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Post by Uchimura on Jul 7, 2017 3:14:51 GMT
Had a hunch that there was some weighting as far as how variants are dropped. Billy posted this in a thread on Reddit, but since those usually get buried, I thought I'd post it here.
Another post in the thread:
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Post by RonnieBlastoff on Jul 7, 2017 3:19:44 GMT
This is very interesting, cause from what I can tell, the variants are level X weapons. So if there is a small chance for one to drop, then that means you basically skip the whole I-X and get a level X with a added perk?
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Post by konfeta on Jul 7, 2017 3:51:41 GMT
Well, you skip it, but you still have to deal with the now worthless I-X regular drops stealing your money.
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Post by Kenny Bania on Jul 7, 2017 3:52:34 GMT
Well, you skip it, but you still have to deal with the now worthless I-X regular drops stealing your money. Exactly. Just boneheaded all round.
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Post by f3rociouspanda on Jul 7, 2017 4:08:46 GMT
Yeah my rares were maxed before today, I spent 2 million and only have the batarian at rank 1...
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Post by Kenny Bania on Jul 7, 2017 4:10:20 GMT
I assumed he was referring to weapons only, and the weighting applying to variants of an individual weapon.
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Post by JuggerNuggss on Jul 7, 2017 4:15:50 GMT
I swear, yall can bitch about anything. The game mostly was a flop, be happy we are getting some new things still. The Batarian is awesome. Some of the "new" weapons I've tried are pretty cool too. Mee personally, i was tired of dropping 100k on a pack and getting 5 blue cards. At least now im getting somethin from them. People wanted challenge and Platinum is pretty challenging. Aside from the timer on Devices, everything seems pretty fair.
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Post by Terminator Force on Jul 7, 2017 4:29:33 GMT
Yeah, I played all day and just now finally got a Batarian. After getting Salarian Architect and another to level 15, and a few more character cards for all other Gold characters I already had at X, of course.
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Post by Darth Lod on Jul 7, 2017 6:26:37 GMT
I swear, yall can bitch about anything. The game mostly was a flop, be happy we are getting some new things still. The Batarian is awesome. Right, maybe the Batarian is awesome. But, that's assuming you ever even get one. I have been playing this game since it came out and it refuses to give me even one Human Keneticist, even though I have ALL characters maxed out except a few Ultra-Rares. I have suspected for quite some time that Bioware set it up so that one random character in the roster never drops so that you are suckered into buying packs in hopes to ever getting it. I have heard and talked to other people in the same situation I am in. They have everything and maxed but Ultra-Rares, but the game refuses to give them one character at all.
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Post by lennybusker on Jul 7, 2017 6:36:57 GMT
I swear, yall can bitch about anything. The game mostly was a flop, be happy we are getting some new things still. The Batarian is awesome. Right, maybe the Batarian is awesome. But, that's assuming you ever even get one. I have been playing this game since it came out and it refuses to give me even one Human Keneticist, even though I have ALL characters maxed out except a few Ultra-Rares. I have suspected for quite some time that Bioware set it up so that one random character in the roster never drops so that you are suckered into buying packs in hopes to ever getting it. I have heard and talked to other people in the same situation I am in. They have everything and maxed but Ultra-Rares, but the game refuses to give them one character at all. Plenty of people have maxed out purely on credits, no AndromedaBux spent. Were I not lazy I could run the odds for you to have unlocked all URs except Kineticst I. It's low, but not unfathomably low.
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Post by Uchimura on Jul 7, 2017 6:41:03 GMT
I actually just got the Angara Avenger today.. my last UR. My highest other UR being 7, so pack shenanigans are definitely real, but I don't think this update's is the end of the world.
Edit: That's actually skewed a bit as I started doing nothing but Arsenals after they came out.
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Post by ddrguy300 on Jul 7, 2017 7:44:25 GMT
I swear, yall can bitch about anything. The game mostly was a flop, be happy we are getting some new things still. The Batarian is awesome. Some of the "new" weapons I've tried are pretty cool too. Mee personally, i was tired of dropping 100k on a pack and getting 5 blue cards. At least now im getting somethin from them. People wanted challenge and Platinum is pretty challenging. Aside from the timer on Devices, everything seems pretty fair. You'll get tired of it again once you max the new rares and you'll be tired of it for 3 times longer.
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Post by Pounce de León on Jul 7, 2017 8:01:48 GMT
Meh, I have reddish Asari now. Loot is for scrubs anyway.
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Post by Jeremiah12LGeek on Jul 7, 2017 11:23:34 GMT
Right, maybe the Batarian is awesome. But, that's assuming you ever even get one. I have been playing this game since it came out and it refuses to give me even one Human Keneticist, even though I have ALL characters maxed out except a few Ultra-Rares. I have suspected for quite some time that Bioware set it up so that one random character in the roster never drops so that you are suckered into buying packs in hopes to ever getting it. I have heard and talked to other people in the same situation I am in. They have everything and maxed but Ultra-Rares, but the game refuses to give them one character at all. Plenty of people have maxed out purely on credits, no AndromedaBux spent. Were I not lazy I could run the odds for you to have unlocked all URs except Kineticst I. It's low, but not unfathomably low. Everybody has that one hole in their manifest that hasn't been filled. Except the people that don't Scratch that. Everyone(Okay fine except weirdos who spent 59 million credits yesterday to re-max their manifests.)
