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Post by Alfonsedode on Sept 11, 2018 8:06:31 GMT
Just curious what u used to make use of luck to use as a decision for which setup to use? A random 2€ coin, that was lying around on my desk. Arf, fraggle should know better than trusting your coin
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Post by fraggle on Sept 11, 2018 8:36:40 GMT
A random 2€ coin, that was lying around on my desk. Arf, fraggle should know better than trusting your coin Aw, but I'm trusting his coin and everything
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Sept 11, 2018 19:28:16 GMT
Ok, so on a nudge from MPApr2012 , I decided whimsically to N1 today. Whimsical it was not. I am not a great Platinum soloer by any means, so I set it to Firebase White Cerberus Gold. EDI, built for shotguns and left that way. Couldn't be bothered to respecc. 43:17, was a beautiful run until wave 3 escort, where I got caught in a Phantom Goon squad from hell and wasted 3 gels, maybe 4. I don't know. Wave 6 escort wasn't as bad, but I think I died. Somewhere around late 7/8, I was out of gels with 6 ops packs Thus, mission successful, will post video eventually. No killstreaks or waves survived medals lololololol
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Post by MPApr2012 on Sept 11, 2018 21:39:46 GMT
Ok, so on a nudge from MPApr2012 , I decided whimsically to N1 today. Whimsical it was not. I am not a great Platinum soloer by any means, so I set it to Firebase White Cerberus Gold. EDI, built for shotguns and left that way. Couldn't be bothered to respecc. 45:17, was a beautiful run until wave 3 escort, where I got caught in a Phantom Goon squad from hell and wasted 3 gels, maybe 4. I don't know. Wave 6 escort wasn't as bad, but I think I died. Somewhere around late 7/8, I was out of gels with 6 ops packs Thus, 46:17 mission successful, will post. Had 4 gold medals (grabs, smg kills, something something) and no killstreaks or waves survived medals lololololol it's about time you got here Welcome! And congrats on the mission success, so it's 1 down and 20 to go It's quite funny with the N1.1 - a commont comment by BSNers emabrking on this road is about not wanting to waste a respec card and just tanking it on their current melee/shotgun builds. Eagle or Hurrdurr? EDIT: nvm the last, medals is a telltale heheh
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Post by DistigousForest on Sept 12, 2018 10:33:54 GMT
Whimsical it was not. I am not a great Platinum soloer by any means, so I set it to Firebase White Cerberus Gold. Lol I gave this thing about 15-20 attempts, burned through my entire stash of CMIV and APIV in the process, before I realized maybe I'm not good enough for the N7 on Plat Yes, I'm just a wee bit stubborn. Like MPApr2012 said in the other thread there are some really good ones; N1.2, N4.2, N5.1, come to mind. And I know you've read enough about the ones that aren't hard per se, just a pain in the ass.
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Sept 12, 2018 17:11:38 GMT
Whimsical it was not. I am not a great Platinum soloer by any means, so I set it to Firebase White Cerberus Gold. Lol I gave this thing about 15-20 attempts, burned through my entire stash of CMIV and APIV in the process, before I realized maybe I'm not good enough for the N7 on Plat Yes, I'm just a wee bit stubborn. Like MPApr2012 said in the other thread there are some really good ones; N1.2, N4.2, N5.1, come to mind. And I know you've read enough about the ones that aren't hard per se, just a pain in the ass. Interesting. I used Incendiary, AP kills faster but no burning stagger. I wouldn't have the patience to do most of these on Platinum. Let alone the skill.
