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Post by roivas on Nov 19, 2017 15:57:25 GMT
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Post by obbie1984 on Nov 19, 2017 20:22:11 GMT
Fair enough. I do agree that Sheploo has good facial animations and his skin texture doesn't look as weird as a created character. But he's just too generic looking for me personally. I think its one of the few things I've never done in ME (playing as Sheploo).
I also wouldn't be able to get into the romances myself if it wasn't happening to "my" character. But that's just me.
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Post by dmc1001 on Nov 20, 2017 20:56:34 GMT
So... when you guys romance Kaidan, do you guys use Sheploo? Just wondering, because I cannot get into the romances unless the Shepard is based off me. Call me selfish.  A bit of both. I prefer Sheploo. CC tends to glitch when importing into ME2 and ME3. It never looks like the character I created. Sheploo is consistent. That said, I occasionally play around with CC but it's not my preference. |
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Post by obbie1984 on Nov 20, 2017 23:06:58 GMT
So... when you guys romance Kaidan, do you guys use Sheploo? Just wondering, because I cannot get into the romances unless the Shepard is based off me. Call me selfish. A bit of both. I prefer Sheploo. CC tends to glitch when importing into ME2 and ME3. It never looks like the character I created. Sheploo is consistent. That said, I occasionally play around with CC but it's not my preference. I feel this is more the case with the female Shepard. The male ones tend to fare a lot better in this regard. I think I've only had one male Shepard that looked bad into ME3. For femshep I always need to tweak her because of how bad she ends up. I once created a blond Shepard and she ended up being a dark brown woman with orange hair. |
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Post by dmc1001 on Nov 21, 2017 3:42:43 GMT
A bit of both. I prefer Sheploo. CC tends to glitch when importing into ME2 and ME3. It never looks like the character I created. Sheploo is consistent. That said, I occasionally play around with CC but it's not my preference. I feel this is more the case with the female Shepard. The male ones tend to fare a lot better in this regard. I think I've only had one male Shepard that looked bad into ME3. For femshep I always need to tweak her because of how bad she ends up. I once created a blond Shepard and she ended up being a dark brown woman with orange hair. I created a redhead Shepard in ME1 whose hair got progressively browner. His eyes got beady or something in ME2. His nose was sort of off by ME3. People told me this was common with custom characters. |
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Post by L2 Sentinel on Nov 22, 2017 12:38:22 GMT
So... when you guys romance Kaidan, do you guys use Sheploo? Just wondering, because I cannot get into the romances unless the Shepard is based off me. Call me selfish.  I tried to make a custom Shepard in ME1, but nothing I could come up with in the character creator was nearly as handsome as the default option, so I just went with that. I tried again in ME2 and ME3, but the results were always the same (but the time I got to ME3 I was pretty married to the default appearance, but I messed with the character creator anyway just to see). It all worked out for the best, for me. There are certain moments in the game where I have to take a moment just to admire the way the light is hitting Sheploo's gorgeous face. But the best part of all is I can look at fanart of John and Kaidan together and easily insert my Shepard there (unless he has renegade scars). And I can buy figures and other merchandise of male Shepard and feel like "Yup, that's my John."  |
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Post by obbie1984 on Nov 23, 2017 1:32:52 GMT
So... when you guys romance Kaidan, do you guys use Sheploo? Just wondering, because I cannot get into the romances unless the Shepard is based off me. Call me selfish. I tried to make a custom Shepard in ME1, but nothing I could come up with in the character creator was nearly as handsome as the default option, so I just went with that. I tried again in ME2 and ME3, but the results were always the same (but the time I got to ME3 I was pretty married to the default appearance, but I messed with the character creator anyway just to see). It all worked out for the best, for me. There are certain moments in the game where I have to take a moment just to admire the way the light is hitting Sheploo's gorgeous face. But the best part of all is I can look at fanart of John and Kaidan together and easily insert my Shepard there (unless he has renegade scars). And I can buy figures and other merchandise of male Shepard and feel like "Yup, that's my John."  Fair enough. But for the life of me, I cannot play as default broshep. I certainly tried. I have had enough of burly white dudes with shaved heads and stubble in video games. He looks fine, but he's just too generic to me. Also, I would not have gotten into the Ashley romance as much as I did recently if I was playing Sheploo. It would have been happening to some random guy instead of a character based on me. But that's just me. |
