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Post by smilesja on Aug 16, 2017 16:23:07 GMT
Happy to start posting but I'm wondering about the Teyrn. What sort of man is he? By this I mean what sort of reputation does he have in the wider world rather than his actual character which may be concealed from them. In other words, what sort of image does he like to project? Have there been any notable events in the Teyrnir since he took over that may have influenced the people's view of him? For example, does he make generous donations to the Chantry or give alms to the poor on his birthday? Does he hold extravagant parties? This might raise his popularity among the richer classes but earn the derision of the poor. These are all things that the other characters could know about from general enquiry or actual experience of living under his rule and might influence their motivations in helping or demands they make for payment. If you know the guy throws his coin about as though he has a never ending stream at his disposal, you might wish to push the price of your services up. The teryn likes to project himself as a good strong ruler even it's painfully obvious he's anything but. He does have loyalists and propagandists though and he loves to throw throws lavish parties.
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Post by gervaise21 on Aug 16, 2017 16:45:07 GMT
So sorry, for some reason I seemed to scroll past the NPCs earlier today. Seeing the picture of Jon it is clear that he does like throwing lavish parties, with lots of courses of food. That is great. Lot's to work with there.
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Post by gervaise21 on Aug 16, 2017 19:22:12 GMT
Okay, Ellas now has a picture if you want to check him out. I've also added it to my first post.
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Post by smilesja on Aug 16, 2017 19:39:49 GMT
Nice pic!
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Post by NeverlandHunter on Aug 16, 2017 23:24:24 GMT
Hmmmm,
I believe...
That I would...
Like to try this.
It sounds like an adventure!
So, here I am; tentatively reporting for enlistments with a character arriving soon after.
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Post by smilesja on Aug 16, 2017 23:34:57 GMT
Welcome! Make yourself at home!  the plot hook is on page 2 with the NPCs there as well.
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Post by smilesja on Aug 17, 2017 2:49:55 GMT
I've made a huge update to Edd Drake, so check it out.
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Post by smilesja on Aug 17, 2017 3:21:24 GMT
Added Vander as a new NPC!
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Post by gervaise21 on Aug 17, 2017 8:22:05 GMT
Read them both and just loving the way this is developing. I'm so psyched up about the potential of this story. Looking forward to seeing your first post on the main thread.
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Post by gervaise21 on Aug 17, 2017 9:23:21 GMT
Question to all you lovely people involved with this, are we using my expanded world state over on my other 9:45 Sins of the Father thread?
If so, it states that the HoF survives and Alistair is King, which means the US wasn't done by either of them. So what is your preference on this? Did HoF agree to Morrigan's deal, which no one will know about and only the Grey Wardens would really think highly suspicious? Or did HoF conscript Loghain to the Wardens and he volunteered/was forced into doing the US in order to spare the HoF?
The reason I ask is that it could affect the way Loghain was ultimately viewed by the population at large and might come up in conversation. So either he died a tyrant corrupted by power (executed) or died a redeemed hero (US). I'm not too keen on the alternative where Loghain did the dark ritual. Will have to check out the epilogue for that scenario if people want to go with that.
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Post by smilesja on Aug 17, 2017 16:34:24 GMT
For this thread. The only thing you need to know is that Allistair and Anora are king and queen. The rest I left vague though for Lavinia Empress Celene rules Orlais.
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Post by Space Cowboy on Aug 17, 2017 16:52:37 GMT
For this thread. The only thing you need to know is that Allistair and Anora are king and queen. The rest I left vague though for Lavinia Empress Celene rules Orlais. Gervaise made a pretty good case for wanting to know more details. It's reasonable to use the same world state for both threads since one is a prequel. You can't say beforehand what is or isn't going to come up.
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Post by phoray on Aug 17, 2017 18:10:00 GMT
I've found in my thread that, after checking in with players preference, setting as defined a world state as is relevant is important. It's certainly helped me make the story more full knowing who the Warden was and who they romanced and how they felt about the Warden order and the Chantry.
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Post by cmoe on Aug 17, 2017 18:19:50 GMT
I think gervaise21 had a great world state set up. It was well thought out and very detailed. Is there a reason not to use that?
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Post by smilesja on Aug 17, 2017 18:36:54 GMT
For this thread. The only thing you need to know is that Allistair and Anora are king and queen. The rest I left vague though for Lavinia Empress Celene rules Orlais. Gervaise made a pretty good case for wanting to know more details. It's reasonable to use the same world state for both threads since one is a prequel. You can't say beforehand what is or isn't going to come up. Which is why I keep it vague so people can add their preference like with Lavinia.