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Post by DistigousForest on Sept 12, 2018 17:45:42 GMT
Lol I gave this thing about 15-20 attempts, burned through my entire stash of CMIV and APIV in the process, before I realized maybe I'm not good enough for the N7 on Plat Yes, I'm just a wee bit stubborn. Like MPApr2012 said in the other thread there are some really good ones; N1.2, N4.2, N5.1, come to mind. And I know you've read enough about the ones that aren't hard per se, just a pain in the ass. Interesting. I used Incendiary, AP kills faster but no burning stagger. I wouldn't have the patience to do most of these on Platinum. Let alone the skill. The double hits too. It was the mostly the damn Phantoms why I quit. They'd start to flip and I just couldn't kill them, such a pain in the ass. Gave up and went to gold
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Sept 12, 2018 18:54:42 GMT
Well, N2.1 is a Goon problem for me. I am good with the Paladin, but not TTT/Hendrix/muahmuah/Alquinn level obviously ;_; They die rapidly with the Warp ammo, but the 3 shot clip is killing me - I normally would use extended clip and AP, but that didn't work well the first time. Two wave 10 fails. Targets, then devices. Had the last device 90% done with 16 seconds on the timer, and got Phantom melee'd out of the device. It did not help, at all, that the entire first spawn was on top of the first device. Biowerpls. Edit: success, 35:59. Only video'd end of wave 9 to extraction. Another surprisingly difficult Gold solo, with some frustration. The Arc Pistol is just better, as is the Talon. Poor Paladin. N2.1
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Sept 12, 2018 21:17:42 GMT
Laying down the Lawson? More like laying down the bullshit. I might be able to do this on Wood. Edit: nicely done SenorZanahoria, despite the abomb hugs you handled this nicely. I was fixated on FEs, Geth Scanner and Drill makes a lot of sense actually.
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Post by MPApr2012 on Sept 12, 2018 22:21:37 GMT
Well, N2.1 is a Goon problem for me. I am good with the Paladin, but not TTT/Hendrix/muahmuah/Alquinn level obviously ;_; They die rapidly with the Warp ammo, but the 3 shot clip is killing me - I normally would use extended clip and AP, but that didn't work well the first time. Two wave 10 fails. Targets, then devices. Had the last device 90% done with 16 seconds on the timer, and got Phantom melee'd out of the device. It did not help, at all, that the entire first spawn was on top of the first device. Biowerpls. Edit: success, 35:59. Only video'd end of wave 9 to extraction. Another surprisingly difficult Gold solo, with some frustration. The Arc Pistol is just better, as is the Talon. Poor Paladin. Hehe... Congrats mate well done! Are you binging the series to have it completed this week or what? Yeah i think it's the ammo that tripped you i reckon and made it more difficult and less fun, - Disruptor would have been better imo it trivialises Gold carebears stagger/techbursts all around, Cryo would have slowed/debuffed goons nicely, even some Drill would have made for some handy wallhaxing and keep you in cover if need be, that's all on top of her impressive crowd control capabilities. you are running her 66660 i presume for them glorious explosions? Laying down the Lawson? More like laying down the bullshit. I might be able to do this on Wood. Collectors Collectors and Goddess, sprinkled with shitty objectives? The first challenge where i just resigned to full on kiting and picking them one by one, them abombs are your best friend. Made me miss my Valkyrie a lot this challenge edit: and yeah don't worry, once that one is out of the way, the N2.3 will put you back in good moods. DistigousForest 's favourite one. Think larsdt is also floundering about somewhere in the outskirts of Rio
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Sept 13, 2018 2:05:08 GMT
I ended up using Warp I think, Disruptor would have been a good choice as well.
I am sucking pretty hard with Miranda. The Locust is useless unfortunately, which makes it dead weight.
So many avenues for the reckless Troopers and Captains, kiting isn't a straightforward affair at all.
Getting downed by Possessed Swarms. That's a good time.
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Post by SenorZanahoria on Sept 13, 2018 9:18:15 GMT
Laying down the Lawson? More like laying down the bullshit. I might be able to do this on Wood. Edit: nicely done SenorZanahoria , despite the abomb hugs you handled this nicely. I was fixated on FEs, Geth Scanner and Drill makes a lot of sense actually. Thanks! I've only finished the challenges up to N2 so far and I was pretty sure Laying down the Lawson would be the one that made me quit the challenges out of frustration. Turned out to be wrong. Paladin on Giant clearly is much more difficult somehow. As for the abomb hugs... For some reason I tend to get hugged quite a bit by abombs and husks (for Pull-ups those Husk hugs were responsible for plenty of deaths). I also like to get hugged by Banshees and all the other enemies, but that's a different story What turned out to be very useful for me, was using Warp on all those small enemies to stagger them and have an easy headshot as my aiming is rather bad most of the time. And I guess playing safer and less aggressively than usual helped a lot. Also, yeah, I'm lost in solos without Geth Scanner so far and I like being able to shoot through some walls.
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Post by Alfonsedode on Sept 13, 2018 11:56:08 GMT
i think i would warp ammo on goddess vs collector. But AP + extended mag might be better. Locust is pretty good for Headshots, so warp stagger + Headshot can be working well, but carniflex does the job better anyway.
