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Post by auronio on Jul 18, 2017 11:31:28 GMT
With regards to the topic. Don't forget this game is not solely made for the satisfaction of a pro-rata 0.1-1% narrow-minded and self-centered hardcore player base. There are players out there who still struggle on lower levels than platinum and who also deserve a sporting chance to farm some mission funds. And Bioware would be wise to orient their focus more on the vast majority of players who deliver financially than on an indeed vocal but economically second-tier minority. All true, however what's stopping them from making it "Bronze (or higher)" to not waste the time of those of us who have little benefit from playing bronze? I can still use the MF, but bronze is a waste of time. Faced more than enough mocking from my friends yesterday for being greedy for the 30 missionbucks from the silver waves, I'd have to be invisible in Origin if I do bronze. My assumption. Cause they perceive already all advantages being on the hardcore player side. Why awarding those guys in addition to credit farming the mission funds from lower tier players who can't do the gold/platinum missions and hence can't (yet) earn the higher credits? Kind of unfair discrimination of newbies/unexperienced/occasionally playing ones compared to the super hardcore heroes.
I believe it's a fair trade. If you feel being too advanced to run these mission funds just don't do it. Pretty easy.
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Post by Terminator Force on Jul 18, 2017 11:43:30 GMT
With regards to the topic. Don't forget this game is not solely made for the satisfaction of a pro-rata 0.1-1% narrow-minded and self-centered hardcore player base. There are players out there who still struggle on lower levels than platinum and who also deserve a sporting chance to farm some mission funds. And Bioware would be wise to orient their focus more on the vast majority of players who deliver financially than on an indeed vocal but economically second-tier minority. Isn't this why gaming sucks? Too much catering to filthy candy crush casuals? ... My mom plays candy crush. And she's no gamer. Believe me, I've tried.
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Post by kaileena_sands on Jul 18, 2017 11:46:05 GMT
All true, however what's stopping them from making it "Bronze (or higher)" to not waste the time of those of us who have little benefit from playing bronze? I can still use the MF, but bronze is a waste of time. Faced more than enough mocking from my friends yesterday for being greedy for the 30 missionbucks from the silver waves, I'd have to be invisible in Origin if I do bronze. My assumption. Cause they perceive already all advantages being on the hardcore player side. Why awarding those guys in addition to credit farming the mission funds from lower tier players who can't do the gold/platinum missions and hence can't (yet) earn the higher credits? Kind of unfair discrimination of newbies/unexperienced/occasionally playing ones compared to the super hardcore heroes.
I believe it's a fair trade. If you feel being too advanced to run these mission funds just don't do it. Pretty easy.
There is another way to do things and BW know it already as it wasn't like that in ME3. If you did Plat, that would count towards a bronze wave challenge - which is as it should be. Defending Bioware's incomprehensible strategies is not cutting it. If I was only capable of Bronze here, I don't see why I would mind that a Gold or Plat game would count for the challenge. The important thing is that *I* would be able to complete the challenge. The fact that people that have invested more time in the game would be inconvenienced to play Bronze wouldn't make me happier or more content with Bioware. If it did make me happier, I would be a pretty shitty person actually. I don't argue that having challenges accessible to everyone is good - I fully support more of that. But there are ways and *ways* to do it.
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Post by Terminator Force on Jul 18, 2017 11:46:34 GMT
With regards to the topic. Don't forget this game is not solely made for the satisfaction of a pro-rata 0.1-1% narrow-minded and self-centered hardcore player base. There are players out there who still struggle on lower levels than platinum and who also deserve a sporting chance to farm some mission funds. And Bioware would be wise to orient their focus more on the vast majority of players who deliver financially than on an indeed vocal but economically second-tier minority. All true, however what's stopping them from making it "Bronze (or higher)" to not waste the time of those of us who have little benefit from playing bronze? I can still use the MF, but bronze is a waste of time. Faced more than enough mocking from my friends yesterday for being greedy for the 30 missionbucks from the silver waves, I'd have to be invisible in Origin if I do bronze. Yes, it should not got lower then Silver. Ever. We were all playing Gold day one with super soakers, remember?
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Post by cdrshepard on Jul 18, 2017 11:48:44 GMT
Come on, folks! What about "Uncle Killa's Adopt a Pug Program" -- meet the masses of Mass Effect! Do your fuggin' bronze, open game to public, get easy MF's? I use these 'opportunities' to farm some challenge using characters I normally don't take to gold/plat. Fun!
