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Post by sil on Jun 30, 2017 20:32:59 GMT
He kind of looks like David Cameron to me.
Which isn't a compliment.
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Post by brandoftime on Jun 30, 2017 20:33:04 GMT
It's weird he would screen cap this site and talk about us, taking it personally?
He acts like a troll, doing this. Please let's all just try and ignore this guy.
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Post by Croatsky on Jun 30, 2017 20:33:39 GMT
Beware, jason might tweet about this posts... Oh no, my worst nightmare!
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Post by Monica21 on Jun 30, 2017 20:34:11 GMT
*waves* hi again Jason! It's @upupaway95 's turn! I don't know whether this guy's reporting is accurate or not, but so far he just seems like a huge douche.
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Post by flyingovertrout on Jun 30, 2017 20:34:59 GMT
The only fanboyism I'm struggling with right now is my MEA fanboyism. I'm not particularly happy about this news. But again, just because I don't like it, doesn't mean it's bullshit. Conversely, it doesn't make it true either. Look, ultimately this all tracks back to the sinclair hoax. There were a few off-hand comments about Jason's articles simply because he's the only one with a high profile on the matter, but its ultimately been focused on how this 'source' was able to push stories out without being questioned when it turned out it was a load of fluff. The only real reason Jason is being discussed here is that he's done another 'LOOK AT ME' response then did this bizarre thing on twitter. The whole 'shoot the messenger' ship has sailed here. "Sinclair Networks" has nothing to do with his sources. You're conflating the two totally separate things. SN was amateur hour. No one with a functioning brain stem should've fallen for that, much less a journalist who has demonstrably real connections to major gaming studios, including Bioware itself. Right--conversely, it doesn't make it true... But that's when Jason's strong record of reporting leaks comes into play. There's nothing really bizarre about a reporter doing their due diligence. From what I've gathered, people questioned his confidence that there was no DLC development (well okay, some people also questioned his sanity/professionalism/credibility/manhood/right to exist, but you can't help those people), he wanted to make sure he wasn't assuming wrongly, rechecked with sources, then wrote about getting a specific confirmation. The twitter thing is him clearly fascinated by the rationalizations and personal attacks. We're kind of a sad petri dish of nerdery that deserves some gawking at. I'm trying to be objective, and I see that Jason has earned the benefit of the doubt, though I'd be super thrilled if he was wrong (and still holding diminishing hope that he is). Even if I found Jason to be the Worst Person EVAR, his record is what it is. Who he is and how he behaves on facacta social media has jackshit to do with anything (not that I think he's acted weird at all). I don't think it's bad that people are skeptical, but a lot of this has gone beyond reasonable skepticism and straight into denialism, and even a bit of conspiracy theory quackery and malicious lies.
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Post by ShadowAngel on Jun 30, 2017 20:37:23 GMT
It's weird he would screen cap this site and talk about us, taking it personally? He acts like a troll, doing this. Please let's all just try and ignore this guy. Ignoring it hasn't worked for most people since the game has been out, doubt it'd do so now.
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Post by Croatsky on Jun 30, 2017 20:38:06 GMT
It's weird he would screen cap this site and talk about us, taking it personally? He acts like a troll, doing this. Please let's all just try and ignore this guy. He is a high profile gaming press reporter, unfortunately, it's hard to ignore that train-wreck.
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Post by flyingovertrout on Jun 30, 2017 20:38:13 GMT
I understand the skepticism, but isn't it standard for journalists not to reveal sources? I doubt they'd get many people to come forward and volunteer information if they were to disclose who they were and who they worked for. That's why journalists and news sites need to establish credibility with their audience. Is it a responsible news outlet/journalist? Do they have a track record for accurate reporting? I worked as a journalist in the late 1990s and literally everything I wrote was attributed by name to someone. It is only in the last few decades that anonymous sources have become acceptable. Depends on the field. Anonymous sources are the bread and butter of investigative journalism and some consumer (whistleblower) journalism. In human interest stories or product reporting, on the other hand (as random counterexamples), it would be weird as hell.
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Post by malgus on Jun 30, 2017 20:40:59 GMT
*waves* hi again Jason! It's @upupaway95 's turn! I don't know whether this guy's reporting is accurate or not, but so far he just seems like a huge douche. He seems very touchy and unable to accept some people may question him, like we are suppose to take everything he says.
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Post by Monica21 on Jun 30, 2017 20:42:36 GMT
The twitter thing is him clearly fascinated by the rationalizations and personal attacks. We're kind of a sad petri dish of nerdery that deserves some gawking at. Whether we're just a bunch of sad nerds or not, the Twitter thing is incredibly unprofessional.
