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Post by Mikado on Jun 30, 2017 18:34:08 GMT
What if Jason Schreier doesn't exist and it's another hoax?
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Post by griffith82 on Jun 30, 2017 18:39:50 GMT
What if Jason Schreier doesn't exist and it's another hoax? I'm beginning to wonder. He clearly has an angenda.
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Post by pdusen on Jun 30, 2017 18:40:04 GMT
You didn't learn your lesson the first time?
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Post by blanks on Jun 30, 2017 18:40:49 GMT
Putting it off until the Fall sure makes it sound like they are waiting to announce a DLC. I am kind of halfway between hoping you guys are right and hoping ME:A goes away quietly. I thought a lot of the memes and criticisms against the game were overblown, but I am kind of hoping the Andromeda/Ryder continuity is dead and the series goes back and just does a hard reboot in the Milky Way. Wasn't a fan of the Kett, don't like the SAM/AI singularity stuff, and I hated leaving behind an entire galaxy's worth of established lore and relationships.
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Post by sageoflife on Jun 30, 2017 18:43:37 GMT
Does he give an actual reason why we should believe him over the hoax, or is this just more clickbait?
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Post by suikoden on Jun 30, 2017 18:43:41 GMT
You didn't learn your lesson the first time?
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Post by pianishimo on Jun 30, 2017 18:43:47 GMT
I'm not sure about DLCs for Andromeda, even if this article is also a hoax.
You can't deny that the main game is still ongoing with patches, technical fixes and support on multiplayer. If a DLC is on the way, it must be released after all the patches and fixes. This is going to take some time.
But Anthem is coming. And now we also have some rumors about the next Dragon Age. Within the next months, Anthem marketing campaign will claim all the attention BioWare wants it to get. And I don't see where a ME:A DLC will fit.
Mass Effect Andromeda was not a success after all. I liked the game, but it clearly has some flaws.
Of course I hope we will get DLCs. Absolutely. But I'm not sure about when. Or if we will.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2017 18:44:57 GMT
Putting it off until the Fall sure makes it sound like they are waiting to announce a DLC. I am kind of halfway between hoping you guys are right and hoping ME:A goes away quietly. I thought a lot of the memes and criticisms against the game were overblown, but I am kind of hoping the Andromeda/Ryder continuity is dead and the series goes back and just does a hard reboot in the Milky Way. Wasn't a fan of the Kett, don't like the SAM/AI singularity stuff, and I hated leaving behind an entire galaxy's worth of established lore and relationships. I completely respect that.
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Post by flyingovertrout on Jun 30, 2017 18:45:41 GMT
You know, from a company that follow strict NDA's from EA, they sure are some devs who "confirm" no DLC's are coming up on short notice. And only to him. Nothing to IGN, GameInformer, Gamestop or other mainstream site. Just to him at Kotaku. Never trust anonymous sources when they come just from one media outlet, especially when they don't give out any details nor specifics. Gaming press media is a disgrace. Journalists have to cultivate sources. Unless someone has a beef with their bosses and wants to leak something to the public no matter what, sources don't make themselves available to just anyone. Clearly some BW people like Jason and he's earned their trust, so they'll tell him some things off record, which is something he had to actively work at. It's not an innately suspicious thing at all, for just one media outlet to have exclusive sources. If those other outlets are worth their salt, they'll also have sources that can confirm or deny. But that's on them, not Jason. And giving out details/specifics pretty much defeats the purpose of being anonymous (anonymous to the public, not the the reporter and often his/her editor).
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Post by griffith82 on Jun 30, 2017 18:46:45 GMT
Does he give an actual reason why we should believe him over the hoax, or is this just more clickbait? Click bait.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2017 18:49:13 GMT
Sinclair Networks = obvious scam Jason = legit gaming journalist who knows lots of industry people and has good insider reporting record, who certainly has contacts at Bioware since he interviewed devs there not too long ago SN being a hoax =/= Jason being wrong If Jason turns out to be wrong, it won't be because of maliciousness/clicks/out to personally get MEA fans (of which I'm one). Sometimes sources just get things wrong. He's only relaying what he's told. He's good enough at his job that he wouldn't write anything that he didn't corroborate with more than just a single source (which is how this works in journalism) and didn't have high confidence in. His rep is on the line, after all. And intentionally making shit up would get his boss Stephen Totillo to fire his ass in a heartbeat. News bums me out but just because I don't want to hear it, doesn't mean it's not true. Therein lies FAEK NOOZ madness. His "sources" at this point, however, may be putting a lot more on the line than reputation. After such a hoax broke, I find it almost inconceivable that anyone a Bioware would immediately run to Jason a second time just to confirm no DLC (say, in case Bioware launched a police investigation into the hoax itself). In addition, there is no new information in that article that wasn't in Jason's first one. Jason's second rant about his article already shows that he's hyper-defensive about the whole issue (something that is also unbecoming of a professional reporter). That rant alone risked his reputation and now coming back with this article only makes him appear more desperate and defensive. If he wants to be perceived as a professional reporter... he really needs to start acting like one. Time will tell whether he's right or wrong.