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Post by modusmoriendi on Jul 18, 2017 12:08:12 GMT
Bronze is perfect right now, as I'm away with a laptop. Could just about do bronze alone with the machine choking at lowest settings; tried Silver, but no point. :-)
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Post by unclemonster on Jul 18, 2017 12:28:25 GMT
Bronze sucks balls.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2017 14:14:35 GMT
All true, however what's stopping them from making it "Bronze (or higher)" to not waste the time of those of us who have little benefit from playing bronze? I can still use the MF, but bronze is a waste of time. Faced more than enough mocking from my friends yesterday for being greedy for the 30 missionbucks from the silver waves, I'd have to be invisible in Origin if I do bronze. My assumption. Cause they perceive already all advantages being on the hardcore player side. Why awarding those guys in addition to credit farming the mission funds from lower tier players who can't do the gold/platinum missions and hence can't (yet) earn the higher credits? Kind of unfair discrimination of newbies/unexperienced/occasionally playing ones compared to the super hardcore heroes.
I believe it's a fair trade. If you feel being too advanced to run these mission funds just don't do it. Pretty easy.
I will be fine with that if the days the Challenge is Gold, Bronze waves will count. Honestly, why just not setup a following Daily/Weekly thinggie:
1. 21 Waves on Any difficulty - each day, every day, 30 MF 2. Map - changes Daily and randomly, includes ALL maps, 30 MF 3. Weekly for Mastery Challenges, gives 120 MF for some sort of # of achievable points?
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Post by N7Mith on Jul 18, 2017 14:59:58 GMT
All true, however what's stopping them from making it "Bronze (or higher)" to not waste the time of those of us who have little benefit from playing bronze? I can still use the MF, but bronze is a waste of time. Faced more than enough mocking from my friends yesterday for being greedy for the 30 missionbucks from the silver waves, I'd have to be invisible in Origin if I do bronze. Yes, it should not got lower then Silver. Ever. We were all playing Gold day one with super soakers, remember? Day -3 for US and -6 for EU players actually.
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Post by Scathane on Jul 18, 2017 15:09:28 GMT
Personally, I don't mind running a Bronze match really...
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Post by mydamnalterego on Jul 18, 2017 18:01:30 GMT
And what is that bad in "Bronze waves"? Easy 30 MF. Combine with another daily aka "14 waves on Derelict" - which would mean "two Bronze games on Derelict" - and receive easy 60 MF ....
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Post by onehitparry on Jul 18, 2017 18:24:41 GMT
With regards to the topic. Don't forget this game is not solely made for the satisfaction of a pro-rata 0.1-1% narrow-minded and self-centered hardcore player base. There are players out there who still struggle on lower levels than platinum and who also deserve a sporting chance to farm some mission funds. And Bioware would be wise to orient their focus more on the vast majority of players who deliver financially than on an indeed vocal but economically second-tier minority. Isn't this why gaming sucks? Too much catering to filthy candy crush casuals? ... My mom plays candy crush. And she's no gamer. Believe me, I've tried. Yes and no. The hypothetical ideal is a game that is easy to learn or get into, but takes a long time to master. I only bring this up because Wizard of the Coast has really been struggling make Magic the Gathering meet both criteria more smoothly. It's been interesting to see WotC try different changes to try to achieve that goal (some improvements, but also some setbacks). One of the best principles that I think they use (which unfortunately isn't applicable to ME:MP) is that complexity of a card is dependent on rarity. Since most new players will start by just buying random packs of cards, they're likely to see more commons than uncommons and rares, so they'll have access too the simplest cards and see them the most frequently. So that can use the commons to learn the fundamentals of MtG. Uncommons and rares are sprinkled so they can learn new mechanics, but don't always have to deal with them. Then when they become more advanced they can make their own decks with a higher rare/uncommon to common ratio, increasing the complexity of the game. In theory you can have have both. I would argue that a game like chess is easy to learn, but certainly takes a long time to master. But I would agree that in practice, the two are effectively mutually exclusive.
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Post by crashsuit on Jul 18, 2017 18:34:32 GMT
Bronze is nice, so I can solo them when no one joins again. Could just about do bronze alone Combine with another daily aka "14 waves on Derelict" - which would mean "two Bronze games on Derelict" Did the same last night, I ran two public Bronze/Random/Derelict solos and got my 60MF. Nobody joined either game
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