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Post by seductivewizard on Jul 17, 2017 7:09:38 GMT
If you're playing a fat Angaran bullet sponge like the Exemplar and you got three predictable cloakers on your platinum team (Angara Avenger, Human Infiltrator, Asari Huntress...whoop di doo...what else could it be?), be very careful friends, be very very careful. These 3 motherfuckers will do a simulataneous cloak any second, and boom, the fat Angaran bullet sponge exemplar's jaw will drop as he gets targeted/shot at by anything and everything.
Had three flak cannons flying simultaneously at me from Beserker triplets (maybe a blaze hydra and a blaze destroyer threw something in too) when the cloak boys simultaneously cloaked away into oblivion. Split the pain you cloaking cowards. Split the pain...
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Post by Fly In The Lotion on Jul 17, 2017 12:16:05 GMT
I'm really looking forward to Bioware changing the hack back (the fuck) the way it was, so I can enjoy some team synergy again.
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Post by ochadd on Jul 17, 2017 13:34:20 GMT
It always sucks when the number of infiltrators in the lobby doesn't register. Used to happen to me in ME3 more often then it does now. Older and wiser
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Post by SentinelBorg on Jul 17, 2017 13:41:52 GMT
Yeah, playing the sole non-stealther is certainly terrible. But doable, as long as they pick you up every 30 seconds or so. I like to play a Krogan Merc in that situation, so you do at least a lot of damage in the short time you are alive.
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Post by BadgerladDK on Jul 17, 2017 14:21:01 GMT
I believe what you're experiencing is the cloak / non-cloak version of Operation Get Behind the Darkies.
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Post by Schreiner on Jul 17, 2017 14:39:30 GMT
i learned this the hard way. 60% of the plat pugs i go into have 3 stealth classes, and i'm forced to play a stealth class as well just so i don't get instantly murked by all enemies looking for a target.
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Post by Terminator Force on Jul 17, 2017 14:43:35 GMT
Took forever to find a lobby that wasn't all infiltrators yesterday for that Platinum challenge. Well, I lie, because I never found that lobby. Had to switch to infiltrator just to get the job done already so I can stop playing this mess. From overwhelming amount of campers to now this, this game never fails to impress how much fail it is. Grenade cloaks that can be spammed forever without cooldown, don't break cloak when tossing nades or prevent shield regen, enemies can't hear you under cloak or cheat see you? And your dodge is an auto tac-cloak freebeee too? .... I'd really like to know who's the genius behind the new tac-cloak redesign? ^ Was it him?
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Post by jloco11 on Jul 17, 2017 14:45:25 GMT
My logic = Good, now you 3 will have to choose who revives me as a Turian Havoc, Sentinel or Scrapper since I have to be the bullet sponge.
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Post by Beerfish on Jul 17, 2017 14:46:08 GMT
Wut is there any wonder that plat will be a cloak fast and any non cloaker or guy caught at the r5ight time would be instantly killed?
Yet another massive design weakness to tactical cloak as a power, just like me3. Because the power is so good bioware ends up designing the game around it.
I have not tied plat yet but there is no way i will try it unless i play a tac cloak character,
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Post by rlro on Jul 17, 2017 14:47:04 GMT
Actually it is not that bad since you have barrier (although much harder than playing a stealth class).
I very often play Human Sentinel as the only non-stealth class in Platinum and I don't die that much due to barrier and energy drain. You just have to play smart.
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Post by Terminator Force on Jul 17, 2017 14:51:55 GMT
Yeah, playing the sole non-stealther is certainly terrible. But doable, as long as they pick you up every 30 seconds or so. I like to play a Krogan Merc in that situation, so you do at least a lot of damage in the short time you are alive. They don't. I got stomped by accident yesterday as I was mesmerized that this Angara Avenger next to me didn't notice me. Was a great scoop on how these Avengers play hide and seek from spectator mode. Tac-cloak, teleport, melee, optional nade or two if required, single shogun shot finish, repeat with hiding behind the safety of tack cloak. Almost fell asleep just watching this, never mind playing.
