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Post by colfoley on May 10, 2017 18:21:34 GMT
...so? Its a minor quest. Literally a fetch quest And bw was focusing on more important stuff first. They really didn't. The game still suffers from masses of micro-stuttering aboard the tempest and other areas of the game. Also, not a damn thing was changed in the Character Creator. The one thing Bioware needed to do in this patch was make the game run smoothly and they failed. Analysis is still on-going. I hope they fixed the random multiplayer crashes but i'm doubtful. Again what was this patch? A relatively major across the board sweep through a bunch of the minor issues in the game. They fixed a lot of the major problems I had with the game, from a bug standpoint, and the quality of life issues with the game is now greatly improved. But again since we know they are working on a third major patch is where we should see the harder to do nitty gritty changes.
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Post by Psychevore on May 10, 2017 18:25:49 GMT
Are you for real? It's not my job to retain customers for EA. It's also not my job to sympathise with people who've been explained a few times already what's going on but just keep complaining anyway and then throw a hissy fit and delete the game. Lol. Seriously, are you for real? Of course its not your job, I guess you kind of missed the point. You like the game, that is cool. That must mean you want to see another. Treat people who may not agree with you with some respect and they tend to not add another reason for never looking at another ME game. If you find it hard to be civil to people, who just might not see things the same way you do, try and think about what is in your best self interest. Pissing on someone who is already pissed off only insures the game has lost another buyer going forward, do that enough and there will NOT be another game for you to play. Besides being an asshole to people who disagrees with you only makes you an asshole. If that is what you aspire to be then you are doing a great job! Again... are you for real? Are you seriously hanging the future of Mass Effect on my responses on an unofficial forum? Damn, I am important.
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Post by DoctorFox on May 10, 2017 19:54:14 GMT
They really didn't. The game still suffers from masses of micro-stuttering aboard the tempest and other areas of the game. Also, not a damn thing was changed in the Character Creator. The one thing Bioware needed to do in this patch was make the game run smoothly and they failed. Analysis is still on-going. I hope they fixed the random multiplayer crashes but i'm doubtful. Again what was this patch? A relatively major across the board sweep through a bunch of the minor issues in the game. They fixed a lot of the major problems I had with the game, from a bug standpoint, and the quality of life issues with the game is now greatly improved. But again since we know they are working on a third major patch is where we should see the harder to do nitty gritty changes. One last chance huh. 2 strikes down, 1 to go. I hope for the fans sake and their career's that the next patch is a home run.
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Post by colfoley on May 10, 2017 19:59:44 GMT
Again what was this patch? A relatively major across the board sweep through a bunch of the minor issues in the game. They fixed a lot of the major problems I had with the game, from a bug standpoint, and the quality of life issues with the game is now greatly improved. But again since we know they are working on a third major patch is where we should see the harder to do nitty gritty changes. One last chance huh. 2 strikes down, 1 to go. I hope for the fans sake and their career's that the next patch is a home run. First patch was kind of a two strike panicked bloop single, this patch is more or less a double. I would expect the next patch to be a home run but honestly if most of the issues that they claim are fixed, are actually fixed, there isn't much more for them to do to make me a happy camper. Just fix RFS and maybe fix Movie Night if its still bugged but then I have not had any bugs with movie night on my first PT and as far as the special items...they've said they've fixed it.
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Post by chawktrick on May 10, 2017 20:14:24 GMT
That's true, and it's possible they're investigating why the quest bug continues. But, for the people who have the quest bug, I can completely understand why seeing 'deluxe edition players now have a new casual Ryder outfit' might grind their gears a bit. I don't understand why, but maybe that is because I know people who are fixing the bugs wouldn't be the ones designing a new outfit for they require different skills and knowledge to complete. I wager most people understand that, as well. It's more about the perception as a consumer (which, admittedly, isn't always on par with reality). But, if a player is going for full completion and can't because of a bug, while at the same time the company is releasing some window dressing upgrades, the bug-impacted players are going to perceive that differently than those who aren't experiencing issues. That doesn't make anybody in the situation wrong. It's about priorities for the individual player. Battlefront fell victim to some of this. The devs kept powering out some game fixes, balancing issues and cosmetic updates, but delayed (for months on end) changes to Falcon ramming and A-Wing dominance. Those were certainly complex issues, but it's easy to see why people who played a lot of squadron might be frustrated by the lack of changes. It's the same thing here - if what you want to see fixed isn't fix... that can be frustrating. All I'm saying is I understand that.
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Post by joglee on May 10, 2017 20:31:46 GMT
Just a fyi for you non developer gamers.
Had they made the movie night drink retroactively removed from the inventory of those already in the middle of a NG+ there is a highly likely chance it would have broken your save.
Just let that sink in when you cry that you may have to start over on NG+.