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Post by Conquer Your Dreams on Jun 30, 2017 18:49:39 GMT
I'm not sure about DLCs for Andromeda, even if this article is also a hoax. You can't deny that the main game is still ongoing with patches, technical fixes and support on multiplayer. If a DLC is on the way, it must be released after all the patches and fixes. This is going to take some time. But Anthem is coming. And now we also have some rumors about the next Dragon Age. Within the next months, Anthem marketing campaign will claim all the attention BioWare wants it to get. And I don't see where a ME:A DLC will fit. Mass Effect Andromeda was not a success after all. I liked the game, but it clearly has some flaws. Of course I hope we will get DLCs. Absolutely. But I'm not sure about when. Or if we will. You're right. The last thing which Anthem marketing campaign needs, is a shadow of MEA...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2017 18:51:33 GMT
Sinclair Networks = obvious scam Jason = legit gaming journalist who knows lots of industry people and has good insider reporting record, who certainly has contacts at Bioware since he interviewed devs there not too long ago SN being a hoax =/= Jason being wrong If Jason turns out to be wrong, it won't be because of maliciousness/clicks/out to personally get MEA fans (of which I'm one). Sometimes sources just get things wrong. He's only relaying what he's told. He's good enough at his job that he wouldn't write anything that he didn't corroborate with more than just a single source (which is how this works in journalism) and didn't have high confidence in. His rep is on the line, after all. And intentionally making shit up would get his boss Stephen Totillo to fire his ass in a heartbeat. News bums me out but just because I don't want to hear it, doesn't mean it's not true. Therein lies FAEK NOOZ madness. His "sources" at this point, however, may be putting a lot more on the line that reputation. After such a hoax broke, I find it almost inconceivable that anyone a Bioware would immediately run to Jason a second time just to confirm no DLC. There is no new information in that article that wasn't in Jason's first one. Jason's second rant about his article already shows that he's hyper-defensive about the whole issue (something that is also unbecoming of a professional reporter). That rant alone risked his reputation and now coming back with this article only makes him appear more desperate and defensive. If he wants to be perceived as a professional reporter... he really needs to start acting like one. Time will tell whether he's right or wrong. Even if he's right, his behavior is not going to help him in the future. Deja vu! I said the exact same thing when I thought SN was real!
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Post by Croatsky on Jun 30, 2017 18:53:23 GMT
You know, from a company that follow strict NDA's from EA, they sure are some devs who "confirm" no DLC's are coming up on short notice. And only to him. Nothing to IGN, GameInformer, Gamestop or other mainstream site. Just to him at Kotaku. Never trust anonymous sources when they come just from one media outlet, especially when they don't give out any details nor specifics. Gaming press media is a disgrace. Journalists have to cultivate sources. Unless someone has a beef with their bosses and wants to leak something to the public no matter what, sources don't make themselves available to just anyone. Clearly some BW people like Jason and he's earned their trust, so they'll tell him some things off record, which is something he had to actively work at. It's not an innately suspicious thing at all, for just one media outlet to have exclusive sources. If those other outlets are worth their salt, they'll also have sources that can confirm or deny. But that's on them, not Jason. And giving out details/specifics pretty much defeats the purpose of being anonymous (anonymous to the public, not the the reporter and often his/her editor). He got tons of details to deliver for troubled development of Destiny and ME:A. But nothing more then his word "my sources said so, trust me" over ME:A DLC line up, while backtracking and covering his ass in case of him being wrong. While at same time being super defensive and passive aggressive, something that he wasn't doing when his previous stories were released. He's being shady as shit on this instance.
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Post by colfoley on Jun 30, 2017 18:54:10 GMT
And today we discover the MEA novel 'Annihilation' (working title "The Lost Ark") releases September 1st. Hmmm... well that's interesting. I suppose it's possible to just release the novel and not dlc...but i doubt it.
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Post by Iakus on Jun 30, 2017 18:55:34 GMT
Does he give an actual reason why we should believe him over the hoax, or is this just more clickbait? "unnamed sources"
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Post by sageoflife on Jun 30, 2017 18:56:01 GMT
Didn't the hoax prompt an actual Bioware employee to say when we could expect news? Or did I misunderstand that?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2017 18:57:05 GMT
Didn't the hoax prompt an actual Bioware employee to say when we could expect news? Or did I misunderstand that? The producer said they make their own DLC and when they can talk about future stuff they will, plus Ian said that SN saying story DLC was cancelled was weird.