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Sept 13, 2018 15:19:08 GMT
i think i would warp ammo on goddess vs collector. But AP + extended mag might be better. Locust is pretty good for Headshots, so warp stagger + Headshot can be working well, but carniflex does the job better anyway. I will try Warp. The damage bonus alone should make a difference. Drill/AP works well on the map, but Warp may kill better as I am not wallhacking too much. My issue on this one is TTK and panicking. I am used to MUCH more DPS on a solo, so this one is a true test. Plus, you have the fucking BS that the Collectors cheez with... The webs man. I really have some doubts here, tbh. Edit: I shouldn't have doubted so much N2.2 Targets Pizza Hack. All credit goes to SenorZanahoria and Pfefferi , I emulated their runs to the best of my ability. I definitely wasted some time, especially on a really bad whiff of a cleanup rocket on wave 10 that extended the match considerably.
Edit: rather than clog the thread with double posts and endless screens, let me dump them here in spoilers. I will eventually post videos of all successes, I have full video of all but one so far, not that anyone will learn anything useful from viewing. Perhaps some entertainment value in scrubbery. N1.2 N1.3
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Post by AW_FC_1986 on Sept 13, 2018 21:32:30 GMT
Ok, so on a nudge from MPApr2012 , I decided whimsically to N1 today. Whimsical it was not. I am not a great Platinum soloer by any means, so I set it to Firebase White Cerberus Gold. EDI, built for shotguns and left that way. Couldn't be bothered to respecc. 43:17, was a beautiful run until wave 3 escort, where I got caught in a Phantom Goon squad from hell and wasted 3 gels, maybe 4. I don't know. Wave 6 escort wasn't as bad, but I think I died. Somewhere around late 7/8, I was out of gels with 6 ops packs Thus, mission successful, will post video eventually. No killstreaks or waves survived medals lololololol
A pleasure to see even more BSN'ers try to storm the castle. Welcome to the madness, man. But be warned, the princess is still in another castle in the end.
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Post by Pfefferi on Sept 14, 2018 5:04:32 GMT
N3.III - Awaking the Eye of Wrath (Hardcore) (redo) 23:40 - Pfefferi (256 077pts) My total is under 9 hrs but still probably 12 or 13 minutes behind the Turian on the leaderboard, I think, I don't think I'll attempt chasing her down for now.
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Post by larsdt on Sept 14, 2018 16:16:49 GMT
Think larsdt is also floundering about somewhere in the outskirts of Rio Damn, I thought I was able to sneak out from this conversation I do try it on occasion though, when I'm not in "fuck this grind" mood
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Sept 14, 2018 16:42:09 GMT
Think larsdt is also floundering about somewhere in the outskirts of Rio Damn, I thought I was able to sneak out from this conversation I do try it on occasion though, when I'm not in "fuck this grind" mood Yesterday, I did 182 pullups 4 or 5 times. The challenge name is quite apt. This map, with this gun, is an endurance test. You cannot kill a Banshee fast enough to deal with her and ANYTHING ELSE, so you must kite and kill the mooks. Thus, you run around, kill things, run around, kill things. Every Banshee kite is a pushup. Get pizza - more pushups. Get it twice in the same solo? Better hope for something different on wave 10, because your thumb is tired from space bar pushups. Escort? Yeah, it's only from one end of the map to the other, that's all. Prepare to kite. And do more pushups. Devices and Hack are the gift on this map... That is like thanking your ex-girlfriend for the gift of herpes. Last attempt: five waves survived, flawless through 7, dead by end of 7. I do not struggle with this solo - I destroy, and then collapse. Need to do more pushups. fml Edit: how have you successful runners set up your expendables and Revvay? I have been going AR Stability/HVB with IA4, using Grenade Gear/ Cyclonic/ AR amp. I have tried ap/hvb. Have tried extended mag with Damage Barrel and AP4. I have also used Stability 3, Power Amp 4... Might wanna try Power Amp 4 again, now that I think about it. I am very close, still looking for an edge because this one is tiring.
