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Post by abaris on May 16, 2017 13:21:25 GMT
Make both sara and Scott customizable so we can fix their wonky eyes. Or the nose for that matter. |
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Post by Evanoel on May 16, 2017 14:36:46 GMT
Am I the only one who thinks that his "ugly teenager" beard is kinda hot?  But I do agree that it should be customizable just like Hawke in DA:I. Personally, I think he's fine the way he looks now.  |
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2017 14:44:33 GMT
Make both sara and Scott customizable so we can fix their wonky eyes. Or the nose for that matter. I haven't noticed ... I'm more of an eyes person.. it's the first thing that caught my attention. |
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Post by alanc9 on May 16, 2017 15:00:44 GMT
Make both sara and Scott customizable so we can fix their wonky eyes. Or the nose for that matter. Changing the facial geometry is conceptually impossible if the default heads work the way I think they do. |
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Post by kheld on May 17, 2017 8:24:30 GMT
I just wish we could remove make-up they gave default Sara with new patch... She looks like she has psiorosis now. |
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Post by abaris on May 17, 2017 9:15:57 GMT
Or the nose for that matter. I haven't noticed ... I'm more of an eyes person.. it's the first thing that caught my attention. Well, I'm reminded of Cyrano de Bergerac. |
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Post by zarrokhai on May 17, 2017 13:08:20 GMT
With how limited the CC is, I dont understand why they didnt just make the defaults customizable as well. There was no actual reason not to.
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Post by kumasan on May 17, 2017 22:00:28 GMT
If I remember correctly, Hawke was customizable in Dragon Age 2. And we saw "bearded DefaultHawke" in trailers, even in the cinematic one.
At least, let us make minor changes like removing facial hair, changing hair/eye color...
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Post by alanc9 on May 17, 2017 23:54:27 GMT
With how limited the CC is, I dont understand why they didnt just make the defaults customizable as well. There was no actual reason not to. You haven't thought this through. Heads that weren't built with a limited CC can't be modified with that CC. The slider settings aren't meaningful for a scanned head. |
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Post by Element Zero on May 18, 2017 0:32:30 GMT
Well I created a twitter account and asked Ian Frazier and Mike Gamble about this and Cora's shotgun. I really hope they'll listen and add this two little features.  I'm more intrigued by the idea of the shotgun, to be honest. It likely wouldn't be as great as the Piranha, but it's so nice-looking. Scott's beard is like that because it's his model's beard:  Brewis' stubble is better than Scott's sad, patchy thing. I often keep stubble, whenever acceptable, because I've grown to hate shaving. My stubble doesn't look like I'm in Middle School, though. I suspect that they got halfway through the creation of Scott's beard and gave up. The hairs look very real; but there should be about 3 times as many of them.  |
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Post by projectpatdc on May 18, 2017 2:32:25 GMT
Well I created a twitter account and asked Ian Frazier and Mike Gamble about this and Cora's shotgun. I really hope they'll listen and add this two little features. I'm more intrigued by the idea of the shotgun, to be honest. It likely wouldn't be as great as the Piranha, but it's so nice-looking. Scott's beard is like that because it's his model's beard: Brewis' stubble is better than Scott's sad, patchy thing. I often keep stubble, whenever acceptable, because I've grown to hate shaving. My stubble doesn't look like I'm in Middle School, though. I suspect that they got halfway through the creation of Scott's beard and gave up. The hairs look very real; but there should be about 3 times as many of them. Ha my stumble looks like that besides being in my late 20s. I also have a similar facial structure and long torso/short legs so every time someone made fun of Scott, I was always like hey now. He's not that bad |
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on May 18, 2017 2:37:05 GMT
The CC is getting updated, that's good, but let us customize DefaultRyder! Honestly, it shouldn't be hard to do. Because I just hate Scott crappy ugly teenager beard! I NEED to remove it! It is the first time in a game that I toggle "always show helmet". Please Bioware! I understand the desire... I even modded DA2 so I could mod Hawke's beard away. But Bioware has a very solid history of not allowing us to alter the default appearances. I remember reading somewhere a long time ago it had something to do with licensing - especially if the default is based off of a real person. But who knows how true that is. |
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Post by turianlannister on May 18, 2017 2:39:03 GMT
With how limited the CC is, I dont understand why they didnt just make the defaults customizable as well. There was no actual reason not to. You haven't thought this through. Heads that weren't built with a limited CC can't be modified with that CC. The slider settings aren't meaningful for a scanned head. The presets are based on scanned heads too though |
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Post by decafhigh on May 18, 2017 3:12:41 GMT