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Post by L2 Sentinel on Nov 23, 2017 6:59:24 GMT
I tried to make a custom Shepard in ME1, but nothing I could come up with in the character creator was nearly as handsome as the default option, so I just went with that. I tried again in ME2 and ME3, but the results were always the same (but the time I got to ME3 I was pretty married to the default appearance, but I messed with the character creator anyway just to see). It all worked out for the best, for me. There are certain moments in the game where I have to take a moment just to admire the way the light is hitting Sheploo's gorgeous face. But the best part of all is I can look at fanart of John and Kaidan together and easily insert my Shepard there (unless he has renegade scars). And I can buy figures and other merchandise of male Shepard and feel like "Yup, that's my John." Fair enough. But for the life of me, I cannot play as default broshep. I certainly tried. I have had enough of burly white dudes with shaved heads and stubble in video games. He looks fine, but he's just too generic to me. Also, I would not have gotten into the Ashley romance as much as I did recently if I was playing Sheploo. It would have been happening to some random guy instead of a character based on me. But that's just me. Ah, I see. I can understand that. The "generic" thing wasn't a problem for me because I cannot think of a single game I've played prior to Mass Effect where I played a guy with a shaved head (and I think his features are striking and that hairline scar is sexy, which eliminates any sense of blandness I might have gotten from his appearance). I stay away from shooters and modern military style games as a rule so buzz cuts aren't that common in my library of games. I didn't Mass Effect at all until late 2012 because I misjudged it as "another shooter." I didn't really know the depth of Mass Effect's roleplaying elements until I actually played it. My first attempt at playing, I tried to play an infiltrator and, after several deaths on Eden Prime, switch to an adept because I figured the only way I could get through the game was to play the class that seemed the least dependent on good shooter skills. I ended up really liking John as an adept (he combos so well with Kaidan and I love that the two of them are the most badass biotics in the Alliance), so it ended up being the best decision for me. I also have a completely different style of roleplaying, I guess. I don't have the mentality of "this character is me" so much as I like to assume the identity of the character I am playing, if that makes sense. I don't really make self insert characters in any game. I enjoy getting into a character's head and placing myself in his/her shoes, but I also like having the distinction between them and me. They are the heroes; I'm the observer, even when I'm ultimately making all the decisions. This has in no way inhibited me from becoming more emotionally invested in John's relationship with Kaidan than I ever thought I was capable of. They are my favorite couple of all time, and I still feel that way five years later. |
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Post by obbie1984 on Nov 24, 2017 6:55:08 GMT
Fair enough. But for the life of me, I cannot play as default broshep. I certainly tried. I have had enough of burly white dudes with shaved heads and stubble in video games. He looks fine, but he's just too generic to me. Also, I would not have gotten into the Ashley romance as much as I did recently if I was playing Sheploo. It would have been happening to some random guy instead of a character based on me. But that's just me. Ah, I see. I can understand that. The "generic" thing wasn't a problem for me because I cannot think of a single game I've played prior to Mass Effect where I played a guy with a shaved head (and I think his features are striking and that hairline scar is sexy, which eliminates any sense of blandness I might have gotten from his appearance). I stay away from shooters and modern military style games as a rule so buzz cuts aren't that common in my library of games. I didn't Mass Effect at all until late 2012 because I misjudged it as "another shooter." I didn't really know the depth of Mass Effect's roleplaying elements until I actually played it. My first