it. I may be wrong, though, so feel free to correct me. I just feel like this is giving BW credit for LGBT content and inclusivity while in reality it's just another example of m/m content in this game being sidelined. And the fact that this is coming from Biofan. And the fact that Mac retweeted it. I know he's trying to be positive, and defending Bioware is kinda his job description but this...
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Post by conanzms on Mar 22, 2017 18:52:41 GMT
Sort of unrelated but reading that, it just occured to me how awesome it would've been if one of the new alien species had males getting pregnant instead of females. A seahorse alien, huh? That'd be cool. Maybe a monogendered (male) species to battle the asari ones, and who can get pregnant by aaannnyytthiinngggg they bang. Wouldn't the whole universe implode if those dudes banged asari? I don't know, not an expert on alien peepees and weewees
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Post by conanzms on Mar 22, 2017 17:18:12 GMT
He has a strong sexuality he isn't ashamed to express. Some straight women seem to like that. Is single at that point. And, from what I've read, he's committed to Ryder once locked in. It's not like he's walking into the women's shower room and tearing back the curtains to get a peek. Gay angara dude for MEA2 so we can see him try to bang all the dudes in the team, plz. Nah man, you know that ain't happening until the end of the next Reaper cycle
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Post by conanzms on Mar 22, 2017 16:55:39 GMT
A hetero womanizing character that shows interest in women douchiness. Inconceivable! There, fixed it for you.
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Post by conanzms on Mar 22, 2017 3:43:49 GMT
Current Stage of Grief:
Denial √ Anger √ Bargaining √ >Depression< Acceptance
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Post by conanzms on Mar 21, 2017 8:47:32 GMT
I was about to post this on Gil's thread, but I guess I left the salt here instead. I just finished a certain priority mission. Everyone on tempest has a new set of conversations, except for Gil who has zero new conversations. If some contents had to be cut, why it always resulted in the gay contents being cut to the minimal? Why couldn't some straight contents be cut instead? Still salty. To quote Monica: I've lost the will to scold. I've reached the fully saturated level of saltiness right now There's nothing more can surprise me at this point
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Post by conanzms on Mar 21, 2017 8:06:53 GMT
The m/m romances could've also been effected by cuts in order to bring the game to ship. So it may not have been original intent. Just pointing that out. Stuff gets cut in development all the time. Not good if it effected the 2 options we have, but there's defo not an "anti-gay" agenda going on. Peebee has a full on scene with Sara for one. And there's gays EVERYWHERE in the game. Tons of LGBT npc representation. The turian pathfinders were a gay couple even!
Thanks for the info man, really appreciated Thing is, no one is accusing them of being "anti-gay", it's just tone-deafness permeates the romance and LGBT related stuff, Be it shafted romance options, "deadnaming" trans characters (I learned something new today), or just general lack of content for gay dudes Don't get me wrong, I'm happy with my king Gil, but this is wrong, this is back-pedaling, and we need official addresses coming from Bioware about this, stat I'd like to hear their thought process on this.
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Post by conanzms on Mar 21, 2017 7:59:16 GMT
Yeah, that's pretty much what I thought when reading that as well. Doesn't seem like the writers intended it to be possible if they never even talk about it. I mean, if you're in a relationship with a guy (hell, having a baby with a guy) then that guy also being in a relationship with someone else seems like something that'd at least get mentioned, even if you are totally cool with it. Tbh it's starting to sound like most of the relationships, whatever orientation, are written to be non-exclusive... but they couldn't even program a one-off line or something? smh did they spend all their time & budget on Cora? Oh definitely, they had their priorities straight... get it? Straight?Ahem, yeah.
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Post by conanzms on Mar 21, 2017 7:46:45 GMT
OMG, seriously Not even referencing each other? What the actual fuck? It's like they were writing codes for them simultaneously and forgot about putting a check on romances "additional option for exclusivity" my ass. They are not even trying, period.