You haven't thought this through. Heads that weren't built with a limited CC can't be modified with that CC. The slider settings aren't meaningful for a scanned head. The presets are based on scanned heads too though As far as I know, yeah. I don't believe the issues are technical. Whatever the issue is, if the current CC is representative of the limitations we get using scanned heads I'd rather they don't use scanned heads at all. Not worth the trade off for whatever the supposed benefit is. Not that I can think of any actual benefit to doing it this way to begin with. |
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Post by Element Zero on May 18, 2017 13:07:10 GMT
I'm more intrigued by the idea of the shotgun, to be honest. It likely wouldn't be as great as the Piranha, but it's so nice-looking. Brewis' stubble is better than Scott's sad, patchy thing. I often keep stubble, whenever acceptable, because I've grown to hate shaving. My stubble doesn't look like I'm in Middle School, though. I suspect that they got halfway through the creation of Scott's beard and gave up. The hairs look very real; but there should be about 3 times as many of them. Ha my stumble looks like that besides being in my late 20s. I also have a similar facial structure and long torso/short legs so every time someone made fun of Scott, I was always like hey now. He's not that bad Agreed. It's hyperbole, for sure. No sooner than I posted this, I logged back on and played some more. I thought, "It's not as bad as my imagination, or faulty memory, make it." I'd shave, if I were Scott; but that's entirely a personal preference. They likely thought that it gave him a slightly more grown-up look. |
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Post by alanc9 on May 18, 2017 15:50:10 GMT
I was being sloppy above. Yeah, all the heads are scanned. The problem is that the CC heads have had a bunch more work done for them -- alternative elements, coding to link the CC with the model, etc. All doable, sure, but this is a fairly major feature request, rather than just unchecking a box someplace.
I'm with decafhigh; I don't think this was a great way to approach building a CC in the first place.
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Post by decafhigh on May 18, 2017 16:43:23 GMT
I was being sloppy above. Yeah, all the heads are scanned. The problem is that the CC heads have had a bunch more work done for them -- alternative elements, coding to link the CC with the model, etc. All doable, sure, but this is a fairly major feature request, rather than just unchecking a box someplace. I'm with decafhigh; I don't think this was a great way to approach building a CC in the first place. I have no idea how hard or easy it would be. I'm sure, as you said, its not as simple as just unchecking a box. Faceman is probably on the right track, it likely is a contractual issue with the models in how they use the likeness or something. Still seems kinda silly to me, but that's why I'm not a lawyer I guess.  Though I would think Jayde would be happy to have that game model customized.  |
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Post by kumasan on May 18, 2017 16:59:34 GMT
I'm thinking about something. Would it be possible to recreate Default Scott with the CC?
I saw some recreations of Sara, but nothing for her brother.
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Post by KaiserShep on May 18, 2017 22:48:41 GMT
I'm thinking about something. Would it be possible to recreate Default Scott with the CC? I saw some recreations of Sara, but nothing for her brother. The closest you'll ever get is tweaking preset# 3. He's probably my favorite preset on the male side. I settled with him in the end. I actually like what I can get out of him a great deal more than default Scott. |
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2017 22:57:01 GMT
The closest you'll ever get is tweaking preset# 3. He's probably my favorite preset on the male side. I settled with him in the end. I actually like what I can get out of him a great deal more than default Scott. I would say preset 2 is closer to default MRyder than 3, I like preset the better, too, less blocky head, higher eyes and a straighter nose. |
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Post by KaiserShep on May 18, 2017 23:15:20 GMT
It was the eyebrows that really made the difference in my comparison.
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Post by bshep on May 18, 2017 23:29:51 GMT
I get the feeling there is some contractual clause that won't allow the actors face to be modded in CC. Same thing happened in the old trilogy with Shepard's face (Mark Vanderloo).
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Post by moderately incensed firmicute on May 18, 2017 23:40:15 GMT
Given that Sheploo was unchangable I doubt they'll do it, and it could be that they can't make them customisable without a fair bit of work. Plus they'll want to keep the defaults pure and unchanged so they're 'iconic'. <---- trying not to pmsl as I type that ut they use those presets a bit modified for npcs.. like for example that scavenger guy you meet see on eos sie 1:promise after restarting the generators.. he has her face. really. Im not joking. oh and the first 2 NPCS that look like sara and scott you have when you use the tram on the hyperion the first time in the whole game. so yeah,scavenger boy uses sarahs face-texture... his lips are fucked, almost as ugly as scott's btw.. scotts lips now look like he uses weird flesh colored lip liner.. the only flesh colored thing my scott should take in his mouth is reyes dick. |
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2017 23:46:58 GMT
Customize ryders body ? It's something ME hasn't done yet.
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Post by zipzap2000 on May 19, 2017 1:08:45 GMT
i bet you could make some nice characters with the default sara face . I'd bet I could mold her into Sandra Bullock's look in Gravity if I was able to mold that face. Now, we're talking. |
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