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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2017 3:31:20 GMT
I think they should team up. Who wouldn't want that four man team. You see them coming, stuff dies out of fear.
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Post by cypherj on Jun 18, 2017 0:25:56 GMT
Unless Drack can kill a thresher maw single handedly, I'm going with Wrex. Alec was a badass N7 before he had SAM, and Shepard is an N7 and a Spectre, so I'm going with Shepard and Wrex.
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Post by zipzap2000 on Jun 18, 2017 5:23:35 GMT
Drak isn't a quint that craps dark matter and it took an ancient Reaper killing galaxy reset gun to kill Shepard.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2017 8:43:51 GMT
Ryder would destroy Shepard, hands down. He has SAM. Shepard has killed Reapers. SAM might be an A.I. but it is a significantly less advanced one than the ones Shepard destroyed, and SAM doesn't come packaged with dreadnought class weapons. Not only would the safe money be on Shepard, but the safe bet would be on Shepard whipping both Ryders simultaneously on his way to a more challenging opponent. Drack might take Wrex though. That's like the Krogan Mr. T taking on Krogan Chuck Norris. It's gonna be close, and the universe might just implode from too much concentrated awesome colliding.
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Post by warrior on Jun 18, 2017 8:49:03 GMT
Shepard would pulverize Ryder. Please.
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Post by KaiserShep on Jun 18, 2017 11:19:06 GMT
Ryder would destroy Shepard, hands down. He has SAM. Shepard has killed Reapers. SAM might be an A.I. but it is a significantly less advanced one than the ones Shepard destroyed, and SAM doesn't come packaged with dreadnought class weapons. Not only would the safe money be on Shepard, but the safe bet would be on Shepard whipping both Ryders simultaneously on his way to a more challenging opponent. Drack might take Wrex though. That's like the Krogan Mr. T taking on Krogan Chuck Norris. It's gonna be close, and the universe might just implode from too much concentrated awesome colliding. If we're being nitpicky, which I personally enjoy being, Shepard's only real reaper kill is the human proto-reaper in the Collector base. Everything else was more death by proxy, since Sovereign was defeated by killing its relatively puny avatar, and the Destroyer on Rannoch was technically shot down by the migrant fleet in orbit. All Shepard really had to do was run from the death ray and lase the target. Everything else was basically techno-zombies, and let's face it - Ryder would be just as adept at killing those things as Shepard was.
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Post by themikefest on Jun 18, 2017 11:26:35 GMT
and Shepard basically dodged a death ray while an entire fleet was actually doing the shooting. Had both destroyers, on Tuchanka and Rannoch, fired their beam of doom horizontally instead of vertically, Shepard would be dead.
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Post by ProbeAway on Jun 18, 2017 12:05:28 GMT
Ryder would destroy Shepard, hands down. He has SAM. Shepard has killed Reapers. SAM might be an A.I. but it is a significantly less advanced one than the ones Shepard destroyed, and SAM doesn't come packaged with dreadnought class weapons. Not only would the safe money be on Shepard, but the safe bet would be on Shepard whipping both Ryders simultaneously on his way to a more challenging opponent. Drack might take Wrex though. That's like the Krogan Mr. T taking on Krogan Chuck Norris. It's gonna be close, and the universe might just implode from too much concentrated awesome colliding. Lol what does that have to do with anything? Shep has killed reapers in very specific situations with a lot of help. It's not as if he just pointed his carnifex at one and took it down.
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Post by kenshen19 on Jun 18, 2017 17:23:42 GMT
Ryder would destroy Shepard, hands down. He has SAM. Shep would counter with EDI however the real advantage Ryder would have is the jet pack but that surprise wouldn't last long.
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Post by warrior on Jun 18, 2017 17:30:07 GMT
Ryder would destroy Shepard, hands down. He has SAM. Shep would counter with EDI however the real advantage Ryder would have is the jet pack but that surprise wouldn't last long. LOL Ryder wouldn't even get off the ground. Pleaseeee.
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Post by kenshen19 on Jun 18, 2017 19:19:02 GMT
Shep would counter with EDI however the real advantage Ryder would have is the jet pack but that surprise wouldn't last long. LOL Ryder wouldn't even get off the ground. Pleaseeee. Depends on how much trash talking Shep feels like dishing out before the fight begins.
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Post by griffith82 on Jun 18, 2017 20:10:23 GMT
So if we want an epic fight we need fight music.
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Post by ProbeAway on Jun 18, 2017 21:39:20 GMT
Ryder would destroy Shepard, hands down. He has SAM. Shep would counter with EDI however the real advantage Ryder would have is the jet pack but that surprise wouldn't last long. EDI is not implanted in Shep tho, so she's not part of the original question (which conversely only makes any sense if you allow Ryder the use of his SAM implant).
