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Post by NeverlandHunter on Aug 24, 2017 22:04:16 GMT
I made a small change to one line in my last post. It now mentions Rhian going to meet someone. I didn't want her meeting someone to feel tacked on (even though it is because I just got the idea), so that's the reason for the change.
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Post by Nimlowyn on Aug 25, 2017 1:08:46 GMT
A timeline is marvelous and very helpful, thanks NeverlandHunter! We may want Lavinia and Cyrus to meet a bit earlier than early April, that way they can arrive in Gwaren around the same time as the other characters.
Also I double checked WOT volume 1 and the Chantry calendar is a 12 month, 30 day calendar divided into four seasons. I think it stands to reason it is a pretty solid analogue to our own calendar (not to mention that the 8th month in the Thedosian calendar is also called August). That said, each month has two names: a high name and a low name. Per WOT vol 1 page 21: "Each thirty-day month has a low name, largely used among the common classes, as well as an official high name. Only courts and scholars use the month's alternative names, based on the original Tevinter." I'd wager most of our characters will probably use the "low names"; even Lavinia will, when speaking in common parlance. I'll be happy to provide them if people want to know them, but for now, here are the Thedosian "low" months, with each number corresponding to our own numbered month:
1 Wintermarch
2 Guardian
3 Drakonis
4 Cloudreach
5 Bloomingtide
6 Justinian
7 Solace
8 August
9 Kingsway
10 Harvestmere
11 Firstfall
12 Haring
So April would correspond to Cloudreach in the Thedosian calendar.
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Post by smilesja on Aug 25, 2017 1:18:23 GMT
Timeline so far: Late Cloudreach (I would say the 31st): Lavinia and Cyrus meet Mid Bloomingtide: Rhian sets off on a ship from Denerim to Gwaren Later Bloomingtide (Guessing here I would say the 2nd): Ozek chills out in the Brecilian Passage a distance from Gwaren Even later Bloomingtide (Gonna say the 4th): Rhian arrives in Gwaren and learns about the Teyrn's task A day later Bloomingtide (5th): Rhian gets outfitted at the markets and then meets Teyrn Jon at his Keep Perhaps that night Bloomingtide (Same night): Ellas entertains at a tavern and then goes and meets with the waifs under his care. Early morning Bloomingtide: Cyrus and Lavinia arrive at Gwaren. The next day Bloomingtide (6th): Ellas, under a pseudonym, meets Teyrn Jon. (Will Rhian meet him too. NeverlandHunter ? How about you heathenoxman will you be with the others?) Same day Bloomingtide: Rhian sends a letter off and reflects Timeline maybe messed up. Please add your inputs so I can update the Timeline.
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Post by Nimlowyn on Aug 25, 2017 1:28:32 GMT
If Lavinia and Cyrus leave the Dales late Cloudreach, they won't arrive at Gwaren until late Bloomingtide at the earliest. They're traveling at least a thousand miles, and through the Frostbacks.
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Post by smilesja on Aug 25, 2017 1:46:49 GMT
So when do you think we should leave?
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Post by Nimlowyn on Aug 25, 2017 1:58:43 GMT
I suggest having Cyrus and Lavinia leave during Cloudreach and arrive in Gwaren during Bloomingtide, along with the others. Because if the action in Gwaren happens in Cloudreach, that would push back Cyrus and Lavinia to leaving in Guardian, during the winter, and that wouldn't make a lot of sense, especially for travel through the Frostbacks. Bloomingtide corresponds to May, so it would still be spring.
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Post by smilesja on Aug 25, 2017 2:13:26 GMT
Okay
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Post by smilesja on Aug 25, 2017 2:42:34 GMT
Any specific day do you want to leave? Nimlowyn
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Post by Nimlowyn on Aug 25, 2017 2:47:03 GMT
Well, the letter that Lavinia gets from Celene indicates that she has to leave that very day (I'm imagining Celene's letters went something like: I need you to do this thing, here's why. Hey, why aren't you answering me? Hello? Okay well this dude named Cyrus is going to come get you at this date and time, I've already made the arrangements, and you're gonna do this thing whether you like it or not). So her staff is busting their butts getting her ready for a lengthy journey while she's meeting Cyrus.
It'd be nice if they could tour the grounds and get to know each other, and leave the next day, but I don't want to hold up other characters and keep the plot from moving forward.
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Post by smilesja on Aug 25, 2017 2:49:31 GMT
Well, the letter that Lavinia gets from Celene indicates that she has to leave that very day (I'm imagining Celene's letters went something like: I need you to do this thing, here's why. Hey, why aren't you answering me? Hello? Okay well this dude named Cyrus is going to come get you at this date and time, I've already made the arrangements, and you're gonna do this thing whether you like it or not). So her staff is busting their butts getting her ready for a lengthy journey while she's meeting Cyrus. It'd be nice if they could tour the grounds and get to know each other, and leave the next day, but I don't want to hold up other characters and keep the plot from moving forward. I think we should interact and get to know each other during the trip. Will that be good Nimlowyn?