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Post by JRandall0308 on Jul 7, 2017 12:26:57 GMT
You know who is really getting screwed here? Anyone who spent the time or money to max out their Rares in order to be guaranteed to get the new Rare chars / weapons as soon as they become available.
If you were sitting on maxed Rares, prior to 1.09, you had a 100% chance to get the Batarian Scrapper as your next 10 Rares.
Now your chance is... well I suck at stats but it's a helluva lot less than 100%.
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Post by peddroelm on Jul 7, 2017 13:21:17 GMT
You know who is really getting screwed here? Anyone who spent the time or money to max out their Rares in order to be guaranteed to get the new Rare chars / weapons as soon as they become available. If you were sitting on maxed Rares, prior to 1.09, you had a 100% chance to get the Batarian Scrapper as your next 10 Rares. Now your chance is... well I suck at stats but it's a helluva lot less than 100%. I got him in the first pack .. Should I continue to buy expensive packs I'm sure they would pretty much be batarian, batarian ... X+ Cards will start to drop after the batarian is also X .. Same story with UR (hello_isaac reports he had maxed UR prior to 1.09). He pretty much got kishocks until it maxed ... Then the X+ craziness starts (chars and guns)..
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Post by JRandall0308 on Jul 7, 2017 13:29:10 GMT
Hmm. Well I'm sure we are somehow screwed I just don't know how yet.
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Post by N7_CAT on Jul 7, 2017 13:30:33 GMT
Yesterday spent 6.1M on Premium packs. Had maxed manifest before 1.09.
Salarian Operator XI Human Kineticist XIII P.A.W. (Concussive) I Naladen (Bulwark) I Ushior (Siphon) I Kishock Harpoon Gun IX
UR drop-rate 26,2%
Batarian Scrapper XII
Free Apex Elite Pack got me additional Batarian Scrapper and Salarian Operator.
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Post by Uchimura on Jul 7, 2017 13:37:31 GMT
Hmm. Well I'm sure we are somehow screwed I just don't know how yet. If none of the variants or vet tier character cards were dropping until all baseline X or rares and URs were fully maxed (outside of the rule that the final remaining card can't drop twice in a pack--so a new thing would show up instead), would everything be peachy? Might not be as clean cut as that, but given some info, it might not actually be too bad. Lot of pitchforks here though.. BW should say a bit more on the subject. Even if they changed it to be clean cut, pitchforks still en masse.
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Post by lennybusker on Jul 7, 2017 13:40:14 GMT
Hmm. Well I'm sure we are somehow screwed I just don't know how yet. No, you're correct, I had rare characters maxed and got about 5 extra unlocks before Batarian I. Peddro just got lucky.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2017 13:40:19 GMT
Well, you skip it, but you still have to deal with the now worthless I-X regular drops stealing your money. It's amazing that three people upvoted a complete and blatant lie. You can't possibly get the variant weapons until the base weapon is already at X. So it's impossible to get "worthless I-X regular drops stealing your money" if you can get the variant weapons.
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Post by jloco11 on Jul 7, 2017 14:02:37 GMT
I had 13 million credits to burn last night.... decent amount to notice a few trends:
- The UR variants, WOULD NOT drop until I had the Kishock 10. I was getting UR character cards, but not a single variant UR dropped until Kishock was level 10. After that, then variant guns dropped.
- Maybe this was pure luck, but the rare variant cards would drop the level 1 of a gun... and continue dropping a different level 1 gun. I didn't get a level 2 variant until all the rares had a level 1 gun of the same variant. So Talon Siphon 1, Scorpion Talon 1, Halberd Siphon 1 etc.......... and once all the siphons dropped, then I got a level 2. I didn't get all concussive or bulwarks, and the ones I do have are level 1. But I did get all the rare siphons, and only those guns went to level 2 and up.
Not sure if that is a pure coincidence, but it was almost as if RNG was waiting for me to have every gun in a certain variant before dropping the level 2 cards.
- None of the new mods dropped for me. I assume they're last on the list of things to fall, as characters & guns will fall first. Once those max out, then the mods will start dropping. Otherwise, you can buy them with mission funds right now which is stupid.
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Post by Jeremiah12LGeek on Jul 7, 2017 14:06:24 GMT
Well, you skip it, but you still have to deal with the now worthless I-X regular drops stealing your money. It's amazing that three people upvoted a complete and blatant lie. You can't possibly get the variant weapons until the base weapon is already at X. So it's impossible to get "worthless I-X regular drops stealing your money" if you can get the variant weapons. Except that according to a BioWare Dev you can get the variant first, it is just weighted to be less likely until you have unlocked the basic version at X. You really need to stop accusing every person who says something you don't like of being part of an evil conspiracy. You're starting to look like a bit of a lunatic.
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Post by Pounce de León on Jul 7, 2017 14:09:18 GMT
Hmm. Well I'm sure we are somehow screwed I just don't know how yet. I was already screwed with the "S" stuff. I am happy to share this experience with everybody else now.
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