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Post by dm04 on May 10, 2017 23:14:25 GMT
What you sarcastic fanboys/shills don't seem to understand is the more people like him that walk away form the series, Bioware and EA, the fewer people there are going to be that will buy the next ME game. EA does NOT make games that do not make money, which means the more people like him there are the less likely there will be another game. Go ahead keep flaming people who have problems with this game, giving them even more reason to leave and NEVER come back. I am sure EA thanks you Are you for real? It's not my job to retain customers for EA. It's also not my job to sympathise with people who've been explained a few times already what's going on but just keep complaining anyway and then throw a hissy fit and delete the game. Lol. Seriously, are you for real? Nope it is not, it is also not your job to be unfriendly to people just because they have a different opinion. I call this bad education, wonder who failed here, your partents, your teachers or your peers. I am not asking you for sharing his opinion. I am not asking you to babysit him, hold his hand and talk him into "staying". But I am asking you for more understanding of the situation. Fixing bugs is not an easy task (especialy finding the source for a bug), but at least they could have said something. Instead ober 1month silence and when the patch is finaly there, it is even less then 1.05 and no words to it.
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on May 11, 2017 2:24:25 GMT
While I agree to an extent, I just read through the most recent patch notes and there are some updates I would definitely consider less relevant than fixing a quest bug, regardless of it being a side quest or not. The problem is that some of those fixes are probably important to the people they are relevant too over the quest problems. The other thing is we don't really know how "simple" the quest fixes are especially since I think a lot of them don't always happen.And that's Frostbite for you... You can correct one problem in one specific area, but the dependencies (am I using the right term?) still have to be addressed otherwise it carries over and can create a new problem. Also, different platforms require fine-tuning and that's something that Bioware is still struggling to deal with, but this is only attempt #2 on Frostbite.
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Post by Sanunes on May 11, 2017 2:29:07 GMT
The problem is that some of those fixes are probably important to the people they are relevant too over the quest problems. The other thing is we don't really know how "simple" the quest fixes are especially since I think a lot of them don't always happen.And that's Frostbite for you... You can correct one problem in one specific area, but the dependencies (am I using the right term?) still have to be addressed otherwise it carries over and can create a new problem. Also, different platforms require fine-tuning and that's something that Bioware is still struggling to deal with, but this is only attempt #2 on Frostbite. Which is true, but it was also a problem BioWare had with the Unreal Engine as well. At least that was something they said when discussing the spot on the bridge of the Normandy where you would get stuck. Not sure if it is related completely, but that was something that was mentioned to why it wasn't fixed.
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Post by docklenator on May 11, 2017 3:24:10 GMT
So people think they can throw a hissy fit and companies have to tailor their alterations to the most pissy complaints? Someone already demanding to speak to a manager?
The sales were made. Game wasn't groundbreaking but it hasn't failed. Second patch since release and the first to feature extra content for the people who shelled out extra. I didn't buy up, but I'm glad to see they have the integrity to prioritize the deluxe buyers. As for the bugs, there will ALWAYS be bugs. This was an ambitious title and their largest to date. Anyone who demands perfection at this point is just ignorant. All I've seen are petty complaints so far, nothing game breaking. Grow the fuck up people, seriously.
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Post by projectpatdc on May 11, 2017 6:12:21 GMT
It has been fixed. Only not in old NG+ games. You have a really tough time wrapping your head around this, don't you? Yeah, cause i will be not wasting my time again to replay NG+. But i just make my life easier. Deleted. I'm done with MEA. Last thing i bought from those funny folkes. Have fun boys and girls. Calm your tits. Take a break until after the next patch in June. Then fire up a fresh new game plus. Don't bog yourself down with every mundane quest and task. Just play through it naturally sometimes even turning some people down because you don't have time. Any quests left over when you beat the game just serves as post game content
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Post by KaiserShep on May 11, 2017 6:20:14 GMT
Just a fyi for you non developer gamers. Had they made the movie night drink retroactively removed from the inventory of those already in the middle of a NG+ there is a highly likely chance it would have broken your save. Just let that sink in when you cry that you may have to start over on NG+. No….NOOOOOOOOOO!!
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Post by chawktrick on May 11, 2017 17:03:18 GMT
Anyone who demands perfection at this point is just ignorant. All I've seen are petty complaints so far, nothing game breaking. Grow the fuck up people, seriously. I haven't seen a single person demand perfection from this game, and if they are, it's a significant minority. You're creating a straw man. I've seen several well-reasoned critiques of this game and people requesting fixes to issues that damage their user experience, and many of those people are being mature about their comments.
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Post by docklenator on May 11, 2017 17:45:03 GMT
I've seen far more threads bashing bioware and Andromeda than level headed and mature critiques. Every game has issues, and Adromeda while being plagued as one of them is far from the worst. When I see people reaching for reasons to hate the game and developer over a recent patch (which fixed several balancing issues but didn't repair an odd bug on a throw away quest that not everyone encounters) I'll stand by my statement. I'll further it by adding that the majority of people complaining about the game are simply bitching, and would bitch about nearly anything just for the opportunity to bitch.
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