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Post by linksocarina on May 21, 2017 16:42:18 GMT
My secret wish is they pull a Star Wars: The Old Republic and have you recruit the entire cast in some form...
What I mean is, all of the recruitable characters in the stories on the MMO have been major and minor players in the DLC in many forms. It has been...interesting to see really.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2017 23:58:36 GMT
Most of the characters I would love to see again are in Kirkwall, so a quick stop there would scratch that itch. I'm pretty sure we will be seeing Dorian in Tevinter. Now that I think about it, I kind of want to see everyone...I must be getting soft in my old age. ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/6576594/images/CeRUIfXurYhaBmWjMBkt.png)
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Post by Exile Isan on May 23, 2017 0:46:58 GMT
I really don't care if we see any of the old characters again, except Solas and Dorian. Because Solas has been set up to be our villain, and if we are going to Tevinter (as Trespasser implies), Dorian is the only companion that makes sense.
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Post by raikas on May 23, 2017 14:06:43 GMT
I hope for as few cameos as possible. They way they're usually implemented, they tend to play to the player versus the player-character, and I'd rather avoid that if possible.
Plus it's a new game (assuming it's not a direct sequel, which I know some people are hoping for but which probably isn't likely) so I'd like to spend it meeting new characters.
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Post by Iddy on May 23, 2017 15:28:59 GMT
I just wonder what he'll do next, since his prophecy is finally gonna come true with Solas' shenanigans. Just imagine if the real final battle of the next game will be between Sandal and Solas. Sandal was never meant to be anything more than a Vendor by the writers. Then because he was put in DAO as the final vendor right before to fight the final boss,people begun to specualte about what his true identity was,but the point was that he wasn't anything more than a plot device for developers used to sell items. Now for some reason they made him into " something more" in DAII but also didn't cared to put him in DAI despite them saying in DAII that Celine wanted them for a job,which mean that they don't care to resue the character or they were waiting DA4 to resue him. Not really. When you meet Sandal before the final battle against the archdemon, there are countless dead darkspawn around him. He was always meant to be something more.
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Post by cobalt72 on May 23, 2017 16:54:53 GMT
Other than plot relevant past characters I don't see why Bioware would even want to bring back too many/more than a few past characters. People cry too much.
- If the main character is someone new, people will cry that these past characters have to be "introduced" to them again. - People will cry if the character looks different from what they thought he/she should've looked like. I remember people crying how Alistair looked like in Inquisition. - People will cry if someone they didn't want back is brought back, and someone they wanted back wasn't.
So it just isn't worth it for them. Bring back only the ones that are necessary. Everyone else will just bring heartache and tears.
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Post by eriador117 on May 24, 2017 10:13:52 GMT
I'd like to see Fenris and Dorian again but I think Fenris is probably unlikely. Maybe Feynriel if your world state has him in Tevinter? But since in some world states Fenris and Feynriel are dead, unlikely. I'd like to see Sigrun again too, but I can't really think of a reason she might be there. We'll probably see Solas again, or he could be the person behind the next game's big bad and so doesn't actually appear in the game itself. Going by the end of Trespasser I think it could be likely that we'll see either Scout Harding or Charter as new companions and I m really hoping for Mae as a companion or advisor too ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/6576594/images/KGsHESiZGZU0pPuHuhQr.png)
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Post by shechinah on May 24, 2017 10:49:20 GMT
Other than plot relevant past characters I don't see why Bioware would even want to bring back too many/more than a few past characters. People cry too much. - If the main character is someone new, people will cry that these past characters have to be "introduced" to them again. - People will cry if the character looks different from what they thought he/she should've looked like. I remember people crying how Alistair looked like in Inquisition. - People will cry if someone they didn't want back is brought back, and someone they wanted back wasn't. So it just isn't worth it for them. Bring back only the ones that are necessary. Everyone else will just bring heartache and tears. I agree. I'd rather they only bring back plot relevant characters instead of trying to fit other characters in to be fair or as fanservice. This includes romanceable characters even if the Inquisitor returns as a dual protagonist or in a supporting role. Example: I see reason for Dorian to be back and he seems set-up for this not just because of Trespasser but because he always intended to return to Tevinter. I also see reason for Sten to be back given that he always returns to the Qun. Example: I don't see sufficient reason for characters like Alistair, Sera, Fenris and such to go to Tevinter and cameo. The exception for Fenris being if he was enslaved again in Dragon Age II. There are going to be people unhappy with this but that'll be the case no matter what Bioware do and I honestly think this is the best way to handle cameos especially as far away as Tevinter where it really doesn't make sense for so many of the old characters to show up.