attempt at playing, I tried to play an infiltrator and, after several deaths on Eden Prime, switch to an adept because I figured the only way I could get through the game was to play the class that seemed the least dependent on good shooter skills. I ended up really liking John as an adept (he combos so well with Kaidan and I love that the two of them are the most badass biotics in the Alliance), so it ended up being the best decision for me. I also have a completely different style of roleplaying, I guess. I don't have the mentality of "this character is me" so much as I like to assume the identity of the character I am playing, if that makes sense. I don't really make self insert characters in any game. I enjoy getting into a character's head and placing myself in his/her shoes, but I also like having the distinction between them and me. They are the heroes; I'm the observer, even when I'm ultimately making all the decisions. This has in no way inhibited me from becoming more emotionally invested in John's relationship with Kaidan than I ever thought I was capable of. They are my favorite couple of all time, and I still feel that way five years later. Ha! It was the opposite for me. I tend to play all types of games, but I've played my fair share of third person cover shooters and modern/military first person shooters. So John came across as generic to me. As you said, he does have a striking appearance, but he is based off a model. He looks fine as I said, but I've played enough games where there are characters similar to him. My ME experience was sort of similar to yours. I thought it was a space shooter and didn't realize the role playing elements. I played as a female soldier first, but like you, couldn't get past the awkward shooting and shelved the game for like a year. I finally gave it a shot in 2015 (even way later than you). And I think Kaidan in general works with any class. I think despite not being tanky, he is the most versatile squad mate in ME1. He's bailed me out of so many jams in ME1. I almost exclusively run Wrex/Kaidan (Tali for some variety and forget the rest) because they are that good. You mention he's a good biotic, but he's also an excellent tech character as well. He's the perfect Sentinel. I also didn't initially like Kaidan, but he grew on me. I actually really liked that he wasn't a generic dudebro character you see in most games. His views and personality felt more... "real" if that makes sense. I think he also works well for literally every Shepard relationship wise too. He's a good romance or friend for either gender. I know I'm in the minority with this, but Kaidan is my "bro" way before Garrus would ever be. And I sort of get what you're saying. You're like the director of your games right? If the game gives an option to customize or tailor's it to your experience, I'm going to do so. I think I abide by your way of thinking when I play femshep. But I think my femshep is very attractove so I don't mind playing her. But if I play a dude, I need to play a character that is an extension of me. And not to get dark, but I've served in the military, I overcame a lot of things that were against me during that time. I've also nearly died and I have implants holding parts of my body together because of it. Even though its a bit of a stretch, I feel like I can sympathize and understand Shepard because of these things. |
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Post by L2 Sentinel on Nov 24, 2017 23:14:01 GMT
Ha! It was the opposite for me. I tend to play all types of games, but I've played my fair share of third person cover shooters and modern/military first person shooters. So John came across as generic to me. As you said, he does have a striking appearance, but he is based off a model. He looks fine as I said, but I've played enough games where there are characters similar to him. My ME experience was sort of similar to yours. I thought it was a space shooter and didn't realize the role playing elements. I played as a female soldier first, but like you, couldn't get past the awkward shooting and shelved the game for like a year. I finally gave it a shot in 2015 (even way later than you). And I think Kaidan in general works with any class. I think despite not being tanky, he is the most versatile squad mate in ME1. He's bailed me out of so many jams in ME1. I almost exclusively run Wrex/Kaidan (Tali for some variety and forget the rest) because they are that good. You mention he's a good biotic, but he's also an excellent tech character as well. He's the perfect Sentinel. I also didn't initially like Kaidan, but he grew on me. I actually really liked that he wasn't a generic dudebro character you see in most games. His views and personality felt more... "real" if that makes sense. I think he also works well for literally