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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2017 19:04:33 GMT
Even if he's right, his behavior is not going to help him in the future. Deja vu! I said the exact same thing when I thought SN was real! What behavior? He's print screening us here and posting it on his Twitter.
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Post by vonuber on Jun 30, 2017 19:04:40 GMT
And standing by your reporting =/= being defensive. It's what professional reporters do. Does that also include screenshotting fan forums and gloating over the reaction?
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Post by OdanUrr on Jun 30, 2017 19:05:39 GMT
Let's hope EA/BioWare debunk this... but I doubt they will.
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Post by Pokemario on Jun 30, 2017 19:06:50 GMT
Ugh. BioWare, please come out and silence these rumors once and for all. Please.
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Post by flyingovertrout on Jun 30, 2017 19:06:55 GMT
Journalists have to cultivate sources. Unless someone has a beef with their bosses and wants to leak something to the public no matter what, sources don't make themselves available to just anyone. Clearly some BW people like Jason and he's earned their trust, so they'll tell him some things off record, which is something he had to actively work at. It's not an innately suspicious thing at all, for just one media outlet to have exclusive sources. If those other outlets are worth their salt, they'll also have sources that can confirm or deny. But that's on them, not Jason. And giving out details/specifics pretty much defeats the purpose of being anonymous (anonymous to the public, not the the reporter and often his/her editor). He got tons of details to deliver for troubled development of Destiny and ME:A. But nothing more then his word "my sources said so, trust me" over ME:A DLC line up, while backtracking and covering his ass in case of him being wrong. While at same time being super defensive and passive aggressive, something that he wasn't doing when his previous stories were released. He's being shady as shit on this instance. Lol k. Have fun tilting at windmills, guys. I guess some of us just need to channel our anxieties at a Bad Guy. What better punchbag bag than the messenger?
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Post by colfoley on Jun 30, 2017 19:07:47 GMT
Let's hope EA/BioWare debunk this... but I doubt they will. they will in early August when they trailer drops.
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Post by blanks on Jun 30, 2017 19:07:56 GMT
Why should it matter that he's taking screenshots of a public forum?
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Post by sageoflife on Jun 30, 2017 19:08:58 GMT
He got tons of details to deliver for troubled development of Destiny and ME:A. But nothing more then his word "my sources said so, trust me" over ME:A DLC line up, while backtracking and covering his ass in case of him being wrong. While at same time being super defensive and passive aggressive, something that he wasn't doing when his previous stories were released. He's being shady as shit on this instance. Lol k. Have fun tilting at windmills, guys. I guess some of us just need to channel our anxieties at a Bad Guy. What better punchbag bag than the messenger? Or maybe we're just engaged in critical thinking instead of taking unsourced claims at face value.
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Post by flyingovertrout on Jun 30, 2017 19:09:47 GMT
He's print screening us here and posting it on his Twitter. Well yeah. Our reactions are pretty fascinating. At least no death threats yet.
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Post by OdanUrr on Jun 30, 2017 19:10:10 GMT
Let's hope EA/BioWare debunk this... but I doubt they will. they will in early August when they trailer drops. Did your sources tell you that?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2017 19:11:16 GMT
His "sources" at this point, however, may be putting a lot more on the line that reputation. After such a hoax broke, I find it almost inconceivable that anyone a Bioware would immediately run to Jason a second time just to confirm no DLC. There is no new information in that article that wasn't in Jason's first one. Jason's second rant about his article already shows that he's hyper-defensive about the whole issue (something that is also unbecoming of a professional reporter). That rant alone risked his reputation and now coming back with this article only makes him appear more desperate and defensive. If he wants to be perceived as a professional reporter... he really needs to start acting like one. Time will tell whether he's right or wrong. Because you find something incredulous, doesn't mean it's not real. Jason did his job by rechecking with his sources to make sure he wasn't making a wrong assumption. That was the correct thing to do. Getting a confirmation is not the same thing as providing "no new information." Jason never ranted. He never risked his reputation outside of BSN. That's pretty much a lame ad hominem, trying to paint him as unhinged and amateurish. For a guy who's gotten death threats for reporting a game delay, it'll probably take a lot more than our reaction to rattle him. And standing by your reporting =/= being defensive. It's what professional reporters do. If he confirmed with his sources fine... but it didn't require a second article just to say that. Bioware did not expressly state that there would be DLC, so in many respects, Jason's first article was not put into question by this hoax being revealed as a hoax. He's made things worse by coming back with such a defensive position on his original article both times. Professional reporters know how to take the heat and not succumb to it. He's not behaving anything like a professional reporter. His best move for his reputation would have been just to have written the original article, confirmed his sources privately when the hoax appeared (so he knows they weren't part of that hoax) and just left his original article stand. If he's right, it will be eventually proven right. If he were confident of that, then he would not be so defensive about it all. The furor surrounding him - he has brought upon himself, first by ranting defensively on social media and now by publishing this article... which does not contain any more actual information than the first one.