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Post by Bizo on Jun 30, 2017 20:43:20 GMT
1 word for this: Bullshit Why come with this article after the whole SN debate? Why was he unsure a month ago about the status of the DLC's but now he declares that there won't be any? Also his sources are not even credible. If I want I can create an article tomorrow about how peps at Bioware already started working on the sequel and tell them that i have "inside sources". I will also tell them that I am also secretely a turnip. Didn't even bother to read the whole article, the first pharagraph was enough. Another click-bait article to fuel the movement generated by yesterday's SN debate.
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Post by flyingovertrout on Jun 30, 2017 20:44:04 GMT
Lol. @kirkhamilton is probably his co-caster on that podcast.
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Post by bshep on Jun 30, 2017 20:44:32 GMT
He wants attention boys and girls.
Avoid giving it to him by going on his twitter.
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Post by flyingovertrout on Jun 30, 2017 20:44:38 GMT
The twitter thing is him clearly fascinated by the rationalizations and personal attacks. We're kind of a sad petri dish of nerdery that deserves some gawking at. Whether we're just a bunch of sad nerds or not, the Twitter thing is incredibly unprofessional. Not really.
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Post by smilesja on Jun 30, 2017 20:46:16 GMT
Is Jason still watching us?
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Post by sil on Jun 30, 2017 20:46:31 GMT
He wants attention boys and girls. Avoid giving it to him by going on his twitter. The best thing to do is give him attention but not in the manner he craves it. He craves an emotional bitter response, in part, to feed potential new articles. Don't give him that attention, give him attention by emailing his bosses at Kotaku to alert them to his unprofessional practices. He is getting attention, just not the kind he craves.
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Post by Monica21 on Jun 30, 2017 20:46:35 GMT
Whether we're just a bunch of sad nerds or not, the Twitter thing is incredibly unprofessional. Not really. How is it professional by any definition?
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Post by malgus on Jun 30, 2017 20:48:00 GMT
Is Jason still watching us? probably, the guy seems to be unable to accept that some people may not trust everything he says...
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Post by pianishimo on Jun 30, 2017 20:48:37 GMT
Alright, guys. After two hours this thread has five more pages of people complaining about this journalist or about Kotaku. Or fightning each other about their own opinions. I mean... Take it easy, everyone. What you guys really think about the matter? About the fact that a ME:A DLC seems to be way too far? Of course, and again, this is IMO, but do you guys really think ME:A is getting any DLC so soon when the game have a way to go on patches and fixes? I think you guys have to face the fact that ME:A still have problems to be resolved and this will take time. With Anthem on the way, we may have faith, but I wouldn't bet it at all anymore. We have to accept that I love the franchise, I really want ME:A to get a sequel, REALLY, but lets be a little more sensible to discuss the matter. SofNascimento I don't completely know him or his work, but I agree with you.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2017 20:49:30 GMT
How is it professional by any definition? He's not.
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Post by sageoflife on Jun 30, 2017 20:50:15 GMT
Whether we're just a bunch of sad nerds or not, the Twitter thing is incredibly unprofessional. Not really. You... actually think that it's professional for a journalist to trawl a fan forum so he can post screenshots on Twitter just because people aren't taking what he says as gospel? Are you a poe?
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Post by blanks on Jun 30, 2017 20:50:20 GMT
I understand the skepticism, but isn't it standard for journalists not to reveal sources? I doubt they'd get many people to come forward and volunteer information if they were to disclose who they were and who they worked for. That's why journalists and news sites need to establish credibility with their audience. Is it a responsible news outlet/journalist? Do they have a track record for accurate reporting? I worked as a journalist in the late 1990s and literally everything I wrote was attributed by name to someone. It is only in the last few decades that anonymous sources have become acceptable. This is a dumb post in a thread with many of them. Literally read a history book.
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Post by merlinistyle on Jun 30, 2017 20:50:24 GMT
He is posing in front of his Twitter Fans, trying to keep the hype and not to loose integrity as time passes. "Look, they are opposing, they hate me. They dont like the truth! I am right! Hate them, my precious Fans, my valorous faithful followers. They are unworthy and want to shake the ground, we are standing on. Off with their Heads!"
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Post by flyingovertrout on Jun 30, 2017 20:51:03 GMT
How is it professional by any definition? Neither professional nor unprofessional. Welcome to journalists as humans, people who are internet savvy enough to read forums and post their opinions/thoughts/observations/targets of wry amusement on social media.
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