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Post by vertigomez on Oct 2, 2018 22:51:14 GMT
I honestly feel our elven Companons will be: -Viddithari double agent -Ancient Elf, either awoken servant of Solas or one of the Evanaris, or maybe even one of the Evenaris themselves. This isn't necessarily what I would prefer, just what I think currently most likely. I keep thinking of that elf from the Blackpowder Courtesy(??) quest who poisoned all the nobles and blamed it on the Qunari: "Qunari take my people. My siblings forget their culture, then go to the Qun for purpose. We're losing them twice!"I like the idea of a very pro-alienage culture elf contrasted with a viddathari character. I suspect this is what we'll get, or we'll get one of these characters contrasted with an elven mage (a la Varania) who managed to move up in the ranks. On the other hand, for once it'd be nice if our elven companions weren't at each other's throats the whole time. Looking at you, Fenris and Merrill, Solas and Sera.
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Post by x19dude95 on Oct 3, 2018 2:45:30 GMT
Instead of making its own topic I pm going post this here.
Now it might not work with a Small squad or not at all but I was thinking what if we had an option to turn on a mode that if a companion falls in battle they die and can’t be used for the rest of the game
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Post by TabithaTH on Oct 3, 2018 8:37:53 GMT
1 - Awakened companion: An armor infused with lyrium could work. I think it has to be regular Lyrium, though. And then it could become more and more red and corrupted as time goes by. Maybe a personal quest could be to help replenish the lyrium/make a new armor, so it was “clean” again.
2 - Elf companions: What if the “elfy” companion is someone who romanticizes the Dalish/their culture, but ultimately doesn’t know anything about it. Someone like Zevran, a City elf or a Slave (Or not even an elf at all), who has just heard stories of a “better”/Freer life.
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Post by SomberXIII on Oct 3, 2018 9:07:15 GMT
The companions I would like to see are already listed by people in the first page but here are a few of my ideal. - Fog Warrior
- Rivaini Seer
- Barbarian (more like Tamar from DAI)
- Pro Tevinter mage/warrior
- Ancient elf like Abelas
- Someone who talk about sex (Didn't really like Isabela but her banter was awesome)
- A grey warden again (Not a borderline abomination like Anders nor an imposter like Blackwall)
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Post by Vortex13 on Oct 3, 2018 12:26:51 GMT
I think the issue with tainted darkspawn blood can be dealt with easily enough. Our PC and companions in all three games have fought darkspawn many times and have been completely showered in their blood during the course of battles. It's only when the narrative of the game calls for it, does any character actually become poisoned. That's definitely something that I think the games should have given more attention to. It's an example of "ludonarrative dissonance". I can easily imagine people who had to fight against Darkspawn covering their faces with some sort of fabric infused with certain potions etc. I'd imagine that's the kind of realistic precautions people in this setting might take when faced with the taint. I agree, though with how loosely the games play with the rules on that particular aspect of the lore I don't think it would be intellectually honest to bar a potential companion on those grounds. If suddenly the rules regarding the taint are to be enforced that strictly, then we should also have to go back and recton all three previous games to end in 'game over' screens the moment we fought our first Darkspawn; all non-Grey wardens falling ill and dying a painful death. Besides, even with that aspect to the lore, there are plenty of examples of characters utilizing the taint to differing affects without all succumbing to it's corruption. There are even examples of characters controlling the taint, managing it in ways that would benefit them rather than harm them. And then there are all the ancient magical artifacts to consider. I mean, if a magical teleportation network, or a key to literally rip open the Veil is possible then so is something as simple as would allow an Awakened to not poison those around it.
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Post by Vortex13 on Oct 3, 2018 13:32:43 GMT
Besides, even with that aspect to the lore, there are plenty of examples of characters utilizing the taint to differing affects without all succumbing to it's corruption. There are even examples of characters controlling the taint, managing it in ways that would benefit them rather than harm them. And then there are all the ancient magical artifacts to consider. I mean, if a magical teleportation network, or a key to literally rip open the Veil is possible then so is something as simple as would allow an Awakened to not poison those around it. Hmmm... You mean Avernus? He's an ancient "crazy scientist", probably an abomination to boot. He probably had a lot of time and access to victims to experiment on, not something that should be very common. The thing is, I think that the few cases we see of individuals controlling the taint and stopping it from spreading and causing infection are only with extremely powerful Darkspawn, it seems to me that for anyone other than an Uber Darkspawn, the best you would be able to manage is probably use it as a powersource for magic, or something similar. Outright stopping it from acting on its primary directive (infecting and generally acting like a sort of fantasy "grey goo"), is probably a very difficult task, something that cheapens the threat of the taint if you use it too often. From a story-telling perspective I don't think that this is a good idea. (not to mention that if the Darkspawn in question is THAT powerful, why would he follow your level 5 character around?...) However, all the above doesn't mean that I think that it wouldn't be interesting, I simply think that you would need to find a creative way to deal with it. Perhaps the Darkspawn simply covers his entire body with layers of potion-infused cloth under a full-suit of armor. This would hide his nature and also minimize the threat of spreading the taint to others. I could go with an Awakened that uses more "mundane" measures of managing it's innately corruptive nature, as I too don't want to cheapen the nature or threat of the taint. And while I am somewhat leery of adding another McGuffin to the setting that magically does what was previously thought impossible (i.e. magical teleportation or total reversal of tranquility) I am not discounting such avenues if it means that we would get an interesting character or storyline out of it. As for what kind of Darkspawn we would be dealing with, I personally think that there would be a lot of interesting possibilities with a fully matured Child of the Mother: Not the larval or grub stage we see of them in Awakening, but a fully developed "adult". Considering how 'alien' they were to even regular darkspawn, and that even those otherwise fearless creatures of the taint were leery of them, this could make for a very compelling companion as well as help inject some more dark fantasy elements back into the setting. Being a "full blooded" awakened, rather than a hybrid like the Messenger was, would mean that we would have no real understand of how such a being, or it's connection to the taint would work. Considering how twisted and constantly mutating the Children were in Awakening, it might mean that the cursed nature of the darkspawn is more internalized than externalized, that maybe such a companion wouldn't necessarily be a walking Typhoid Mary to those around it. As for the relative power level, that could easily be explained by this character being the only one of it's kind to develop this far, at it's nature and innate powers being unfamiliar to it and needing to be mastered as it levels alongside the player character.
