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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2017 23:43:09 GMT
Proof? Also, still genetic fallacy. Took me five minutes. Don't and never trust anyone who supports and still supports GamerGate. Mombotxs also transphobic. That is not harassment, certainly not in a legal definition. All I see here is criticisms and some vitriol. Care to share you definition of "harassment?"
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Post by Nord Ronnoc on Jul 20, 2017 23:52:57 GMT
Took me five minutes. Don't and never trust anyone who supports and still supports GamerGate. Mombotxs also transphobic. That is not harassment, certainly not in a legal definition. All I see here is criticisms and some vitriol. Care to share you definition of "harassment?" FFS. Were you expecting to get a medal in mental gymnastics? Consider yourself blocked.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2017 23:58:44 GMT
That is not harassment, certainly not in a legal definition. All I see here is criticisms and some vitriol. Care to share you definition of "harassment?" FFS. Were you expecting to get a medal in mental gymnastics? Consider yourself blocked. Ok? Regardless, disregarding a source based on your personal feelings about said source is the definition of genetic fallacy. This type of practice isn't uncommon and Target gets tax breaks for donating stock to Goodwill. I would say this tweet is misrepresentation the facts but ignoring it because of a stance taken against the source is genetic fallacy. I dunno what I even said to earn a block, lul.
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Post by Andrew Waples on Jul 21, 2017 0:03:44 GMT
That is not harassment, certainly not in a legal definition. All I see here is criticisms and some vitriol. Care to share you definition of "harassment?" FFS. Were you expecting to get a medal in mental gymnastics? Consider yourself blocked. Guys, lets focus on #SavingtheQuarians please.
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Post by Nord Ronnoc on Jul 21, 2017 0:05:38 GMT
FFS. Were you expecting to get a medal in mental gymnastics? Consider yourself blocked. Guys, lets focus on #SavingtheQuarians please. Aside from derailing the thread, there really isn't much to talk about.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2017 0:07:35 GMT
FFS. Were you expecting to get a medal in mental gymnastics? Consider yourself blocked. Guys, lets focus on #SavingtheQuarians please. Thread is pretty dead, tbh. No news of DLC either way, but I suppose no news is good news.
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Post by kino on Jul 21, 2017 1:11:27 GMT
Huh. I was reviewing the EA investor call from FY17 (what? I'm an old fart working on an MBA, leave me alone) and I saw this from the transcript of the call; " New multiplayer content is continued to be released, and new content kind of arriving overall more regularly." In and of itself it's a little obscure but it does sound like EA management is talking about more than MP related content. So there's hope to be had, for certain.
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Post by smilesja on Jul 21, 2017 1:16:12 GMT
Huh. I was reviewing the EA investor call from FY17 (what? I'm an old fart working on an MBA, leave me alone) and I saw this from the transcript of the call; " New multiplayer content is continued to be released, and new content kind of arriving overall more regularly." In and of itself it's a little obscure but it does sound like EA management is talking about more than MP related content. So there's hope to be had, for certain. Is it possible?
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Post by kino on Jul 21, 2017 1:19:27 GMT
Huh. I was reviewing the EA investor call from FY17 (what? I'm an old fart working on an MBA, leave me alone) and I saw this from the transcript of the call; " New multiplayer content is continued to be released, and new content kind of arriving overall more regularly." In and of itself it's a little obscure but it does sound like EA management is talking about more than MP related content. So there's hope to be had, for certain. Is it possible? I know, it's a statement that could literally be the definition of "obscure" but it does lead to some interesting speculation. Hell, I'll even add this; EA wasn't totally happy with the response to ME:A. They also weren't totally unhappy with the response, either.
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Post by Nord Ronnoc on Jul 21, 2017 6:45:49 GMT
I know, it's a statement that could literally be the definition of "obscure" but it does lead to some interesting speculation. Hell, I'll even add this; EA wasn't totally happy with the response to ME:A. They also weren't totally unhappy with the response, either. In other words, "It could've been better, but we're satisfied nonetheless."
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Post by kino on Jul 21, 2017 6:49:09 GMT
I know, it's a statement that could literally be the definition of "obscure" but it does lead to some interesting speculation. Hell, I'll even add this; EA wasn't totally happy with the response to ME:A. They also weren't totally unhappy with the response, either. In other words, "It could've been better, but we're satisfied nonetheless." Bingo. Exactly my interpretation as well.
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on Jul 21, 2017 6:56:35 GMT
I know, it's a statement that could literally be the definition of "obscure" but it does lead to some interesting speculation. Hell, I'll even add this; EA wasn't totally happy with the response to ME:A. They also weren't totally unhappy with the response, either. Right. If I'm EA... I want maximum returns. Short of that? Not happy. That's life, but it's not a failure. The launch was a miserable mess and EA's PR and Marketing sucked. They're the real problem and I certainly hope those idiots that signed off on this are gone. Too much talent is located in Edmonton, Montreal and Austin to be showcased by a bunch of overpaid, incompetent morons. They blew it. They f***ing blew it and now we have a great game that is polished being torn apart by losers. I don't blame Suikoden and MajesticJazz... they're opportunists looking to get their kicks from bashing Andromeda. Seriously, if I just read a post from either Dumb and Dumber critiquing the game with actual gameplay, I would be fine. But no... it's bullcrap. Thank you EA for your stupendous marketing scheme. (takes a deep drag...) "merde."
