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Post by gethadept on May 25, 2017 18:27:07 GMT
Don`t get me wrong. I am not disagreeing with your opinion and feeling on camping. I am just saying I find camping enjoyable to certain extent. I cannot take zero farming more than two games a row myself.
I do disagree on the comment you said it`s not legitimate way to play though. I don`t think anyone can define what`s the legitimate way to play this game.
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Post by Terminator Force on May 25, 2017 19:17:38 GMT
But I can define the word monotonous;
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Post by gethadept on May 25, 2017 19:22:14 GMT
But I can define the word monotonous; dull, tedious, and repetitious; lacking in variety and interest. <- Subjective terms. Playing together, killing things, fighting, making combo and winning!!... These are in every round of MEAMP and those alone might be good enough to make the game not monotonous for some people.
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Post by varicite on May 25, 2017 19:26:18 GMT
gethadept, I really hope that a month from now, I can still be as excited about playing these matches as you seem to be, lol.
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Post by CommanderSanders on May 25, 2017 19:28:21 GMT
I can see where you're coming from, but who gives a shit how other people play? No one is forcing you to conform to this whole "camping" ideology that you're so adamant about exposing/criticizing. Hell, I do it a lot too because I love the playstyle of supporting my frontline teammates by picking off key targets and doing objectives that would otherwise be difficult for them to do on their own.
When I do frontline, I play Krogan Merc and it's a pain in the ass having Sharpshooters/Anointed/Observers beaming your ass from across the map. When one of those lowly camping bastards come into the game and actually pick enemies off, it's a nice sigh of relief.
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Post by gethadept on May 25, 2017 19:30:14 GMT
gethadept , I really hope that a month from now, I can still be as excited about playing these matches as you seem to be, lol. I am not too excitied like I used to be in ME3MP myself... lol ...but I still find this game quite fun. Might have something to do with the fact... I only play 3-5 games a day. Played 130 hours so far... so that`s like 2 hours a day I guess. But mainly I think it`s because this game is much less hardcore than ME3MP. I became that much less hardcore myself over last 5 years about video game. :srs: If people are looking for something as well built as the very final version of ME3MP... MEAMP is a disappointment... and there is nothing we can do about it sadly.. P.S I was going to quit too right before patch 1.06. Up to patch 1.05 both game play and stability was unacceptable quality.
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Post by sissiradisti on May 25, 2017 19:34:55 GMT
...yeah, you sound like an asshole. Sure, why not. hehheh sorry couldn't resist but on serious note Bioware should definitely rework that map just like they did with firebase white on ME3
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Post by gethadept on May 25, 2017 19:39:46 GMT
hehheh sorry couldn't resist but on serious note Bioware should definitely rework that map just like they did with firebase white on ME3 That could be a good solution. White had definitely interesting change over time. lol BW not only added Geth bomber... but fixed the map itself unexpectedly. For Zero.. if BW can.. they can put lower ground area behind camping spot where enemies get spawned frequently when people camp there. lol
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Post by Terminator Force on May 25, 2017 19:54:08 GMT
I can see where you're coming from, but who gives a shit how other people play? No one is forcing you to conform to this whole "camping" ideology that you're so adamant about exposing/criticizing. Well for those that care for the game, as GethAdept, it would mean the game gets killed faster due to increased monotony. And for guys like me, it just means I'm going to get encouraged more to find another game sooner then later to soak up my free time.
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Post by JRandall0308 on May 25, 2017 20:34:54 GMT
Please leave then, Terminator Force. You shtick is tiresome in the extreme.
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Post by CommanderSanders on May 25, 2017 20:44:16 GMT
I can see where you're coming from, but who gives a shit how other people play? No one is forcing you to conform to this whole "camping" ideology that you're so adamant about exposing/criticizing. Well for those that care for the game, as GethAdept, it would mean the game gets killed faster due to increased monotony. And for guys like me, it just means I'm going to get encouraged more to find another game sooner then later to soak up my free time. It's not just camping that's killing the game, though. There were, and still are, plenty of lobbies in ME3MP that just camp until they're overrun. Even though players have much larger amounts of mobility in MEAMP, it's not fast-paced enough to incentivize close-quarters kits due to the increased cooldown of all abilities, at least in my opinion. It's why grenade-centered kits are so good right now. Because all they need to do is find an ammo box or just use an ammo consumable and they can keep unleashing hell on the enemies. The map design also favors camping playstyles due to the huge lines-of-sight. It's why Firebase Glacier was so well-received when it came out in ME3MP. It allowed shotgun users and CQC kits to flourish. The only true CQC map in MEAMP, as of right now, is the Remnant Ruins that we can't play on Gold because reasons. The other issue is that there's no incentive to run Random/Random, besides the fact that you want varied gameplay. I know the devs have stated that they don't want to put bonuses for Random/Random but it's ultimately going to be the final nail in the coffin, IMO, since most players are always looking for the most efficient way to farm credits, which they're going to do now, more than ever, because you need to max out your character's card to get all of the skill points.
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Post by Sentinel2010 on May 25, 2017 20:49:56 GMT
Sure, why not.
There are so many scrub campers in this game ruining it, we don't mind if they mix an egocentric troll into this soup.
These two things are not so different after all.