every Shepard relationship wise too. He's a good romance or friend for either gender. I know I'm in the minority with this, but Kaidan is my "bro" way before Garrus would ever be. And I sort of get what you're saying. You're like the director of your games right? If the game gives an option to customize or tailor's it to your experience, I'm going to do so. I think I abide by your way of thinking when I play femshep. But I think my femshep is very attractive so I don't mind playing her. But if I play a dude, I need to play a character that is an extension of me. And not to get dark, but I've served in the military, I overcame a lot of things that were against me during that time. I've also nearly died and I have implants holding parts of my body together because of it. Even though its a bit of a stretch, I feel like I can sympathize and understand Shepard because of these things. In regards to the bold text: I know exactly what you mean. I completely appreciated that they made him so grounded and real. He was allowed to be quiet, introspective, compassionate, and even sensitive without having to resort to emasculating him. There is nothing wrong with effeminate men, but we don't get such positive portrayals of masculinity too often. Even if I didn't romance him, I'd consider him to be my Shepard's best friend. I kind of resent that the game pushes Garrus on you so hard as the best friend; I'm way more drawn to Kaidan's personality (but yes, we are most definitely in the minority in that regard). Luckily, I had the romance with him to solidify that he was the one that mattered most to my Shepard. "Director of your games" is a brilliant way to put it! Also, in the same way that you find your femshep attractive, I find my male Shepard attractive, so that probably factors into it. |
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Post by obbie1984 on Nov 25, 2017 3:15:46 GMT
In regards to the bold text: I know exactly what you mean. I completely appreciated that they made him so grounded and real. He was allowed to be quiet, introspective, compassionate, and even sensitive without having to resort to emasculating him. There is nothing wrong with effeminate men, but we don't get such positive portrayals of masculinity too often. Even if I didn't romance him, I'd consider him to be my Shepard's best friend. I kind of resent that the game pushes Garrus on you so hard as the best friend; I'm way more drawn to Kaidan's personality (but yes, we are most definitely in the minority in that regard). Luckily, I had the romance with him to solidify that he was the one that mattered most to my Shepard. "Director of your games" is a brilliant way to put it! Also, in the same way that you find your femshep attractive, I find my male Shepard attractive, so that probably factors into it. Yes, exactly. I'm glad someone else understands. He felt more like a good friend. I know I've mentioned this before, but I did the renegade option with him on the final beam run for the first time recently. It felt extremely genuine from Kaidan's because the voice acting was on fire. He really sounded like he was injured, but hurt at the same time like he was letting me down. And the "sanity check" scene where you can call him your brother makes his arc feel complete to me. I do also find it annoying Garrus is pushed so hard on you. But I find it a bit more annoying everyone thinks Garrus is an amazing character but bag on Kaidan because he has issues with some of your actions. Because apparently friends can't disagree or have fights. Garrus just feels like he's kissing Shepard's ass all the time. I still think he's likable and he's definitely a lot better than Liara who I despise. And I'm confused. Do you mean you find John attractive or your own Shepard? |
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Post by L2 Sentinel on Nov 26, 2017 1:30:49 GMT
And I'm confused. Do you mean you find John attractive or your own Shepard? Sorry for the confusion. My Shepard is John. I use the names interchangeably. |
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Post by dmc1001 on Nov 26, 2017 3:11:03 GMT
And I'm confused. Do you mean you find John attractive or your own Shepard? Sorry for the confusion. My Shepard is John. I use the names interchangeably. My first few were John. Then I diverged a little (Jonathan, Jon) and then branched it. It got too confusing knowing which PT I was going through. In my head, he's always John. That's why the tumblr JohnLovesKaidan resonates with me so much. |
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Post by MarilynRobert on Nov 26, 2017 4:27:02 GMT
When it comes to both the female and male Sheps, I like the default version, esp with the male Shep. The default male is Shep to me, esp knowing about the guy who the default Shep is modeled after.