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Post by Blaze on May 25, 2017 7:50:45 GMT
i can imagine fenris in tevinter since he either would be freeing slaves or back to his master's grasp. can't see reason for merrill, sera or zevran to be in tevinter since they risk ending up as slaves.
i'd say this though, fenris and dorian would be hilerious togather, so hopefully a cameo of both in the same room =D
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Post by shechinah on May 25, 2017 9:28:47 GMT
i can imagine fenris in tevinter since he either would be freeing slaves or back to his master's grasp. can't see reason for merrill, sera or zevran to be in tevinter since they risk ending up as slaves. I don't see it as making sense that he'd return to Tevinter becsause of how he's started over with his life and what he thinks of the place. He would be very recognizable in Tevinter due to his markings so he wouldn't be able to lay low. It's one thing to do so in Kirkwall but another to do so in a country that specializes in magic and slavery and where there'd be people who know who he is, what he's done, what he can do and what he's worth. I can see him hunting slavers and freeing slaves but that it'd be more like Inquisition where he's hunting slavers that come outside the Tevinter Imperium to prey on people. That's how I see it, at least.
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Post by Blaze on May 25, 2017 11:07:59 GMT
i can imagine fenris in tevinter since he either would be freeing slaves or back to his master's grasp. can't see reason for merrill, sera or zevran to be in tevinter since they risk ending up as slaves. I don't see it as making sense that he'd return to Tevinter becsause of how he's started over with his life and what he thinks of the place. He would be very recognizable in Tevinter due to his markings so he wouldn't be able to lay low. It's one thing to do so in Kirkwall but another to do so in a country that specializes in magic and slavery and where there'd be people who know who he is, what he's done, what he can do and what he's worth. I can see him hunting slavers and freeing slaves but that it'd be more like Inquisition where he's hunting slavers that come outside the Tevinter Imperium to prey on people. That's how I see it, at least. varric said that fenris was hunting down tevinter slavers that come to the south so he doing that for sure. i gess he might not return, but cameo where he only appears if he was returned to danarius is good as well =D
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Post by shechinah on May 25, 2017 11:13:38 GMT
varric said that fenris was hunting down tevinter slavers that come to the south so he doing that for sure. i gess he might not return, but cameo where he only appears if he was returned to danarius is good as well =D That I do think is a possibility. I'd honestly be a bit surprised if there's not at least a mention of him if we go the Tevinter Imperium.
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Post by Blaze on May 25, 2017 11:24:27 GMT
varric said that fenris was hunting down tevinter slavers that come to the south so he doing that for sure. i gess he might not return, but cameo where he only appears if he was returned to danarius is good as well =D That I do think is a possibility. I'd honestly be a bit surprised if there's not at least a mention of him if we go the Tevinter Imperium. well big country, but if the chance present itself no reason for bioware to ignore it *nods*
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Post by Max Deltree on May 25, 2017 18:56:34 GMT
I like cameos. I don't think they are a must-have, but they help to make the world seem the same. People travel, after all!
And heck, people trash Dragon Age and praise Witcher 3, but Witcher 3 has all characters from previous games showing up again at least in a large quest.
I think some cameos are necessary. It doesn't make sense to take lands from Ferelden and not have it's king show up. There are characters who have their own agenda, and it will take them to other lands.
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Post by lucidae on May 27, 2017 6:39:52 GMT
I really want to see Fenris again because I have a hard time imagining DA4 without a side quest about him kicking magister ass. :] I know he can be dead in other people's playthroughs... But the guy has a bunch of lyrium ingrained into his body! If Leliana can come back from having her head chopped off via a lyrium body... I don't see how Fenris couldn't survive too. I believe he has true vallaslin and that they have more power than we or he realize.
