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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on May 21, 2017 2:42:46 GMT
He can't hack SAM, he controls our sibling and through them utilizes SAM. Even then he has issues like our weakened sibling being able to do things the Archon doesn't want them to. They require technology just as much as we do. They need it for ships as well as things like creating power for themselves not to mention a means to grow their numbers through exaltation. Cut them off from that and the Kett are stranded where they are with little to no access to resources to put up a fight. Perfect targets in warfare. yes he can. the reason Ryder almost died is because he cut off sam from ryder. HE WENT TO SAM NODE TO DO THAT BEFORE GOING TO THE TWIN. And the issue of the twin is that he underestimated their control. And no they don't need tech as much as we do. they can space walk with out it. Calculate with out it. they just use it for transport, messaging, and combat. And even with the ship, for any one to hack them they need fight their way into them and get to a relay to do so. the ketts biggest weakness is the chain of command. cut that off and they fall apart. Severing a connection and hacking are not the same thing. If you unplug something from a computer, you did not hack the computer. They can't space walk without it. We literally are able to kill a bunch of Kett in a mission by sending them into space and it is commented they aren't able to walk around like we can because we have mag boots. And we can calculate without technology too. I would love to see these sources that say they don't need technology since so far the game says otherwise. You know how you can sever a chain of command? By compromising communications which is done through technology.
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Post by griffith82 on May 21, 2017 2:47:22 GMT
Legion kicks Archon's AZZ That would be a prize fight for the ages! *Anouncer Voice* "In this corner standing 7 feet tall is Legion a robot who will always get a consensus before kicking your Ass!" "And in the other corner standing.... *Legion interrupts* "We would like to start this battle before I must make a Jill Sandwich."
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Post by rapscallioness on May 21, 2017 3:05:23 GMT
Geth. All day long.
I'd...pay...to see that
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Post by dreman999 on May 21, 2017 3:12:53 GMT
yes he can. the reason Ryder almost died is because he cut off sam from ryder. HE WENT TO SAM NODE TO DO THAT BEFORE GOING TO THE TWIN. And the issue of the twin is that he underestimated their control. And no they don't need tech as much as we do. they can space walk with out it. Calculate with out it. they just use it for transport, messaging, and combat. And even with the ship, for any one to hack them they need fight their way into them and get to a relay to do so. the ketts biggest weakness is the chain of command. cut that off and they fall apart. Severing a connection and hacking are not the same thing. If you unplug something from a computer, you did not hack the computer. They can't space walk without it. We literally are able to kill a bunch of Kett in a mission by sending them into space and it is commented they aren't able to walk around like we can because we have mag boots. And we can calculate without technology too. I would love to see these sources that say they don't need technology since so far the game says otherwise. You know how you can sever a chain of command? By compromising communications which is done through technology. *looks at fire fights hack attempt. yes it is the same thing. And can't space walk with out it? did you not play Cora's loyalty mission? They can space walk with out it. And we did not kill them by sending them in space, we killed them by using a machine controlled singularity. and the geth can only compromise commend if they get on a kett ship.
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Post by varicite on May 21, 2017 3:19:10 GMT
I'm pretty sure that these are just the species that they have exalted in Andromeda. Basic mooks, Destined, Exalted, and Anointed are all just Angara. The dogs are... the same dogs that the Outlaws have, just genetically engineered. Fiends are just those big armored creatures running around on many planets. And of course, now they have Berserkers, which are just Krogan. We don't actually see much of what the real Kett Empire looks like; just the riffraff the Archon has found in Andromeda and twisted to his own purposes. They might have some super badass dudes back home, but all we see are the most recent examples. ie: scrubs. the dogs shoot acid and turn invisible. the Destined, Exalted, and Anointed are not former Angara. and even then have plasma based weapon with the Anointed tanking everything. the fiend are exalted and fallow what the kett tell them to do. the can get wild but the kett can tame them again. Ascendants are actual non-Heleus Kett, using implants to manipulate electromagnetic force. It's not plasma. And I specifically didn't mention them in my earlier post, as they aren't just riffraff the Archon picked up and turned into Kett. The wraiths do shoot acid and turn invisible; so what? Their journal entry literally says: "Wraiths show clear genetic similarity with other feral creatures sighted across the Heleus Cluster". They are just the dogs the Outlaws have, but they've been exalted and given those abilities. The cloaking likely comes from the same genetic wizardry that allows Destined to cloak themselves and others around them. Chosen and Anointed are most DEFINITELY former Angara. Their journal entries even explicitly state: "With a new understanding of kett exaltation, it is now apparent that Anointed are exalted angara, transformed into soldiers of the kett cause."The entry for Chosen says the exact same thing, word for word, except replace "Anointed" w/ "Chosen". Behemoths (I called them Berserkers by accident) are literally just Krogan, but w/out any real cognitive functions outside of a constant blood rage. Fiends are those big armored brutes that look... almost exactly like Fiends, but w/ slightly different faces. Destined may have come from outside the Heleus Cluster, which makes sense as the Archon's Sword is basically a super version of the Destined, and you'll note that Primus and the Archon don't look like ANY of the afore-mentioned Kett designations. So again, we don't know what the ACTUAL Kett are like. These are just scrubs that the Archon (who is clearly just a midboss in the Kett hierarchy) recruited here while trying to figure out Remnant technology. In other words, these are basically babies that we're fighting, aside from the named Kett, Ascendants, and Destined.