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Post by tacsear on Jun 30, 2017 19:01:42 GMT
Wasn't this kinda obvious after all the other news surrounding Montreal studio?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2017 19:02:48 GMT
His "sources" at this point, however, may be putting a lot more on the line that reputation. After such a hoax broke, I find it almost inconceivable that anyone a Bioware would immediately run to Jason a second time just to confirm no DLC. There is no new information in that article that wasn't in Jason's first one. Jason's second rant about his article already shows that he's hyper-defensive about the whole issue (something that is also unbecoming of a professional reporter). That rant alone risked his reputation and now coming back with this article only makes him appear more desperate and defensive. If he wants to be perceived as a professional reporter... he really needs to start acting like one. Time will tell whether he's right or wrong. Even if he's right, his behavior is not going to help him in the future. Deja vu! I said the exact same thing when I thought SN was real! True enough... he may have shot himself permanently in the foot with this one even if he's right. His behavior has been truly unprofessional (IMHO, of course).
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Post by flyingovertrout on Jun 30, 2017 19:02:57 GMT
Sinclair Networks = obvious scam Jason = legit gaming journalist who knows lots of industry people and has good insider reporting record, who certainly has contacts at Bioware since he interviewed devs there not too long ago SN being a hoax =/= Jason being wrong If Jason turns out to be wrong, it won't be because of maliciousness/clicks/out to personally get MEA fans (of which I'm one). Sometimes sources just get things wrong. He's only relaying what he's told. He's good enough at his job that he wouldn't write anything that he didn't corroborate with more than just a single source (which is how this works in journalism) and didn't have high confidence in. His rep is on the line, after all. And intentionally making shit up would get his boss Stephen Totillo to fire his ass in a heartbeat. News bums me out but just because I don't want to hear it, doesn't mean it's not true. Therein lies FAEK NOOZ madness. His "sources" at this point, however, may be putting a lot more on the line that reputation. After such a hoax broke, I find it almost inconceivable that anyone a Bioware would immediately run to Jason a second time just to confirm no DLC. There is no new information in that article that wasn't in Jason's first one. Jason's second rant about his article already shows that he's hyper-defensive about the whole issue (something that is also unbecoming of a professional reporter). That rant alone risked his reputation and now coming back with this article only makes him appear more desperate and defensive. If he wants to be perceived as a professional reporter... he really needs to start acting like one. Time will tell whether he's right or wrong. Because you find something incredulous, doesn't mean it's not real. Jason did his job by rechecking with his sources to make sure he wasn't making a wrong assumption. That was the correct thing to do. Getting a confirmation is not the same thing as providing "no new information." Jason never ranted. He never risked his reputation outside of BSN. That's pretty much a lame ad hominem, trying to paint him as unhinged and amateurish. For a guy who's gotten death threats for reporting a game delay, it'll probably take a lot more than our reaction to rattle him. And standing by your reporting =/= being defensive. It's what professional reporters do.
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Post by pianishimo on Jun 30, 2017 19:03:07 GMT
I'm not sure about DLCs for Andromeda, even if this article is also a hoax. You can't deny that the main game is still ongoing with patches, technical fixes and support on multiplayer. If a DLC is on the way, it must be released after all the patches and fixes. This is going to take some time. But Anthem is coming. And now we also have some rumors about the next Dragon Age. Within the next months, Anthem marketing campaign will claim all the attention BioWare wants it to get. And I don't see where a ME:A DLC will fit. Mass Effect Andromeda was not a success after all. I liked the game, but it clearly has some flaws. Of course I hope we will get DLCs. Absolutely. But I'm not sure about when. Or if we will. You're right. The last thing which Anthem marketing campaign needs, is a shadow of MEA... I really want this game to have DLCs and a sequel in the future, but we can't deny the very truth that ME:A has a lot to be improved. I have all the hopes up for Anthem, it seems to be a fine game. But I have this constantly feeling that ME:A is being burried, quietly. Wich's very sad. I have no idea if this article is a hoax, or if the writer is trustable, but the game industry is like that.
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Post by flyingovertrout on Jun 30, 2017 19:03:50 GMT
His "sources" at this point, however, may be putting a lot more on the line that reputation. After such a hoax broke, I find it almost inconceivable that anyone a Bioware would immediately run to Jason a second time just to confirm no DLC. There is no new information in that article that wasn't in Jason's first one. Jason's second rant about his article already shows that he's hyper-defensive about the whole issue (something that is also unbecoming of a professional reporter). That rant alone risked his reputation and now coming back with this article only makes him appear more desperate and defensive. If he wants to be perceived as a professional reporter... he really needs to start acting like one. Time will tell whether he's right or wrong. Even if he's right, his behavior is not going to help him in the future. Deja vu! I said the exact same thing when I thought SN was real! What behavior?
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Post by colfoley on Jun 30, 2017 19:04:14 GMT
Wouldn't it be awesome if this story dlc ever release then bioware should center it on a theme of hope. You know like IYHSB from DAI distilled into one dlc.
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