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Post by auronio on Jul 17, 2017 14:58:29 GMT
If you're playing a fat Angaran bullet sponge like the Exemplar and you got three predictable cloakers on your platinum team (Angara Avenger, Human Infiltrator, Asari Huntress...whoop di doo...what else could it be?), be very careful friends, be very very careful. These 3 motherfuckers will do a simulataneous cloak any second, and boom, the fat Angaran bullet sponge exemplar's jaw will drop as he gets targeted/shot at by anything and everything. Had three flak cannons flying simultaneously at me from Beserker triplets (maybe a blaze hydra and a blaze destroyer threw something in too) when the cloak boys simultaneously cloaked away into oblivion. Split the pain you cloaking cowards. Split the pain... Simple solution. Be the 4th one...
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Post by Terminator Force on Jul 17, 2017 15:00:24 GMT
If you're playing a fat Angaran bullet sponge like the Exemplar and you got three predictable cloakers on your platinum team (Angara Avenger, Human Infiltrator, Asari Huntress...whoop di doo...what else could it be?), be very careful friends, be very very careful. These 3 motherfuckers will do a simulataneous cloak any second, and boom, the fat Angaran bullet sponge exemplar's jaw will drop as he gets targeted/shot at by anything and everything. Had three flak cannons flying simultaneously at me from Beserker triplets (maybe a blaze hydra and a blaze destroyer threw something in too) when the cloak boys simultaneously cloaked away into oblivion. Split the pain you cloaking cowards. Split the pain... Simple solution. Be the 4th one...
A forth Avenger that only spams tac-cloak and runs around to empty all the nade boxes? Might be fun for a match or two.
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Post by gethadept on Jul 17, 2017 15:03:00 GMT
I don`t understand. We should have something called Cobra RPG as solution for such army.
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Post by inert on Jul 17, 2017 15:04:29 GMT
PUGs always go infiltrators, it's the selfish choice. It's the same as it was in ME3, with some subtle differences.
-MEAMP, Infiltrators are no longer the best at DPS, so choosing all infiltrators means a slower game. -Aggro dumping is much worse. In ME3, a cloak wouldn't necessarily make an enemy forget about you entirely. In MEAMP, they immediately turn to the next closest teammate. The coding should be changed for to prioritize a recently cloaked player over another that is across the map.
Depending on my kit choice, I'd relish the aggro three infiltrators gave me in ME3MP. In ME:A it's much more of a pain.
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Post by Terminator Force on Jul 17, 2017 15:15:43 GMT
PUGs always go infiltrators, it's the selfish choice. It's the same as it was in ME3, with some subtle differences. -MEAMP, Infiltrators are no longer the best at DPS, so choosing all infiltrators means a slower game. -Aggro dumping is much worse. In ME3, a cloak wouldn't necessarily make an enemy forget about you entirely. In MEAMP, they immediately turn to the next closest teammate. The coding should be changed for to prioritize a recently cloaked player over another that is across the map. Depending on my kit choice, I'd relish the aggro three infiltrators gave me in ME3MP. In ME:A it's much more of a pain. I'm pretty sure a day or two ago I seen one of those mini gun kett guys still shooting for me trying to figure out where I was? Maybe because he was already ramped up when I switched to cloak.
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Post by inert on Jul 17, 2017 15:32:40 GMT
PUGs always go infiltrators, it's the selfish choice. It's the same as it was in ME3, with some subtle differences. -MEAMP, Infiltrators are no longer the best at DPS, so choosing all infiltrators means a slower game. -Aggro dumping is much worse. In ME3, a cloak wouldn't necessarily make an enemy forget about you entirely. In MEAMP, they immediately turn to the next closest teammate. The coding should be changed for to prioritize a recently cloaked player over another that is across the map. Depending on my kit choice, I'd relish the aggro three infiltrators gave me in ME3MP. In ME:A it's much more of a pain. I pretty sure a day or two ago I seen one of those mini gun kett guys still shooting for me trying to figure out where I was? Maybe because he was already ramped up when I switched to cloak. Either that, or everyone was cloaked at once. Still, in ME3MP, aggro dump wasn't as terribly obvious (it was still a selfish problem though).