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Post by fraggle on Nov 26, 2017 8:42:48 GMT
Damn, had forgotten I wanted to answer this as well: I never use the defaults for either gender, I have to make Shepard 'mine' and I love to spend time in the CC to try and find a look that is fitting for their personality or reflects what happened to them (I never play myself in these games, but I think we talked about this in the Jack thread already, Obbie  ). I can get into most romances just fine even if it's not something I would or could pursue in RL, but I'm just content with getting into Shepard's mindset and romance someone from their perspective. I discovered my love for really RPing a character with ME. And as for Kaidan vs. Garrus... Kaidan all the way |
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That's why the tumblr JohnLovesKaidan resonates with me so much. So this is a little embarrassing, but that's my tumblr.  |
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Post by obbie1984 on Nov 26, 2017 21:30:04 GMT
Damn, had forgotten I wanted to answer this as well: I never use the defaults for either gender, I have to make Shepard 'mine' and I love to spend time in the CC to try and find a look that is fitting for their personality or reflects what happened to them (I never play myself in these games, but I think we talked about this in the Jack thread already, Obbie ). I can get into most romances just fine even if it's not something I would or could pursue in RL, but I'm just content with getting into Shepard's mindset and romance someone from their perspective. I discovered my love for really RPing a character with ME. And as for Kaidan vs. Garrus... Kaidan all the way Great minds think alike. Here, have my like.  I don't know, maybe I'm just weird, but romancing Jack, Tali, or Ashley wouldn't have felt as personal to me if it weren't happening to my Obbie Shepard. Where as when I romanced Kaidan with femshep, I was at least able to appreciate how Kaidan acted around her even if I can't relate to a female romance. As L2Sentinel said, he didn't need to overcompensate, but he still comes off as manly. And you prefer Kaidan over Garrus too? Wow, wish I could leave more likes.  |
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That's why the tumblr JohnLovesKaidan resonates with me so much. So this is a little embarrassing, but that's my tumblr.  No need to be embarrassed. I love it! |
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Post by fraggle on Nov 27, 2017 10:41:02 GMT
Damn, had forgotten I wanted to answer this as well: I never use the defaults for either gender, I have to make Shepard 'mine' and I love to spend time in the CC to try and find a look that is fitting for their personality or reflects what happened to them (I never play myself in these games, but I think we talked about this in the Jack thread already, Obbie ). I can get into most romances just fine even if it's not something I would or could pursue in RL, but I'm just content with getting into Shepard's mindset and romance someone from their perspective. I discovered my love for really RPing a character with ME. And as for Kaidan vs. Garrus... Kaidan all the way Great minds think alike. Here, have my like. I don't know, maybe I'm just weird, but romancing Jack, Tali, or Ashley wouldn't have felt as personal to me if it weren't happening to my Obbie Shepard. Where as when I romanced Kaidan with femshep, I was at least able to appreciate how Kaidan acted around her even if I can't relate to a female romance. As L2Sentinel said, he didn't need to overcompensate, but he still comes off as manly. And you prefer Kaidan over Garrus too? Wow, wish I could leave more likes.  I might be an odd one, but I love to play roles that are not like me  For example I love playing MShep to get different perspectives on certain romances, something I could not experience in RL. It's fresh and fun to do for me because it's different from my own gender. How much I can get into some romances is dependent on how much I like a character and/or my own Shepard. I adored Kaidan's (m/m) and Jack's romance because these two are my favourite characters outside of Javik and James (whose 'romance' pretty much sucks...) and I care a lot about them. I'm also currently romancing Steve for the first time and having a blast because he fits so well with the Shepard I'm playing and because Steve also is a lovely and adorable guy. That makes me really happy and I can appreciate the romance and get into it a lot. Funny thing is that I never completed Kaidan's romance with FemShep so far, even though this should be the one I could relate to the most. But I just have so much fun with other romances, haha. It's on my list though and I will do it soon! It's surely interesting how players differ in playing these games, always a great read |
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Post by obbie1984 on Nov 28, 2017 6:26:54 GMT
