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Post by Reorte on May 20, 2017 20:20:27 GMT
If the Geth snuck aboard there'd be no communications from the Quarians...or the Geth wouldn't be the cause of the troubles. First off, you would have a hostile entity aboard that needed no rest and 600 years to figure out how to compromise the systems on the Ark. How could they possibly fail to completely subdue all of the sleepers? The Geth would be in complete control of the Ark, including when/if anyone woke. And even if these were the kinder, gentler, Geth from ME3, they could simply keep everyone else asleep, land/debark on a location of their choosing, and finally set to ark to get a clear distance away and then start taking folks out of cryo. I highly doubt it's the Geth. You're assuming it won't be another not at all thought out situation.
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Post by havard on May 20, 2017 20:21:32 GMT
If the Geth snuck aboard there'd be no communications from the Quarians...or the Geth wouldn't be the cause of the troubles. First off, you would have a hostile entity aboard that needed no rest and 600 years to figure out how to compromise the systems on the Ark. How could they possibly fail to completely subdue all of the sleepers? The Geth would be in complete control of the Ark, including when/if anyone woke. And even if these were the kinder, gentler, Geth from ME3, they could simply keep everyone else asleep, land/debark on a location of their choosing, and finally set to ark to get a clear distance away and then start taking folks out of cryo. I highly doubt it's the Geth. You're assuming it won't be another not at all thought out situation. Well...true enough. I guess what I really mean is that it would be exceptionally lazy writing.
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Post by dmc1001 on May 20, 2017 20:24:01 GMT
If the geth were the problem, why would the quarians tell them to stay away? The geth are more or less a known quantity. Now, if it were something stranger and more terrifying, then I could understand the warning. Geth being the problem just doesn't hold up for me.
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Post by RageUnderFire on May 20, 2017 20:28:46 GMT
If the geth were the problem, why would the quarians tell them to stay away? The geth are more or less a known quantity. Now, if it were something stranger and more terrifying, then I could understand the warning. Geth being the problem just doesn't hold up for me. My thoughts exactly. Geth are so entrenched in the Quarian psyche that we would have heard about Geth if they was the issue
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Post by decafhigh on May 20, 2017 20:49:55 GMT
If the Geth snuck aboard there'd be no communications from the Quarians...or the Geth wouldn't be the cause of the troubles. First off, you would have a hostile entity aboard that needed no rest and 600 years to figure out how to compromise the systems on the Ark. How could they possibly fail to completely subdue all of the sleepers? The Geth would be in complete control of the Ark, including when/if anyone woke. And even if these were the kinder, gentler, Geth from ME3, they could simply keep everyone else asleep, land/debark on a location of their choosing, and finally set to ark to get a clear distance away and then start taking folks out of cryo. I highly doubt it's the Geth. Even in ME1 the only Geth that were outright malicious were those aligned with Sovereign. Sure their were others that were hostile if you got in their way when getting the geth data for Tali, but those were the only Geth we saw in ME1 not aligned with the Reapers. If the Geth stowed away on the Quarian Ark there isn't any reason they would try to subdue the sleepers or take over. This could also perhaps be another faction of Geth that reached a different consensus in favor of working with Organics, basically the opposite of the Heretics. I imagine once the Quarians started waking up and found Geth aboard it all turned into a huge misunderstanding, some small scale fighting and the Geth being locked in a portion of the Ark till Ryder shows up and solves the situation. Basically all just a big excuse to bring the Geth to Andromeda.
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Post by ArabianIGoggles on May 20, 2017 20:54:39 GMT
Doubt it's the Roekaar. Hell, one elcor could probably steam roll through their whole crew.