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Post by phoray on Aug 17, 2017 18:52:59 GMT
Gervaise made a pretty good case for wanting to know more details. It's reasonable to use the same world state for both threads since one is a prequel. You can't say beforehand what is or isn't going to come up. Which is why I keep it vague so people can add their preference like with Lavinia. If a preference is made in a post, it should be added to the World State as canon at that point so people can reference.
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Post by gervaise21 on Aug 17, 2017 18:59:25 GMT
Well my world state has Celene as Empress. I added Briala as ruling with her but there is no reason why Celene wouldn't have back tracked on that.
I'm okay with the Hero of Ferelden being a bit vague as to their identity because by now they have probably started taking on something of a mythical hero figure that everyone alters to their own idea of what that person should be. However, I think knowing what happened in the case of Loghain is important because people might refer to it.
For example, if Loghain was executed: Jon acquired the Teyrnir because of his courage and honour in battle but is now an over weight despot with little real care for his people. Conclusion that someone might draw is that this is simply a consequence of power corrupting the individual, since look what happened to the Hero of River Dane. So clearly Jon just needs removing a.s.a.p. by whatever means necessary.
Alternative if Loghain redeemed himself in the US: Jon may seem beyond all hope of redemption but who is to say he might not see the error of his ways and become a saviour to his people once more, just like the Hero of River Dane? So the focus might be on convincing him to do the right thing, thus reducing the possibility of potential bloodshed across the board.
It is a small detail but it is potentially important to different characters involved. Some may not be influenced either way but some might. The epilogues at the end of DAO reflected these two different approaches. If Loghain is executed only Anora mourns for him. If Loghain redeems himself the people say that Loghain is still watching over them and maintaining his vigilance against Orlais.
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Post by smilesja on Aug 17, 2017 19:01:19 GMT
I'd prefer a redeemed Loghain though there are lot of people who are disgusted with Jon.
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Post by smilesja on Aug 17, 2017 19:01:37 GMT
Which is why I keep it vague so people can add their preference like with Lavinia. If a preference is made in a post, it should be added to the World State as canon at that point so people can reference. Added.
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Post by phoray on Aug 17, 2017 19:11:54 GMT
@gervaise
I understand. In my RP, who the Warden is moderately matters, because it affects the Politics of Lothering--- one of the characters playing also professes to be a fan of the Warden, so it helps that she has information as well.
So what Loghain is doing matters to your world, who the Warden is/was matters in mine.
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Post by smilesja on Aug 17, 2017 19:21:30 GMT
gervaise21I PM'd you about Loghain's fate. Check it out.
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Post by gervaise21 on Aug 17, 2017 19:29:53 GMT
In some ways who the Warden was matters in everyone's world but, as I state above, you can work around by people simply ignoring their race, gender, background in favour of their own hero image. The Blight is a threat to all races and all nations so the person who stops the Blight becomes a sort of everyman figure.
Personally I would rather have the HoF as a city elf because that is my canon world state but I wanted to experiment with trying to carry over from one story to the next and since everyone has their own preferred Warden, I was happy to leave it vague. In some respects though having a human Warden who didn't end up Queen/King Consort or a dwarf actually makes less complications since they are not representing a race of second class citizens in the surface world. I appreciate you could be a castles dwarf but that would be more relevant in Orzammar. Even there though the race of the Warden may not be as significant because Bhelen was trying to open up the dwarf kingdom to the wider world and improving the status of the castles. So it is not the same as an elf Warden where an elf has saved the world from the Blight for the second time in a row (Garahel being the previous one) and they are still treated like second class citizens.
The Inquisitor is another case in point where I feel they were already hinting in game that your real identity was going to be subsumed by the heroic myth. After all, regardless of the truth of the matter that you discover in the Fade, people still insisted on calling you the Herald of Andraste and people, even Hawke, seem to think the myth is more important than the truth. That being the case, it probably wouldn't be long before the Herald of Andraste became a generic hero figure.
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Post by phoray on Aug 17, 2017 19:55:05 GMT
Ooooooo. Reminds me of my favorite Inquisitor line. Rainirr accuses the Quiz of exploiting the power of their position to get him free. And then Quizzie will say something like, "no one will remember this at all."
It's so wise, acknowledgement that present petty details like Rainier's trial will be lost to time in the very moment that very emotional present is occurring.
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Post by smilesja on Aug 17, 2017 20:03:59 GMT
phoray gervaise21So one of the Banns who'll rebel against Jon will mentioned that maybe Jon is redeemable using Tom Rainer's redemption as an example. Needless to say it doesn't really work with the others.
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Post by smilesja on Aug 18, 2017 1:26:21 GMT
If you guys have any prominent NPCs that you like to use. Please PM them to me so I can paste them to my NPC post. All I require is a picture and a brief description of said NPC.
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