Great minds think alike. Here, have my like. I don't know, maybe I'm just weird, but romancing Jack, Tali, or Ashley wouldn't have felt as personal to me if it weren't happening to my Obbie Shepard. Where as when I romanced Kaidan with femshep, I was at least able to appreciate how Kaidan acted around her even if I can't relate to a female romance. As L2Sentinel said, he didn't need to overcompensate, but he still comes off as manly. And you prefer Kaidan over Garrus too? Wow, wish I could leave more likes. I might be an odd one, but I love to play roles that are not like me  For example I love playing MShep to get different perspectives on certain romances, something I could not experience in RL. It's fresh and fun to do for me because it's different from my own gender. How much I can get into some romances is dependent on how much I like a character and/or my own Shepard. I adored Kaidan's (m/m) and Jack's romance because these two are my favourite characters outside of Javik and James (whose 'romance' pretty much sucks...) and I care a lot about them. I'm also currently romancing Steve for the first time and having a blast because he fits so well with the Shepard I'm playing and because Steve also is a lovely and adorable guy. That makes me really happy and I can appreciate the romance and get into it a lot. Funny thing is that I never completed Kaidan's romance with FemShep so far, even though this should be the one I could relate to the most. But I just have so much fun with other romances, haha. It's on my list though and I will do it soon! It's surely interesting how players differ in playing these games, always a great read Its not weird I suppose. I was just expecting more people to think along the same lines as me. Though if you remember me mentioning in the Jack topic, I did say I would find it hard to like a girl like Jack in real life because of her past. And romancing an alien who's face you cannot see would also be hard for me to swallow. So Ash would be the best choice if I was role playing. But everyone is different. And I've never done Kaidan/bro shep romance nor Steve's but I have heard good things. But I do agree Steve is a cool guy regardless of romance. Though I have a question for you. Have you romanced the same character more than once? And did you find them weaker as a result? I'm not sure if you read, but I feel this way about Miranda recently. Her romance was much weaker than I remembered and found myself not caring about her or her arc as much. Her romance in general feels a bit lazy. Where as characters like Jack, Kaidan, Tali, and Ash were even better on a repeat run. |
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Post by fraggle on Nov 28, 2017 12:10:47 GMT
I might be an odd one, but I love to play roles that are not like me For example I love playing MShep to get different perspectives on certain romances, something I could not experience in RL. It's fresh and fun to do for me because it's different from my own gender. How much I can get into some romances is dependent on how much I like a character and/or my own Shepard. I adored Kaidan's (m/m) and Jack's romance because these two are my favourite characters outside of Javik and James (whose 'romance' pretty much sucks...) and I care a lot about them. I'm also currently romancing Steve for the first time and having a blast because he fits so well with the Shepard I'm playing and because Steve also is a lovely and adorable guy. That makes me really happy and I can appreciate the romance and get into it a lot. Funny thing is that I never completed Kaidan's romance with FemShep so far, even though this should be the one I could relate to the most. But I just have so much fun with other romances, haha. It's on my list though and I will do it soon! It's surely interesting how players differ in playing these games, always a great read Its not weird I suppose. I was just expecting more people to think along the same lines as me. Though if you remember me mentioning in the Jack topic, I did say I would find it hard to like a girl like Jack in real life because of her past. And romancing an alien who's face you cannot see would also be hard for me to swallow. So Ash would be the best choice if I was role playing. But everyone is different. And I've never done Kaidan/bro shep romance nor Steve's but I have heard good things. But I do agree Steve is a cool guy regardless of romance. Though I have a question for you. Have you romanced the same character more than once? And did you find them weaker as a result? I'm not sure if you read, but I feel this way about Miranda recently. Her romance was much weaker than I remembered and found myself not caring about her or her arc as much. Her romance in general feels a bit lazy. Where as characters like Jack, Kaidan, Tali, and Ash were even better on a repeat run. Yes, I remember And of course I really agree, as I would also not romance some people in real life, that's why I like putting myself into someone else's shoes in these games, hehe. As for Miranda, I felt that way with her whole arc minus the romance (haven't romanced her throughout both games yet). I found it okay in the beginning, but it's getting more and more weak after playing ME multiple times. Though I do like her various scenes for Horizon, especially her one death scene. I think it's normal though. Some arcs can feel weaker with each time seeing them, others might shine only after multiple playthroughs or will be even better than the first time. I romanced Kaidan with MShep in my first two runs, and my initial run was where I just tried out lots of things (where I also romanced Liara and Miranda prior to Kaidan  ), so since I played more 'serious' the second time I found the romance to be even better because I was more attached to both Shep and Kaidan. It will be some time before I play the same romance twice again, as I'm currently trying out all the romances for the first time. |
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Post by obbie1984 on Nov 29, 2017 7:22:43 GMT