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Post by Nimlowyn on Aug 25, 2017 3:42:23 GMT
I'm not foreseeing Lavinia and Cyrus occupying the same carriage; she's going to take her own, since it is more convenient and she doesn't trust Cyrus enough yet to share one. They could interact and get to know each other in the drawing room, and continue to do so in Gwaren. Or, maybe we can have an additional scene on the road, maybe in an Inn or something? What do you think?
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Post by smilesja on Aug 25, 2017 3:53:32 GMT
I'm not foreseeing Lavinia and Cyrus occupying the same carriage; she's going to take her own, since it is more convenient and she doesn't trust Cyrus enough yet to share one. They could interact and get to know each other in the drawing room, and continue to do so in Gwaren. Or, maybe we can have an additional scene on the road, maybe in an Inn or something? What do you think? Sounds like a good idea to me! Let's interact on the drawing room, the road and in an Inn once they arrive Gwaren!
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Post by Nimlowyn on Aug 25, 2017 4:29:13 GMT
Okay; how are you seeing them interacting on the road?
And do the other characters have enough to do while we're traveling?
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Post by smilesja on Aug 25, 2017 4:32:26 GMT
Okay; how are you seeing them interacting on the road? And do the other characters have enough to do while we're traveling? More introductions, and talking about the Teryn himself. Cyrus may talk to Lavinia about getting help against the Qunari. I think they do. I'm going to talk to gervaise21 about it.
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Post by Nimlowyn on Aug 25, 2017 5:10:10 GMT
Okay. I'm picturing talking in an inn as talking 'on the road'. Is that what you're picturing?
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Post by smilesja on Aug 25, 2017 5:20:14 GMT
Okay. I'm picturing talking in an inn as talking 'on the road'. Is that what you're picturing? Yeah close to that.
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Post by opuspace on Aug 25, 2017 7:02:09 GMT
I think we should interact and get to know each other during the trip. Will that be good Nimlowyn? *Ahem*
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Post by NeverlandHunter on Aug 25, 2017 11:16:04 GMT
NimlowynsmilesjaThe only issue I think there possibly is, is the Thedas calendar not matching up as nicely as it could. It's possible, and would be convenient, if both of our calendars having an 8th month called August meant they matched up neatly, but I don't think that's the case. I believe they're ever so slightly off by weeks. From the wiki- 1st month: Verimensis / Wintermarch (Annum: First Day) 2nd month: Pluitanis / Guardian (Annum: Wintersend) 3rd month: Nubulis / Drakonis 4th month: Eluviesta / Cloudreach 5th month: Molioris / Bloomingtide (Annum: Summerday) 6th month: Ferventis / Justinian 7th month: Solis / Solace 8th month: Matrinalis / August (Annum: All Soul's Day) 9th month: Parvulis / Kingsway 10th month: Frumentum / Harvestmere 11th month: Umbralis / Firstfall (Annum: Satinalia) 12th month: Cassus / Haring
The second month's first day is their first day of Spring. Now, their seasons could just work differently, but you still have about three months of Spring before Summer which is in their 5th month. Another three months and there is their August (which has an All Soul's Day) and no doubt marks their beginning of Autumn somewhere during the month. And then three months later you have Firstfall which is the 11th month, but sounds closer to our 12th because it has Satinalia, what I assume to be a Christmas/Yule equivalent. So, I believe their first month of the year starts somewhere during the equivalent of our mid February.
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Post by NeverlandHunter on Aug 25, 2017 15:21:17 GMT
I have posted in the main thread. And originally I was going to skip ahead of some events and just write about previous happenings from a future point, but since Gervaise needs to do a prison break, Nimlowyn and Smilesja some traveling, and I don't know what Heathenoxman will want to do-- I thought I'd stretch my writing out.
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Post by smilesja on Aug 25, 2017 15:42:41 GMT
I'll have a look at the timeline later today.
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Post by Nimlowyn on Aug 25, 2017 18:01:11 GMT
Okay, great. It's looking like Monday will be more realistic for me.
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Post by smilesja on Aug 25, 2017 19:20:47 GMT
Good work heathenoxman just a small correction that the Teryn's building is a Keep rather a Cheteau since they are in Ferelden. Okay, I'm going to do a post about Teryn Jon giving a briefing about the mission. I'm going to assume that heathenoxman is there along with gervaise21 is that fine by you?
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