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Post by projectpatdc on May 20, 2017 20:57:48 GMT
Not the Roekaar but who is to say they aren't fighting a Angara. The Angara were artificially created by the Jardaan. What if not all Angara live in Heleus and have evolved to be welcoming
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Post by lynx7386 on May 20, 2017 21:03:04 GMT
What if their ark got caught by the black hole? Would account for the distortion and the risk in trying to come after them
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Post by RamShep on May 20, 2017 22:23:31 GMT
The thing that intrigues me about the Quarian ark is - why would they not ask for help? In fact, the Quarian Pathfinder specifically warned the other species to NOT come and help. If the problem was the Geth or the Roekaar or the Kett, why would they not ask the other species to come help them? The only thing that makes sense is if their problem is contagious (virus?) or any help will also doom the helpers (a trap). I suppose they could be stuck in the Scourge and don't want others to come because they would get stuck also? These are possible but still don't make much sense. If the problem is contagious, they could just warn the rescuers so that the rescuers don't come in contact. If it's a trap or the Scourge, they can warn the rescuers about the trap or the Scourge. I hope Bioware has a cool story to make sense of the Quarian ark - but I expect they'll come up with a reason that don't make any sense. Expect the worst and hope to be surprised, right?
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Post by liquidsnake on May 20, 2017 23:35:21 GMT
I have a suspicion that the Quarian Ark didn't make it to Heleus at all and instead dropped out somewhere else in Andromeda. That way if we get the story in a DLC for finding them, it will force us to find some way to leave Heleus. Obviously the Kett have some way of travelling between clusters since we know they aren't contained just to Heleus. Maybe we can either use Archon's ship or the Remnant ship. I think it would be very interesting to leave the cluster and be on our own for the DLC finding them somewhere else in the galaxy. It would be an interesting opportunity to have a brand new alien species as well.
However, I truly hope that a Reaper did NOT follow them through dark space and that's why they are warning people away..
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Post by Reorte on May 20, 2017 23:45:45 GMT
I have a suspicion that the Quarian Ark didn't make it to Heleus at all and instead dropped out somewhere else in Andromeda. That way if we get the story in a DLC for finding them, it will force us to find some way to leave Heleus. Obviously the Kett have some way of travelling between clusters since we know they aren't contained just to Heleus. Maybe we can either use Archon's ship or the Remnant ship. I think it would be very interesting to leave the cluster and be on our own for the DLC finding them somewhere else in the galaxy. It would be an interesting opportunity to have a brand new alien species as well. However, I truly hope that a Reaper did NOT follow them through dark space and that's why they are warning people away.. The Tempest uses the same sort of drive as the arks (IIRC), and they can obviously travel further than Heleus. It's just rather slower than using mass relays. If it involves a few weeks or even months Ryder could get there. I share your view about the Reapers. However Andromeda seems keen to put that behind ME (what mentions we got were probably the minimum necessary to account for them not being able to be in contact with the Milky Way).
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Post by zipzap2000 on May 21, 2017 2:33:30 GMT
My guesses: 1) they ran into whoever set off the Scourge. 2) Geth somehow snuck onboard. I hope more for the 1st than the 2nd. I hope it is the Geth.
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Post by zipzap2000 on May 21, 2017 2:41:02 GMT
If the geth were the problem, why would the quarians tell them to stay away? The geth are more or less a known quantity. Now, if it were something stranger and more terrifying, then I could understand the warning. Geth being the problem just doesn't hold up for me. My thoughts exactly. Geth are so entrenched in the Quarian psyche that we would have heard about Geth if they was the issue Geth are software. They could infect nearby ships and take control of your airlocks. Staying away from would trap them on the ship because they dont have physical bodies to inhabit they would be able to fly the shuttles and fighter ships though. It wouldn't be wise to approach them.
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Post by griffith82 on May 21, 2017 2:49:22 GMT
My thoughts exactly. Geth are so entrenched in the Quarian psyche that we would have heard about Geth if they was the issue Geth are software. They could infect nearby ships and take control of your airlocks. Staying away from would trap them on the ship because they dont have physical bodies to inhabit they would be able to fly the shuttles and fighter ships though. It wouldn't be wise to approach them. Or to use windows.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on May 21, 2017 2:54:59 GMT
I hope the Geth aren't the threat and if involved turn out to be allies. Now I can see them doing it where Ryder and Co think the Geth are involved since they think all Geth are like the Heretics but sometime in the DLC we encounter the Geth are learn they aren't the enemy and help us defeat the real enemy.
I also don't think the Geth should be stowaways on the quarian Ark. It'd be better if they built their own ship that came to Andromeda and they too got the signal and followed it thus getting involved.
For the actual enemy, I think a new race would be interesting. Bioware has a pattern of introducing a new race in the DLC cycle of each game(ME1=Batarians, ME2=Yahg, ME3=Leviathans) so it would fit the pattern.