Yes, I remember And of course I really agree, as I would also not romance some people in real life, that's why I like putting myself into someone else's shoes in these games, hehe. As for Miranda, I felt that way with her whole arc minus the romance (haven't romanced her throughout both games yet). I found it okay in the beginning, but it's getting more and more weak after playing ME multiple times. Though I do like her various scenes for Horizon, especially her one death scene. I think it's normal though. Some arcs can feel weaker with each time seeing them, others might shine only after multiple playthroughs or will be even better than the first time. I romanced Kaidan with MShep in my first two runs, and my initial run was where I just tried out lots of things (where I also romanced Liara and Miranda prior to Kaidan ), so since I played more 'serious' the second time I found the romance to be even better because I was more attached to both Shep and Kaidan. It will be some time before I play the same romance twice again, as I'm currently trying out all the romances for the first time. Oh, you haven't romanced her all the way through then? Alright, for some reason I felt like you might have done most if not all the romances. I actually think Miranda's death scene is actually better than her being alive. And I prefer to not give her resources and have her die on Sanctuary. And I guess you are right. I initially thought Garrus was "omg best character EVAR" when I first played the series. But on my second or third run, I was noticing there wasn't a whole lot to him. Especially if not romanced. And on the flip side, I actually have been seeing other characters in a more positive light. Ash and Kaidan were these characters for me. I initially thought Kaidan was a bit dull. And I actually never even gave Ashley the light of day past ME1. But now I really like both of them. And that is actually one thing I have yet to do. Play a Shepard that "plays the field." I will have to do that with my dbag character who I haven't gotten very far with yet (still on ME1). Also, Kaidan should have been bisexual from the start. I still feel Kaidan feels forced in ME3. And once again you struck me as someone who had done all the romances. Not sure why, but good luck and have fun. |
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Post by fraggle on Nov 29, 2017 9:52:53 GMT
Oh, you haven't romanced her all the way through then? Alright, for some reason I felt like you might have done most if not all the romances. I actually think Miranda's death scene is actually better than her being alive. And I prefer to not give her resources and have her die on Sanctuary. And I guess you are right. I initially thought Garrus was "omg best character EVAR" when I first played the series. But on my second or third run, I was noticing there wasn't a whole lot to him. Especially if not romanced. And on the flip side, I actually have been seeing other characters in a more positive light. Ash and Kaidan were these characters for me. I initially thought Kaidan was a bit dull. And I actually never even gave Ashley the light of day past ME1. But now I really like both of them. No, not yet. I've only completely done Kaidan's m/m, Jack's, Garrus's, Jacob's, Traynor's, Tali's. Steve's will be done soon and next up is Liara. I consider doing Miri's romance after that. And yes, the death scene where you don't give her the resources is my favourite outcome too. It was really well done and even got me a little emotional. Same for me. Kaidan and Garrus were my first beloved characters, Kaidan stayed one of them, Garrus is not even in my Top 5 anymore. I initially loathed Ash, Miranda and Javik. Javik is now one of my favourites and I like Miranda a lot, Ash is fine, but I don't like her that much in ME3  Perhaps the romance can change this! I remember there was a thread on the old BSN board where people posted about liking or disliking characters more/less after multiple playthroughs. It was highly entertaining to read. Yeah, have to do that at some point as well Personally I think it's fine to have Kaidan available for MShep in ME3, but I can see how people can find it forced. It's just that I don't have issues with a character suddenly being available for both genders, as I believe it's entirely possible in real life too that someone discovers being bi late in life or simply be attracted to the opposite gender Then again, having Kaidan bi from the start would have been great for all male players wanting to romance him, so I definitely agree on that part |
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For example I love playing MShep to get different perspectives on certain romances, something I could not experience in RL. It's fresh and fun to do for me because it's different from my own gender.
For example I love playing MShep to get different perspectives on certain romances, something I could not experience in RL. It's fresh and fun to do for me because it's different from my own gender.
), so since I played more 'serious' the second time I found the romance to be even better because I was more attached to both Shep and Kaidan. It will be some time before I play the same romance twice again, as I'm currently trying out all the romances for the first time.
Perhaps the romance can change this! I remember there was a thread on the old BSN board where people posted about liking or disliking characters more/less after multiple playthroughs. It was highly entertaining to read.