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Post by akiza on Jun 5, 2017 9:07:10 GMT
And heck, people trash Dragon Age and praise Witcher 3, but Witcher 3 has all characters from previous games showing up again at least in a large quest. The Witcher series has the same protagonist so it makes more sense for previous characters to show up there.
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Post by riverdaleswhiteflash on Jun 5, 2017 10:22:21 GMT
I really want to see Fenris again because I have a hard time imagining DA4 without a side quest about him kicking magister ass. :] I know he can be dead in other people's playthroughs... But the guy has a bunch of lyrium ingrained into his body! If Leliana can come back from having her head chopped off via a lyrium body... I don't see how Fenris couldn't survive too. I believe he has true vallaslin and that they have more power than we or he realize. Leiliana was next to a large vein, which seemed to be having marked effects on the Temple. Given what we know about the origins of lyrium now Leiliana might even have died right above a Titan, which can choose how to use its power. Either way, there's a lot more room for the large amount of lyrium in the temple to have this effect than the small amount of lyrium Fenris has.
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Post by Harpie Lady on Jun 7, 2017 15:34:14 GMT
I really want to see Fenris again because I have a hard time imagining DA4 without a side quest about him kicking magister ass. :] I know he can be dead in other people's playthroughs... But the guy has a bunch of lyrium ingrained into his body! If Leliana can come back from having her head chopped off via a lyrium body... I don't see how Fenris couldn't survive too. I believe he has true vallaslin and that they have more power than we or he realize. Leiliana was next to a large vein, which seemed to be having marked effects on the Temple. Given what we know about the origins of lyrium now Leiliana might even have died right above a Titan, which can choose how to use its power. Either way, there's a lot more room for the large amount of lyrium in the temple to have this effect than the small amount of lyrium Fenris has. I see the event more as a proof that DA writers didn't really planned DAI when DAO was made. If they had they could have simply forced Leliana to go away angrily to justify her survival rather than create this sort of spiritual doppelganger which was Weekes way to resolve Gaider's own illogical writing.
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Post by riverdaleswhiteflash on Jun 8, 2017 4:49:45 GMT
Leiliana was next to a large vein, which seemed to be having marked effects on the Temple. Given what we know about the origins of lyrium now Leiliana might even have died right above a Titan, which can choose how to use its power. Either way, there's a lot more room for the large amount of lyrium in the temple to have this effect than the small amount of lyrium Fenris has. I see the event more as a proof that DA writers didn't really planned DAI when DAO was made. If they had they could have simply forced Leliana to go away angrily to justify her survival rather than create this sort of spiritual doppelganger which was Weekes way to resolve Gaider's own illogical writing. Well, you're probably right about why this was written. But if we're going to try and make sense of it, I think what I said is relevant.
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Post by Catilina on Jun 8, 2017 10:16:12 GMT
Dorian, Solas, Sten, Bodahn 'n' Sandal. Personally, I would like to see Feynriel (he would be interesting, sadly, possible tranquil), and Shale.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2017 11:57:53 GMT
Dorian, Solas, Sten, Bodahn 'n' Sandal. Personally, I would like to see Feynriel (he's would be interesting, sadly, possible tranquil), and Shale. *Arishok
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Post by themikefest on Jun 8, 2017 12:03:44 GMT
Lloyd. He decided to sell his tavern in Redcliffe to open one in Tevinter. He will be telling customers the tale of how he fought off the undead by himself in Redcliffe so many years ago.
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Post by Sifr on Jun 8, 2017 14:56:24 GMT
As a nice continuity nod, what if we ran across Valora (from the City Elf Origin) as a slave in Tevinter?
She's said to have been taken into "quarantine" several weeks prior to the Warden bringing down Caladrius' slaver operation. As no-one has seen her since, the implication is that she had been shipped off to Tevinter.