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Post by conanzms on Mar 21, 2017 7:20:46 GMT
Full Reyes romance featuring Scott: I'm not spoiling that for myself (even though I probably won't play the game for a while) but in case anyone wants to take one for the team, please do tell us if it feels like a full, proper romance or more like a fling (without spoilers please). Well, if you are curious, (and I think someone posted this already The height of their romance is a slow dance, and a long-ass away shot for a kiss, then fade to black. Pretty swell. /sarcasm
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Post by conanzms on Mar 21, 2017 7:00:18 GMT
I would never dream of subreddits joining front on this issue, this is so unprecedented Hope this message get delivered to BW loud and clear
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Post by conanzms on Mar 21, 2017 6:18:32 GMT
Man, I can't wait to log on tomorrow morning and witness the upcoming apocalypse
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Post by conanzms on Mar 21, 2017 3:44:57 GMT
No, he very definitely did say he fucked Jaal. He deleted that tweet after he realised it must have been a hallucination. The whole last twenty-four feel like a hallucination TBH. Mass, hallucination, if you will.
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Post by conanzms on Mar 21, 2017 2:33:20 GMT
It's not a very good game but The Technomancer is a sort-of Mass Effect-esque ARPG in a sci-fi setting. I wouldn't normally recommend it, but considering it's literally not that much buggier or poorly made than Andromeda (lol-ing so hard right) and contains a squad-based M/M romance that is on equal footing with the straight romances, you might want to consider it. I actually bought this but never played it! So... it's worth it? nehhh, I mean I'll confess I bought the game because of the romance with Andrew, If I have one word to describe the whole game, it would be ' awkward' I mean you can tell from its usual price tag: 45$, above indie stuffs, but also below AAA stuffs The combat is nice, and decent skill trees, tons of dialogues (and some flirts) with your companions, the quests are not bad either. But everything just screams awkward to me, like you can tell something's a bit clunky, but it's not that serious. And the romance with Andrew, yeah well, not top shelf material, but still nice nonetheless you guys actually have a history during childhood, and the possibility you harbored secret crush on him and all that the writing is good, but don't expect depth like mShenko, it's a medium budget project, don't expect too much That's my impression on Technomancer
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Post by conanzms on Mar 21, 2017 2:16:20 GMT
Gosh, I wish in the near future, especially when DA4 drops, we can be like: "Remember MEA's launch day? 'Cuz I don't."
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Post by conanzms on Mar 21, 2017 1:26:34 GMT
Okay so, apparently the statement Starkles got from the devs is, and I quote: "Jaal should turn down Scott." The datamine basically just miraculously exposed a programming oversight. Congratulations, we baited ourselves for...a while now I guess?
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Post by conanzms on Mar 21, 2017 1:20:08 GMT
This Starkey guy is making some weird-ass tweets: [snippy snip] Not to rag on him too much, but gurl, what is going on in here on this day? ok then, let's just get rid of all straight male romances and say there's a fuckload of straight ppl just bc there's straight women same thing right???Exactly, that convo was like: - Is Jaal Bi? - Yes, Gil is gay. like WTF??
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Post by conanzms on Mar 21, 2017 1:12:39 GMT
This Starkey guy is making some weird-ass tweets: Not to rag on him too much, but gurl, what is going on in here on this day? That my friend, is called shitposting.
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Post by conanzms on Mar 21, 2017 1:07:45 GMT
Possible explanation for the datamine then: The lack of genderlock with Jaal may have been a programming oversight. Jaal was meant to be locked out for Scott, but since somehow that code got missed, Jaal never turns down Scott, but the flirt option doesn't appear because the lines of dialog or code that would allow for flirting don't exist. Jaal was never MEANT to be bi in the first place? Let's just lie down and indoctrinate ourselves that Jaal was bi at some point because ME ppl are not that stupid right? (wink yes, bi bi bi bi bi.
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Post by conanzms on Mar 21, 2017 0:56:05 GMT
Sounds like he wasn't being honest about romancing him as a man. Wait, so his 'proof' is datamined codes??? LMAO he knows jack squad more than us!
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Post by conanzms on Mar 21, 2017 0:28:15 GMT
Oh this is weirdly entertaining, like watching a comical train wreck Anyway, didn't someone mentioned that their review board friend has to reconvene on Launch day for more reviewing? So is it possible that they added something as a hail mary?
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Post by conanzms on Mar 21, 2017 0:21:00 GMT
The thread right now:Y Yeah, more like dat 'stop' sign pretty much sums up my emotions right now.
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Post by conanzms on Mar 21, 2017 0:09:40 GMT
At this rate, I'm sure EA shipped out about 10 different versions of MEA Annnnnnnd MEA DIFF ROMANCE VERSION LOTTO!Grand Prize (1x): Everyone's Bi, Lexi included First Prize (5x): All squadmates are Bi Second Prize (25x): Jaal is Bi Last Prize (all the rest): See Prima Guide for more info.
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