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Post by RonnieBlastoff on Jun 4, 2017 17:24:51 GMT
But *why* can't ARs be strong? We have ridiculously strong SMGs (or Pistols) now, why not ARs? This is what happens when we have a shooting game designed by people who've never handled a gun in real life. They don't understand the relationship between things like calibre and recoil or barrel length and muzzle velocity and manoeuvrability. Or how all those things affect weapon weight. They're just manipulating numbers on a spreadsheet. Sorry Bro, in no way in hell is any game going to be designed as if you are handling a real gun when you can shoot lightning bolts out your hand and use your brain to create miniature dark holes in between firing. ME3MP did have a downside to using barrels and scopes if I remember correctly, but then again im probably thinking about battlefield.
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Post by Leland Gaunt on Jun 4, 2017 17:28:10 GMT
This is what happens when we have a shooting game designed by people who've never handled a gun in real life. They don't understand the relationship between things like calibre and recoil or barrel length and muzzle velocity and manoeuvrability. Or how all those things affect weapon weight. They're just manipulating numbers on a spreadsheet. Sorry Bro, in no way in hell is any game going to be designed as if you are handling a real gun when you can shoot lightning bolts out your hand and use your brain to create miniature dark holes in between firing. ME3MP did have a downside to using barrels and scopes if I remember correctly, but then again im probably thinking about battlefield. Ronald Blastoff! My man
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RonnieBlastoff
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Making a grilled cheese sandwhich with bottled blue cheese.
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Post by RonnieBlastoff on Jun 4, 2017 18:29:54 GMT
I can't talk to you anymore, I have joined the master race and they are as terrible as we always said they were.
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Leland Gaunt
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Post by Leland Gaunt on Jun 4, 2017 19:14:58 GMT
I can't talk to you anymore, I have joined the master race and they are as terrible as we always said they were. There is a reason I haven't turned on my Xbox in years: PC
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Post by The Joe-Man on Jun 5, 2017 4:38:17 GMT
This is what happens when we have a shooting game designed by people who've never handled a gun in real life. They don't understand the relationship between things like calibre and recoil or barrel length and muzzle velocity and manoeuvrability. Or how all those things affect weapon weight. They're just manipulating numbers on a spreadsheet. Sorry Bro, in no way in hell is any game going to be designed as if you are handling a real gun when you can shoot lightning bolts out your hand and use your brain to create miniature dark holes in between firing. ME3MP did have a downside to using barrels and scopes if I remember correctly, but then again im probably thinking about battlefield. The guns in ME3 felt much better in regard to recoil, muzzle flash, refire rates, sound etc. It also had a dev who was a former member of the Canadian Armed Forces who, word has it, had quite a bit of influence on the way the guns handled. He's gone now.
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Post by Abramsrunner on Jun 5, 2017 4:48:47 GMT
The "S" on these guns stand for "Suck", not just because they're trash tier guns, but they also suck out an extra 2,500,000 credits for maxing out rare items.
They could've just buffed out the Common set of weapons instead of using the old "Copy'n paste".
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Post by operatorm1 on Jun 6, 2017 4:17:05 GMT
The "S" on these guns stand for "Suck", not just because they're trash tier guns, but they also suck out an extra 2,500,000 credits for maxing out rare items. They could've just buffed out the Common set of weapons instead of using the old "Copy'n paste". B-b-b-but....! 9 whole damage extra perbullet on the charger s! 9!!!!11!!1one!
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Post by reyzaburrel on Jun 6, 2017 9:33:03 GMT
Avenger X does 52 damage per shot and Avenger SX does 66 damage per shot. That +!4 damage per bullet really adds up with bonuses...
| Avenger SX | Avenger X | Base Damage Per Clip | 30 x 66 = 1980 | 30x 52 = 1560 | Damage per clip w/ Barrell X | 30x66(1+.21) = 2396 | R30 x 52 (1+.21) = 1887.6 | w/ Barrell X and AR Gear | 30x66(1+.21 + .1) = 2594 | 30x52(1+.21+.1) = 20 43.6 | w/ Barrell X and AR Gear AR Rail III | 30x66(1+.21+.1 +.3) = 3188 | 30x52(1+.21+.1 +.3) = 2512 | w/ above + 30% dmg passive | 30x66(1+.21+.1 +.3 +.3 +.) = 3782 | 30x52(1+.21+.1 +.3+.3) = 2980 |
The 30% damage passive is just generic, weapon damage passive. Some characters have 28%, some get/give 20% debuts, you have potential level III ammo, etc... Barell X with no other passives on Avenger SX will kill all redbars in a single clip on gold. An annointed’s health and shields comes out to 4275. A single clip of the avenger can almost strip the shields and kill an anointed on gold wot the right setup. If you use the ammo mod to increase magazine capacity, one clip should now do this with the right passives and gear. This of course assumes you are hitting your shots. But all the data in the table can be used with a stock as its just with a 30 bullet magazine. I'm thinking the avenger will be my new favorite AR and something I might actually enjoy playing....put it on a soldier with concussive shot, lots of damage/accuracy passives and turbo charge with elemental ammo and I bet it will be really really strong. CHARGER vs CHARGER S Charger X does 48 per shot and the S does 56 Row 1 column 1 | Charger SX | Charger X | Base Damage Per Cip | 50 x 56 = 2800 | 50x 48 = 2400 | With barely X | 50x56(1+.21) = 3388 | 50 x 48 (1+.21) = 2904 | Barely X and AR Gear | 50x56(1+.21 + .1) = 3668 | 50x48(1+.21+.1) = 3144 | Barely X and AR Gear and Rail III | 50x66(1+.21+.1 +.3) = 4508
| 50x48(1+.21+.1 +.3) = 3864 | Bw/ above + 30% dmg passive | 50x56(1+.21+.1 +.3 +.3 +.) = 5248 | 50x48(1+.21+.1 +.3+.3) = 4584 |
Using the rate of fire numbers (not counting any raise time) , Avenger SX fully modded takes 3.42s to dish out 3782 damage (full clip) for 1105.8 DPS Charger SX fully modded = 4.6 seconds to fire its whole (50 rnd) clip for 996.5 DPS Avenger is also more accurate at 65 vs 56 for charger. So the Avenger SX does more DPS and is more accurate but the Charger SX can put out damage for ~1.2 more seconds before reloading... but the avenger will land more bullets.. Also the upgrade to the avenger is MORE significant than the upgrade to the charger... So instead of just making those weapons stronger they created more bullshit fodder to rank up?! Like seriously, this is why I stopped playing this MP. Its garbage. In fact the entire game was garbage. Bioware should be ashamed of themselves for putting out suck bullshit. smh
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Post by Pounce de León on Jun 6, 2017 9:56:14 GMT
Fuck this shit. I'm not playing this crap to get a new heap of crap gear shovelled into my face as soon I've unlocked a basic decent stock of stuff.
You hear? FUCK YOU, BIOVAR!
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