According to the (admittedly semi-canon) epilogues of DAO, Soris is said to have potentially ended up marrying a human woman. That Valora is not mentioned at all, makes it seem like she's no longer considered his "wife"... if they even did get married in the first place?
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Post by shechinah on Jun 8, 2017 15:26:38 GMT
As a nice continuity nod, what if we ran across Valora (from the City Elf Origin) as a slave in Tevinter? She's said to have been taken into "quarantine" several weeks prior to the Warden bringing down Caladrius' slaver operation. As no-one has seen her since, the implication is that she had been shipped off to Tevinter. According to the (admittedly semi-canon) epilogues of DAO, Soris is said to have potentially ended up marrying a human woman. That Valora is not mentioned at all, makes it seem like she's no longer considered his "wife"... if they even did get married in the first place? I have more than once seen, here and elsewhere, people mention that they think it could be neat to see some of the elves that were taken from the Denerim alienage even if it is just a cameo or a mention. I think it could be neat as well. A few have even mentioned that this could be the elven background for the protagonist. Given that elves taken were of different ages, this could be a possibility and I think it could be neat as well. Granted, I would prefer a protagonist native to Tevinter. I don't think Soris and Valora were married. Mind you, I have no confirmation of this but given the events that transpired and how potentially traumatising it was for Valora, I doubt there was any mood for wedding. There was also the unrest that occurred afterwards and then the "outbreak". I don't think there'd have been time for anything to settle to conduct a marriage even if the mood had been right for one.
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Post by midnight tea on Jun 18, 2017 14:40:41 GMT
Which cameos would you like to see, and which characters do you think would make the most sense in the setting? There are a few obvious characters like Solas that will show up, but I think we'll be seeing even more elves (as well as mages) of the series reappear in Tevinter. Just imagine Zevran, Merill, Fenris and Sera in the same room. Dorian is a Magister, and will most likely be the bridge between Tevinter and the Inquisition. Maybe Anders (assuming he's alive of course) made his way to Tevinter after being rejected by the rebel mages. Which characters would you like to see the most in the next Dragon Age? It's hard to say. I expect some characters from past titles will show up in the next game for more than a cameo - IMO, Dorian and Solas are pretty much guaranteed to be there, while others have a fairly high chance to play some sort of significant role somewhere along the way, like Morrigan, Cassandra, Harding, Varric, Cole, Calpernia and Sten. Possibly Leliana. Still, all of it depends on many different factors. I personally like 'a cast of thousands' stories, where many characters are frequently inter-connected in different ways throughout the unfolding narrative... but not only I don't necessarily require for it to happen at all times, or for no good reason, I realize that some characters will be way harder to bring in game with multiple world-states that deals with things like word budgets or... well... budgets. I mean... even if some characters can't die, the story may just move away too far from where they were last in it, be it in terms of physical spot or circumstances. And while we have some hints as to where the story is going, there's really no way of telling if much what we guess is even remotely close to what we'll see in next game. Take the move to Tevinter, for example - at this point it seems almost guaranteed. But the cameos will depend heavily on who we'd play as PC or what role we'll be put in. If it's close to 'clean slate' thing, where we play a PC that isn't really connected to events or characters from past games then cameos may be tricky, because the narrative would probably struggle explaining how come we meet all those people in a place most Southerners were mostly avoiding till that point, that is additionally suffering through possible political upheaval and imminent Qunari invasion. On the other hand, if our PC is recruited by Inquisition or is with Inquisition from the start, then IMO chances of cameos rise exponentially. Even if disbanded, Inquisition is still working from shadows in order to save the world (again) and would likely recruit or request help from past characters, given that many have proven to be reliable allies, and both Leliana and Varric have ways to reach a good number of them. I guess some of it also depends on eluvian network and how heavily it'll be utilized. I personally think we'll see a lot of it, but then again, it depends which places it goes to - if they're hidden, hard-to-reach spots on maps, then we'd likely not meet many old DA pals along the way. If some eluvians open in more reachable spots, then chances are higher; we could use an eluvian that gets us close to Merril's clan or other characters that, for some reason, were travelling close to one.
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