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Post by steppinrazor on Jun 19, 2017 2:11:13 GMT
Oh god, I just had the though of Wrex and Drack fighting, you're expecting this awesome, epic, badass fight. Then it's just a slap fight like with Morda and Strux hahaha
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2017 2:32:41 GMT
My money would be on Drack over Wrex. He is old and a cyborg that just knows many ways to kill something. Shepard well we know how he was a badass when all human. Bring in the ME2 cyborg version with all the enhancements. Little Ryder would be a beaten ragdoll. That leaves Shepard vs Drack. I'll take Shepard in that fight. Urdnot Wrex'd his pops WITH A KNIFE and papa Urdnot is from Drack's generation. Though Drack has more experience than nearly every non-reaper character in MEUniverse but aside from a few stories of intimidating people, I'd still give Wrex the advantage. It's almost like New Mutants era Wolverine vs Old Man Logan. Ryder vs Shep is no contest. The twins and Alec would get schooled or come up even (3v1) at best. Shepard in any background is a SAVAGE and has "taken down a compound full of indoctrinated soldiers after wiping his ass with Batarian prison guards" under his belt. He also went toe to toe with a Yahg (beating said Yahg's ass in the process and nearly overpowering him). Give the Ryder twins a few more years/adventures and then they can compare. I really wish we got to fight The Archon 1v1 to see how capable he is as a warrior.
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Post by dmc1001 on Jun 19, 2017 3:36:26 GMT
Shep/Drack! I can't believe it's even a question.... tsk.. The questions was actually Shep/Wrex or Ryder/Drack. So... I go Shep/Wrex. Wrex is probably almost as old as Drack. At minimum, he's over 700 (half Drack's age, I know) but he may be as old as 1000 - or more. On top of that, he's a krogan battlemaster. That means he's a badass biotic. I'd back Wrex. As for Shepard, no contest. That could change given more experience for Ryder but as it currently stands I don't see Ryder as capable of taking on Shepard.
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Post by dmc1001 on Jun 19, 2017 3:38:37 GMT
and Shepard basically dodged a death ray while an entire fleet was actually doing the shooting. Had both destroyers, on Tuchanka and Rannoch, fired their beam of doom horizontally instead of vertically, Shepard would be dead. Proof that the Reapers secretly wanted Shepard to win and choose Synthesis?
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Post by warrior on Jun 19, 2017 3:49:42 GMT
Had both destroyers, on Tuchanka and Rannoch, fired their beam of doom horizontally instead of vertically, Shepard would be dead. Proof that the Reapers secretly wanted Shepard to win and choose Synthesis? ***NEVER SYNTHESIS***
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Post by dmc1001 on Jun 19, 2017 4:04:41 GMT
Proof that the Reapers secretly wanted Shepard to win and choose Synthesis? ***NEVER SYNTHESIS*** Oh, I know. I was suggesting the Reapers wanted Synthesis. Any option the Reapers want is off the table, which means no Synthesis and no Refuse.
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Post by themikefest on Jun 19, 2017 4:41:29 GMT
Proof that the Reapers secretly wanted Shepard to win and choose Synthesis? Bioware had to make them stupid just so the galaxy has a chance to defeat the reapers With the green crap. That's exactly what it is, crap.
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Post by vallixas on Jun 20, 2017 0:37:10 GMT
I think Wrex would destroy Drack.
As for Shepard vs Ryder. Idunno. Gotta look at both objectively. On one hand Shepard saved the galaxy, but he also did it with the help of everyone else. Shepard also died by the collectors and would have stayed dead if not for again his friends (Liara) and of course because of Cerberus.
Shepard has also been outsmarted many times before, more than once by his clone alone. His clone would have succeeded too, if not for the fact that Shepard had superior friends to his clone.
In-game Shepards biggest feats are fighting the human reaper, and the thresher maw on foot. Though technically, it was more like Shepard versus bug babies while the thresher maw remains at a distance spamming ranged attacks. In terms of fighting big giant things on foot, I think Ryder might take this. He fought a total of 4 architects on foot, without any sort of heavy ordinance weaponry that Sherpard always needed to combat large mechanical beings. Hate the game or love it (I kindahate it) that's a pretty big deal. Then you have SAM, who can essentially download tactical expertise of any form into Ryder's brain.
As for Shepard having EDI. I'm almost 100% positive that SAM is far more advanced than EDI. I'm also not sure Shepard is this ''super cyborg'' the fanbase makes him out to be. In-game he shows himself to be as vunerable to injury as the rest of the human characters. Pretty sure he's just more synthetic than actually robotic. I'd like to think that if Shepard really was in part heavy mechanical, that would make fighting Ryder more dangerous since he could just screw around with his electronic parts rendering him useless. I'm 100% positive that Shepards friends would destroy Ryder's. But in a fight between the two without friends and without the plot armor that comes with the territory of being a protagonist, Ryder might win.
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Post by ioannisdenton on Jun 20, 2017 7:26:40 GMT
Ryder would destroy Shepard, hands down. He has SAM. Shepard has heavy weapons and his vanguard/nova combo is spammable plus the Voice man. With that said i like Ryder too.
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Post by ProbeAway on Jun 20, 2017 7:28:35 GMT
Ryder would destroy Shepard, hands down. He has SAM. Shepard has heavy weapons and his vanguard/nova combo is spammable plus the Voice man. With that said i like Ryder too. Im kinda assuming they're using the same weapons tho...
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Post by warrior on Jun 20, 2017 7:40:00 GMT
Shepard fucks Ryder up. Come. On. Y'all. What. Is. This.
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