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Post by megabeast37215 on May 25, 2017 21:02:18 GMT
Look here Sinful Force. I camp, bc team synergy is fun.. making 3-5 combos a second is fun. I remember when you were a fledgling ME3 scrub.. who could barely Gold. I'm better than you, and I camp my ass off bc it's fun.
You ain't shit.
Also.. listening to you have full conversations with your cat was one of the weirdest things I've ever heard.
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Post by hanskey on May 25, 2017 21:27:57 GMT
I'll admit that in the first few hours of Gold gameplay I did some Outlaw/Zero camping. It was very obvious that I was not getting better at the game by doing do, so I generally don't camp because I want to L2P and git gud. I mostly play with friends and I mostly host when pugging, so ... also, I really suck the the Asari Adept when using the Shield-powered Lance. Ask Abramsrunner. It was sad how quick I went down once I got that evolution - Wave 1 wipes.
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Post by hanskey on May 25, 2017 21:30:28 GMT
hehheh sorry couldn't resist but on serious note Bioware should definitely rework that map just like they did with firebase white on ME3 That could be a good solution. White had definitely interesting change over time. lol BW not only added Geth bomber... but fixed the map itself unexpectedly. For Zero.. if BW can.. they can put lower ground area behind camping spot where enemies get spawned frequently when people camp there. lol Actually in ME3MP they scrubbed ALL the camp spots from every map that had a widely known one eventually, not just FBW.
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Post by ramsen on May 25, 2017 21:35:16 GMT
If people are camping on zero I just run into the side rooms and have a single player adventure.
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Post by jupitersj on May 25, 2017 21:37:46 GMT
I camp the shit out of Zero some nights if I'm credit farming and don't feel like being a try-hard all night aggravating my carpal tunnel. I wish more pugs would troll my Gold games, then I'd just solo the rest of the match lul
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Post by Gya on May 25, 2017 22:00:19 GMT
Look here Sinful Force. I camp, bc team synergy is fun.. making 3-5 combos a second is fun. I remember when you were a fledgling ME3 scrub.. who could barely Gold. I'm better than you, and I camp my ass off bc it's fun. You ain't shit. Also.. listening to you have full conversations with your cat was one of the weirdest things I've ever heard. I wish flamethrower could burn as well as this.
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Post by 3rdpig on May 25, 2017 23:18:44 GMT
Since the game has a class of weapons called "Sniper Rifles" it seems safe to assume that the game also might have a class of character called the "Sniper".
Snipers have, since the job existed, tended to find a safe, hidden perch and...wait for it now...snipe the enemy. Running around like a jackrabbit on steroids might be your definition of "How the game is meant to be played", but it's not the definition of a sniper. It never has been and it's doubtful it will be when space magic exists.
When I play a sniper I camp on non objective waves. When I play another type of character I'll run around killing stuff.
That being said anyone, sniper or otherwise, who doesn't help with objectives is an ass and deserves to be trolled a bit.
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Post by Terminator Force on May 26, 2017 0:06:12 GMT
Since the game has a class of weapons called "Sniper Rifles" it seems safe to assume that the game also might have a class of character called the "Sniper". Snipers have, since the job existed, tended to find a safe, hidden perch and...wait for it now...snipe the enemy. Running around like a jackrabbit on steroids might be your definition of "How the game is meant to be played", but it's not the definition of a sniper. It never has been and it's doubtful it will be when space magic exists. When I play a sniper I camp on non objective waves. When I play another type of character I'll run around killing stuff. That being said anyone, sniper or otherwise, who doesn't help with objectives is an ass and deserves to be trolled a bit. Like I've already said, you guys are playing the wrong game. ^ Here's what you should be playing.
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Post by Vatkuli on May 26, 2017 0:50:11 GMT
Dude, Duck hunt was awesome. But yeah, on the topic, take a little break, it will do you good and if you feel like coming back later if the (most probably ones you have to pay for this time) DLC's/add ons/big "updates" come...try it out again and see if the game feels refreshed enough for you.
A little debate here and there is most of the time positive, no need for anyone to get "toxic".
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Post by Terminator Force on May 26, 2017 0:55:58 GMT
Dude, Duck hunt was awesome. But yeah, on the topic, take a little break, it will do you good and if you feel like coming back later if the (most probably ones you have to pay for this time) DLC's/add ons/big "updates" come...try it out again and see if the game feels refreshed enough for you. A little debate here and there is most of the time positive, no need for anyone to get "toxic".How about intoxicated? I've remembered a bottle of white wine and deciding to pour me a fine light clear glass while I make my way through the fall forest path to Riften.
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on May 26, 2017 1:27:50 GMT
When I was a counter-server Salarian Engineer on old FBW, nobody trolled me for being a cowardly scrub... One of them even told me to get away from the LZ at extraction until 20 seconds.
Became my first PuG friend, my dear phrozzy.
Just saying Schwarzenegger Force, you are better than this.
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Post by treoir on May 26, 2017 1:42:33 GMT
Like I've already said, you guys are playing the wrong game. Hey, I happened to *like* deeper into the ruins, today.
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Post by vomder on May 26, 2017 2:22:20 GMT
While I dislike just hanging around one spot on the map, all I really want from Randos is competency. If this game was PVP, well then fuck camping in the mother fucking ass. Also I picture you like this.
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