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Post by smilesja on Jul 21, 2017 6:57:50 GMT
So with EA scheduled to appear at the Gamescon conference. Do you think DLC will be announced?
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Post by qwib on Jul 21, 2017 14:49:14 GMT
So with EA scheduled to appear at the Gamescon conference. Do you think DLC will be announced? If not, I hop in my car and drive there to riot. But srsly though, I think they are going to show more of Anthem. That's my prediction.
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Post by Eleonora on Jul 21, 2017 14:57:27 GMT
According to this article they're not going to show Anthem at Gamescon, but they're focusing on games that are released this year. That makes me cautiously optimistic.
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Post by majesticjazz on Jul 21, 2017 14:58:59 GMT
According to this article they're not going to show Anthem at Gamescon, but they're focusing on games that are released this year. That makes me cautiously optimistic. And those games are: Star Wars Battlefront II Need for Speed Payback FIFA 18 Battlefield 1: In the Name of the Tsar Various mobile games
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Post by Eleonora on Jul 21, 2017 15:05:07 GMT
According to this article they're not going to show Anthem at Gamescon, but they're focusing on games that are released this year. That makes me cautiously optimistic. And those games are: Star Wars Battlefront II Need for Speed Payback FIFA 18 Battlefield 1: In the Name of the Tsar Various mobile games Those are the games "attendees will be able to go hands-on with", quoting the article. It's most likely not everything they're going to be showing there, if I'm including the "surprises" comment.
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Post by majesticjazz on Jul 21, 2017 15:06:12 GMT
And those games are: Star Wars Battlefront II Need for Speed Payback FIFA 18 Battlefield 1: In the Name of the Tsar Various mobile games Those are the games "attendees will be able to go hands-on with", quoting the article. It's most likely not everything they're going to be showing there, if I'm including the "surprises" comment. Dragon Age 4?
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Post by qwib on Jul 21, 2017 15:09:13 GMT
According to this article they're not going to show Anthem at Gamescon, but they're focusing on games that are released this year. That makes me cautiously optimistic. Cool find, I didn't know that.
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Post by Eleonora on Jul 21, 2017 15:11:32 GMT
Those are the games "attendees will be able to go hands-on with", quoting the article. It's most likely not everything they're going to be showing there, if I'm including the "surprises" comment. Dragon Age 4? Could be (would be a welcome surprise as well). But I'm not completely dismissing Andromeda yet. Why not both?
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Post by kino on Jul 21, 2017 15:16:57 GMT
So with EA scheduled to appear at the Gamescon conference. Do you think DLC will be announced? I think they'll be showing off SW:BF2 more than anything at GamesCom. It's one of their next big releases for the year. Since it's in Europe they'll probably have the next FIFA on hand as well.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2017 16:28:28 GMT
That's exactly the point. I don't, can't, won't believe that BW is using that NDA to mislead their customers and make them thinking there is still content to be released just to sell a bunch of extra copies. That's so short-sighted that I can't believe they would be doing that. These are the two options: 1)Either the NDA is in place to announce something later 2) or the NDA is there to avoid telling us that they aren't working on DLC so to postpone the backlash now and sell a couple of extra copies. Implicitly leaving your customers to believe additional content is on development when it's not. These are the two scenarios. The first one sound logical and ethical. The second one instead would achieve very little for the great PR loss that would cause as: a)you won't avoid the backlash which will become even larger when the lack of additional content become apparent b)ultimately you'll sell less copies than you would had BW provided more DLCs c)you lose credibility and alienate those people that actually bought and enjoyed your game. Assuming an ethical business approach I simply can't understand what would be the motives of BW hiding lack of content for this game. Had they come out immediately and said that no there is not going to be more content, I think everyone would have appreciated the honesty albeit with great displeasure. We shall see. At the end of the day I base my thoughts on future DLC on the basis that it's EA. EA loves it's DLC. From a financial bottom line they would be dense not to. Each DLC is around $20 of revenue. As I understand it DLC is much easier to make, takes less time, less people so what you invest in it for what you get back makes it effective to make with higher profits. There's no logical reason to no make it unless sales were that abysmal (meaning so few have the game that only those numbers would be people getting DLC). With that in mind though, even companies like capcom made DLC for Dragon's Dogma (Dark Arisen dungeon) and those sales were about a million total IIRC. With a million in sales, even only 5% brings 50,000 sales that at $20 for each sale gives a million in revenue. That's an absurdly low estimate of the sales and percent that would buy that one DLC. Right now they are actively giving a push to the game by giving free trials. That can only serve to bolster sales and increase DLC sales. If they do two or three dlc that's a few million more in revenue.
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Post by smilesja on Jul 21, 2017 17:47:38 GMT
No ME: A at gamescon
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