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Post by auronio on Jul 17, 2017 15:37:19 GMT
PUGs always go infiltrators, it's the selfish choice. It's the same as it was in ME3, with some subtle differences. -MEAMP, Infiltrators are no longer the best at DPS, so choosing all infiltrators means a slower game. -Aggro dumping is much worse. In ME3, a cloak wouldn't necessarily make an enemy forget about you entirely. In MEAMP, they immediately turn to the next closest teammate. The coding should be changed for to prioritize a recently cloaked player over another that is across the map. Depending on my kit choice, I'd relish the aggro three infiltrators gave me in ME3MP. In ME:A it's much more of a pain. I pretty sure a day or two ago I seen one of those mini gun kett guys still shooting for me trying to figure out where I was? Maybe because he was already ramped up when I switched to cloak. This is the rule not the exception. AI foes shooting randomly in directions they suspect a player hiding. Makes even sense imho.
With regards to the other reply - I wasn't necessarily talking about another avenger but a turian agent very well would fit into this all infiltrator set up.
In general the high frequency of infiltrator builds in platinum only indicates players are not (yet) comfortable with the difficulty level - playing beyond their capabilities - and/or an imbalance in this difficulty level.
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Post by Whoateallmypasghetti on Jul 17, 2017 15:48:07 GMT
If youre playing a character with stealth grid I expect you to pick me up
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Post by seductivewizard on Jul 17, 2017 19:07:38 GMT
Yeah, playing the sole non-stealther is certainly terrible. But doable, as long as they pick you up every 30 seconds or so. I like to play a Krogan Merc in that situation, so you do at least a lot of damage in the short time you are alive. They don't. I got stomped by accident yesterday as I was mesmerized that this Angara Avenger next to me didn't notice me. Was a great scoop on how these Avengers play hide and seek from spectator mode. Tac-cloak, teleport, melee, optional nade or two if required, single shogun shot finish, repeat with hiding behind the safety of tack cloak. Almost fell asleep just watching this, never mind playing. Well said, Its not clear how these knobs can rinse-repeat that routine for days on end without going blue in the face. Non-cloakers do exist, but, they are fewer in number! So far, I've only been taking in the non-cloakers and had pretty good success with the ones who have some kinda solid get outta jail card. For instance, the exemplar (barricade), human sentinel (barricade), angara insurgent (shield boost), salarian operator (shield boost) and asari sentinel (backlash). Have a buddy who shows up on my squad at times who does well with a backlash focused asari duelist build (very different playstyle than gold) I did give my favorite character, the human engineer (as delicate as it got) a shot yesterday. God, that was rough when the cloak boys started doing their dirty and everything on the screen targeted you from every corner of the map. You can't get a break, literally escaping from cover to cover the whole time, and you don't get very many chances to output any damage at all. Unless, there's at least one other non-cloaker on the squad, it is rough with the delicate characters ( human engineer, human adept, etc) man.
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Post by xaijin on Jul 17, 2017 19:13:37 GMT
I would rate you up, but yesterday you also picked a cloaked character while I was the sole krogan, so....
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Post by unclemonster on Jul 17, 2017 19:17:49 GMT
It will balance out as we adapt to Plat. Right now, I would rather win with an infiltrator than lose without one. It's getting easier and my crew is starting to adapt and use other kits. The hacks and uploads are the main issues currently. Uploads are difficult sans cloak and hacks are almost impossible sans cloak. If they would change the hacks back, you would see less infiltrators. I am currently a proud member of the cloak army.
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Post by unclemonster on Jul 17, 2017 19:20:42 GMT
I would rate you up, but yesterday you also picked a cloaked character while I was the sole krogan, so.... LOL!!! Beware of the Platinum Cloak Army... OP sounds like you are a member of the cloak army!
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Post by seductivewizard on Jul 17, 2017 19:31:06 GMT
I would rate you up, but yesterday you also picked a cloaked character while I was the sole krogan, so.... LOL!!! Beware of the Platinum Cloak Army... OP sounds like you are a member of the cloak army! Nope, I didn't use a cloaker yesterday for sure. Xaijin had a brain fart.
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