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Post by larsdt on Sept 14, 2018 18:27:59 GMT
Damn, I thought I was able to sneak out from this conversation I do try it on occasion though, when I'm not in "fuck this grind" mood Yesterday, I did 182 pullups 4 or 5 times. The challenge name is quite apt. This map, with this gun, is an endurance test. You cannot kill a Banshee fast enough to deal with her and ANYTHING ELSE, so you must kite and kill the mooks. Thus, you run around, kill things, run around, kill things.Every Banshee kite is a pushup. Get pizza - more pushups. Get it twice in the same solo? Better hope for something different on wave 10, because your thumb is tired from space bar pushups. Escort? Yeah, it's only from one end of the map to the other, that's all. Prepare to kite. And do more pushups. Devices and Hack are the gift on this map... That is like thanking your ex-girlfriend for the gift of herpes. Last attempt: five waves survived, flawless through 7, dead by end of 7. I do not struggle with this solo - I destroy, and then collapse. Need to do more pushups. fml Edit: how have you successful runners set up your expendables and Revvay? I have been going AR Stability/HVB with IA4, using Grenade Gear/ Cyclonic/ AR amp. I have tried ap/hvb. Have tried extended mag with Damage Barrel and AP4. I have also used Stability 3, Power Amp 4... Might wanna try Power Amp 4 again, now that I think about it. I am very close, still looking for an edge because this one is tiring. Totally agree with the endurance test. Did the same solo with the Claymore which was fairly easy even with my level of scrubbyness. The Katana just doesn't pack enough punch against the Banshees and they keep pushing me into Marauder elbows and Ravager artillery until I eventually run out of gels. I may even be desperate enough to try it with the Revvy next time...
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Sept 14, 2018 18:43:05 GMT
Totally agree with the endurance test. Did the same solo with the Claymore which was fairly easy even with my level of scrubbyness. The Katana just doesn't pack enough punch against the Banshees and they keep pushing me into Marauder elbows and Ravager artillery until I eventually run out of gels. I may even be desperate enough to try it with the Revvy next time... I cannot imagine doing this run with Katana... Nope. No. No. No no no.
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Post by muahmuah on Sept 14, 2018 18:50:26 GMT
Yesterday, I did 182 pullups 4 or 5 times. The challenge name is quite apt. This map, with this gun, is an endurance test. You cannot kill a Banshee fast enough to deal with her and ANYTHING ELSE, so you must kite and kill the mooks. Thus, you run around, kill things, run around, kill things. Every Banshee kite is a pushup. Get pizza - more pushups. Get it twice in the same solo? Better hope for something different on wave 10, because your thumb is tired from space bar pushups. Escort? Yeah, it's only from one end of the map to the other, that's all. Prepare to kite. And do more pushups. Devices and Hack are the gift on this map... That is like thanking your ex-girlfriend for the gift of herpes. Last attempt: five waves survived, flawless through 7, dead by end of 7. I do not struggle with this solo - I destroy, and then collapse. Need to do more pushups. fml Edit: how have you successful runners set up your expendables and Revvay? I have been going AR Stability/HVB with IA4, using Grenade Gear/ Cyclonic/ AR amp. I have tried ap/hvb. Have tried extended mag with Damage Barrel and AP4. I have also used Stability 3, Power Amp 4... Might wanna try Power Amp 4 again, now that I think about it. I am very close, still looking for an edge because this one is tiring. Use a katana with disrupto ammo. This was my build for the gold run if i remember correctly.4 grenades were more than enough for me.I had a video somewhere form 7 wave,(a redo)becasue forgot to record,but never posted it.
EDIT: Found the video- here.
It's a little bit faster than my original run,but the difference is negligible so i never posted this.
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Post by docsteely on Sept 14, 2018 19:31:13 GMT
Use a katana with disrupto ammo. This was my build for the gold run if i remember correctly. 4 grenades were more than enough for me.I had a video somewhere form 7 wave,(a redo)becasue forgot to record,but never posted it.
EDIT: Found the video- here.
It's a little bit faster than my original run,but the difference is negligable so i never posted this.
Doc in your build as presented you only have 2 nades...
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Post by muahmuah on Sept 14, 2018 19:40:49 GMT
Use a katana with disrupto ammo. This was my build for the gold run if i remember correctly. 4 grenades were more than enough for me.I had a video somewhere form 7 wave,(a redo)becasue forgot to record,but never posted it.
EDIT: Found the video- here.
It's a little bit faster than my original run,but the difference is negligable so i never posted this.
Doc in your build as presented you only have 2 nades... My bad.Everything else is OK tho.
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Post by Alfonsedode on Sept 15, 2018 13:59:51 GMT
cryosoldier might be fun too on pull ups as reapa as only marauder with shield .
edit: lol, reapa not good for cryo CS spam, just forgot about .... Brutes & ravagers.
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