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Post by flyingovertrout on Jun 30, 2017 19:11:35 GMT
Lol k. Have fun tilting at windmills, guys. I guess some of us just need to channel our anxieties at a Bad Guy. What better punchbag bag than the messenger? Or maybe we're just engaged in critical thinking instead of taking unsourced claims at face value. Oh I'm sure that's what you believe this is.
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Post by colfoley on Jun 30, 2017 19:11:51 GMT
they will in early August when they trailer drops. Did your sources tell you that? nah my time lord intuition.
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Post by MissOuJ on Jun 30, 2017 19:14:10 GMT
If this is true... well, shit. And the guy who wrote the article commented on the ME Reddit that he wouldn't have published unless he was very confident it was true. Honestly, the future of the ME franchise looks really bleak ATM
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Post by luketrevelyan on Jun 30, 2017 19:16:27 GMT
Oh crap. Didn't we have enough drama yesterday?
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on Jun 30, 2017 19:17:55 GMT
Did your sources tell you that? nah my time lord intuition. I'm speculating with 90% certainty that you're right. Applying for Associated Press credentials based on this... Denied. Dang it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2017 19:18:08 GMT
Oh crap. Didn't we have enough drama yesterday? It's even worse in the hoax thread.
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Post by cypherj on Jun 30, 2017 19:19:52 GMT
If this article had been about DLC being in the works citing unnamed sources I wonder how many people would be questioning the sources.
There have been three articles from the site.
1) Andromeda is going on Hiatus... Reaction - Attacking the reporter, asking that sources be named, and statements confirmed by Bioware, general denial
2) Troubled Development.. Reaction - That makes sense, it explains a lot, so the game realy only had 18-24 months development, 5 years, general acceptance, general acceptance
3) No SP DLC... Reaction - Attacking the reporter, asking for sources to be named, general denial
I said this yesterday. The sources for all these stories have to be the same people. Either they're credible and they know what they're talking about or they're not. Either you can take the word of unnamed sources, or you can't. It can't be both.
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Post by Giant Ambush Beetle on Jun 30, 2017 19:19:56 GMT
Why should it matter that he's taking screenshots of a public forum? I don't know, its a weird fetish but certainly not the weirdest.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2017 19:20:43 GMT
Oh crap. Didn't we have enough drama yesterday? Yeah, but yesterday's was way more interesting and creative. With a pinch of international flavour. I mean, Austria, neatoooo. A source in BioWare told me a few days ago that even Jade Empire can come back, you know. And, a perfectly credible national network in Canada yesterday ran a story how Montreal has a booming technological sector, reducing unemployment rate something fierce in the last couple of years, because Montreal is so creative and special. Obv, Andromeda is on.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2017 19:21:55 GMT
Oh crap. Didn't we have enough drama yesterday? I don't know about you guys, but I'm highly entertained right now. I haven't laughed this hard all week. This isn't drama, it's comedy gold.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2017 19:22:34 GMT
Oh crap. Didn't we have enough drama yesterday? I don't know about you guys, but I'm highly entertained right now. I haven't laughed this hard all week. This isn't drama, it's comedy gold. Yeah the whole Suikoden thing just flipped things right over.
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Post by malgus on Jun 30, 2017 19:23:51 GMT
Oh crap. Didn't we have enough drama yesterday? I don't know about you guys, but I'm highly entertained right now. I haven't laughed this hard all week. This isn't drama, it's comedy gold. yeah its like too many things are happening at the same time... I wanted to go play MEA multiplayer, But i cannot go there its just way too entertaining here, I mean what is next...
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Post by vonuber on Jun 30, 2017 19:25:59 GMT
I said this yesterday. The sources for all these stories have to be the same people. Why do they have to be?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2017 19:26:13 GMT
I don't know about you guys, but I'm highly entertained right now. I haven't laughed this hard all week. This isn't drama, it's comedy gold. Yeah the whole Suikoden thing just flipped things right over. Even before that. Going back to when I stumbled onto his article some hours ago. It was just posted and the hoax nonsense was still being processed by many. Timing is just weird.
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