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Post by dreman999 on May 21, 2017 4:11:39 GMT
the dogs shoot acid and turn invisible. the Destined, Exalted, and Anointed are not former Angara. and even then have plasma based weapon with the Anointed tanking everything. the fiend are exalted and fallow what the kett tell them to do. the can get wild but the kett can tame them again. Ascendants are actual non-Heleus Kett, using implants to manipulate electromagnetic force. It's not plasma. And I specifically didn't mention them in my earlier post, as they aren't just riffraff the Archon picked up and turned into Kett. The wraiths do shoot acid and turn invisible; so what? Their journal entry literally says: "Wraiths show clear genetic similarity with other feral creatures sighted across the Heleus Cluster". They are just the dogs the Outlaws have, but they've been exalted and given those abilities. The cloaking likely comes from the same genetic wizardry that allows Destined to cloak themselves and others around them. Chosen and Anointed are most DEFINITELY former Angara. Their journal entries even explicitly state: "With a new understanding of kett exaltation, it is now apparent that Anointed are exalted angara, transformed into soldiers of the kett cause."The entry for Chosen says the exact same thing, word for word, except replace "Anointed" w/ "Chosen". Behemoths (I called them Berserkers by accident) are literally just Krogan, but w/out any real cognitive functions outside of a constant blood rage. Fiends are those big armored brutes that look... almost exactly like Fiends, but w/ slightly different faces. Destined may have come from outside the Heleus Cluster, which makes sense as the Archon's Sword is basically a super version of the Destined, and you'll note that Primus and the Archon don't look like ANY of the afore-mentioned Kett designations. So again, we don't know what the ACTUAL Kett are like. These are just scrubs that the Archon (who is clearly just a midboss in the Kett hierarchy) recruited here while trying to figure out Remnant technology. In other words, these are basically babies that we're fighting, aside from the named Kett, Ascendants, and Destined. again nothing they have done has really shown them to be srubs. their tech is anti shield. hell, the guns and weapons of the behemoths ,Ascendant and annotated eat shields. the fiend at moving tanks. say what you will but those thing seem to one shot near everything the meet over time. even everything from the milky way. you can technically say we don't no what the true/original kett look like but that not to say the kett we are facing now are push overs.
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Post by varicite on May 21, 2017 5:21:47 GMT
I'm saying the ones we face in ME:A are newcomers that they had to make do with, but there's probably a huge assortment of abilities we don't know about in their main force.
The most interesting abilities come from non-Heleus Kett, like the Ascendant.
If the Kett have exalted nearly as many species across the galaxy for as long as they say, just imagine what that's like compared to just the slim pickings they exalted in the Heleus Cluster.
I'd say they're probably scrubs compared to the Kett who are actively part of the kett war machine, instead of the few troops the Archon stranded out in Heleus for his derailed scouting mission.
Don't forget that it WAS just a scouting mission the Archon came to Heleus for...
He didn't bring a real force with him.
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Post by TheWhiteWolf on May 21, 2017 5:32:33 GMT
Geth Scanner/Hunter Mode/Stun lock.
Enough said.
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Post by dmc1001 on May 21, 2017 5:38:28 GMT
I choose option #3: Commander Shepard.
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Post by cheeseandonion on May 21, 2017 9:08:58 GMT
I think you guys are only considering the basic mooks. Don't forget the Kett also have Anointed, Exalted, Destined, annoying invisible dog-lizards, and giant rock monsters. Well Geth have Colossus, Hunters, Armchairs, Snipers, Juggernaughts, Primes, whatever the ones were that shot the flames. I definitely going with Geth. They also have ships that can't be destroyed by two biotics and a big blue bubble.
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Post by guanxi on May 21, 2017 9:10:35 GMT
I think you guys are only considering the basic mooks. Don't forget the Kett also have Anointed, Exalted, Destined, annoying invisible dog-lizards, and giant rock monsters. Well Geth have Colossus, Hunters, Armchairs, Snipers, Juggernaughts, Primes, whatever the ones were that shot the flames. I definitely going with Geth. Watch out for those Geth armchairs. Not comfy at all.
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