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Post by rapscallioness on May 21, 2017 3:30:02 GMT
I hope it's not the Geth. Too OT. I don't want to rehash the Geth/Quarian conflict. If they do show up, I hope it's as potential allies.
But wasn't it Geth technology that enabled the AI to see into Andromeda in a way that was closer to real time than 2million years time? Suvi said something about it. The Geth had created some interstellar telescope. Were they looking specifically at Andromeda? Or just generally looking at the cosmos? I don;t remember. If they were looking specifically at Andromeda that would be interesting..
I don;t know how the Initiative got its hands on the tech.
If the Geth wanted to, I think they could get to Andromeda without resorting to stowing away.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on May 21, 2017 4:39:00 GMT
I hope it's not the Geth. Too OT. I don't want to rehash the Geth/Quarian conflict. If they do show up, I hope it's as potential allies. But wasn't it Geth technology that enabled the AI to see into Andromeda in a way that was closer to real time than 2million years time? Suvi said something about it. The Geth had created some interstellar telescope. Were they looking specifically at Andromeda? Or just generally looking at the cosmos? I don;t remember. If they were looking specifically at Andromeda that would be interesting.. I don;t know how the Initiative got its hands on the tech. If the Geth wanted to, I think they could get to Andromeda without resorting to stowing away. Yes, the Geth used three Mass Relays to make a FTL telescope that gave a relative real-time look at Andromeda, including the Heleus Cluster. I don't think it is specifically mentioned what the Geth were looking at, but there are a few guesses. The Initiative got that data because some quarians managed to get that data and gave it to the Initiative. Yeah, if we are capable of building ships capable of reaching Andromeda the Geth certainly are able to. They are more advanced than us and they don't have to worry about organic concerns for the voyage. Plus they wouldn't stow away because "Geth do not infiltrate".
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Post by Furisco on May 21, 2017 7:02:55 GMT
However, I truly hope that a Reaper did NOT follow them through dark space and that's why they are warning people away.. Even if i love the Reapers i don't wanna see that either. I really can't trust the writer to make it sound good and the Reaper not ending blowing up like a bitch without any major effort in the end.
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Post by zipzap2000 on May 21, 2017 8:55:28 GMT
Why would Reaper follow an Ark for 600 years without blowing it up the moment it came into range?
This us almost as bad as the Vetra is Sarens daughter theory.
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Post by Arcian on May 21, 2017 10:29:14 GMT
My guess, a certain biotic god got on board. Yeah, yeah, some of you might believe you saw him die in your playthrough. But can gods die?Kurt Russel can attest that gods can, in fact, die.
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on May 21, 2017 10:54:32 GMT
Interesting idea... though just somehow a bit... implausible.
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Post by helios969 on May 21, 2017 11:52:39 GMT
Lack of resources and manpower make Roekaar doubtful. I personally hope it's Kett and by the time we show up half the crew has been uplifted. I want Kettified Hanar, Elcor, Drell, and whatever else is on the Ark in addition to new Kett variants we've yet to see. As good as I think the combat system is enemy variation is seriously lacking. I intentionally do not save the Krogan so I have one more tough enemy to fight along the way.
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Post by wickedtruth on May 21, 2017 19:14:34 GMT
honestly given the way its worded i dont think its anything Kett or Rokkar related. It sounds more like they've put them selves in a quarantine to prevent something getting loose. what that something is though i couldn't guess.
and wasnt that fun trying to word with out spoilers but yeah thats my take on it.
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Post by Zarzunabas on May 21, 2017 19:30:50 GMT
It´s either:
A: Geth B: (Quarian)-Sam that was driven insane by datacorruption, software-tampering and/or WannaCry C: (Quarian)-Sam that was driven insane due to being hacked by the (heretic)-geth, in order to annihilate all meatbags or D: The Quarian ark ran out of coffee
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Post by LogicGunn on May 21, 2017 20:30:07 GMT
Well, you know those Quarians...they're resourceful. Maybe half way to Andromeda someone woke up to fix an error on the navigation array with some spare filtration system parts and they ended up in the Triangulum Galaxy. I hope the issue is much, MUCH bigger than the Roekar. Like...reaper invasion bigger.
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