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Post by Serza on Oct 3, 2018 13:57:47 GMT
Ok, straight up calling them now:
Vaea Sir Aaron Hawthorne Tessa Forsythia Marius Charter Harding Olivia Pryde
And possibly some others. Not all may be actual companions.
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Post by gangrelbeckett on Oct 3, 2018 15:06:59 GMT
Ok, straight up calling them now: Vaea Sir Aaron Hawthorne Tessa Forsythia Marius Charter Harding Olivia Pryde And possibly some others. Not all may be actual companions. Thats very unlikely that we get more than one Comic Character as Companion if we consider previous DAs. DAA had one returning Character, DA 2 had 3 and DAI had 2 plus one from a novel.
I would say that the DA 4 Party Roster will likely be also 3 existing Characters plus 6 new Ones. And Companion from the Comics would be Maevaris.
Also Harding but i don´t label her as a Comic Character.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Oct 3, 2018 15:13:34 GMT
Ok, straight up calling them now: Vaea Sir Aaron Hawthorne Tessa Forsythia Marius Charter Harding Olivia Pryde And possibly some others. Not all may be actual companions. Thats very unlikely that we get more than one Comic Character as Companion if we consider previous DAs. DAA had one returning Character, DA 2 had 3 and DAI had 2 plus one from a novel.
I would say that the DA 4 Party Roster will likely be also 3 existing Characters plus 6 new Ones. And Companion from the Comics would be Maevaris.
Also Harding but i don´t label her as a Comic Character.
Um, DAI had 5 returning characters: Cassandra, Cole, Cullen, Leliana, and Varric.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Oct 3, 2018 15:15:49 GMT
Ok, straight up calling them now: Vaea Sir Aaron Hawthorne Tessa Forsythia Marius Charter Harding Olivia Pryde And possibly some others. Not all may be actual companions. I don’t know if all will be companions, but yeah I suspect at least one per comic so for example Vaea for Knight Errant, Olivia for Deception, etc. I can see others being either adviser-like characters or prominent NPCs.
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Post by Hrungr on Oct 3, 2018 15:58:16 GMT
Valya, the Grey Warden from the Last Flight novel is another possibility. (Especially if they decide to include griffons in the next game... )
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Post by gangrelbeckett on Oct 3, 2018 16:26:55 GMT
Um, DAI had 5 returning characters: Cassandra, Cole, Cullen, Leliana, and Varric. Cullen and Leliana aren´t Companions.
They are Advisors.
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Post by Serza on Oct 3, 2018 16:32:11 GMT
Ok, straight up calling them now: Vaea Sir Aaron Hawthorne Tessa Forsythia Marius Charter Harding Olivia Pryde And possibly some others. Not all may be actual companions. Thats very unlikely that we get more than one Comic Character as Companion if we consider previous DAs. DAA had one returning Character, DA 2 had 3 and DAI had 2 plus one from a novel.
I would say that the DA 4 Party Roster will likely be also 3 existing Characters plus 6 new Ones. And Companion from the Comics would be Maevaris.
Also Harding but i don´t label her as a Comic Character.
Even with your 3 old 6 new theory.
Vaea is new. Ser Aaron (spelled it wrong, some Fereldan I am) is new. Tessa is new. Marius is new. Olivia Pryde is new.
That's five.
Now Charter or Harding may make a come back, easily. Charter is shown to be important to the Inquisition as both Leliana's successor AND within the comics. Harding is one of the most requested companions. It is not unlikely BW will listen in that regard.
When it comes to to Charter, she is probably the one who will not return as companion, but rather in a more Leliana-like role.
This puts me at: Rogues: Vaea Tessa Harding Warriors: Marius Ser Aaron Hawthorne Mages: ? (Maybe Olivia, but her class is yet to be confirmed)
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Oct 3, 2018 16:43:10 GMT
Um, DAI had 5 returning characters: Cassandra, Cole, Cullen, Leliana, and Varric. Cullen and Leliana aren´t Companions.
They are Advisors.
And? We will most likely have characters like that in DA4 as well.
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Post by gangrelbeckett on Oct 3, 2018 16:44:22 GMT
Vaea is new. Ser Aaron (spelled it wrong, some Fereldan I am) is new. Tessa is new. Marius is new. Olivia Pryde is new. No they aren´t new. They already exist in these Comics like Cole in the Asunder Novel. Sorry but the Comic Companion would likely be Maevaris and no one else. Also Bioware Folks like her too.
Harding will be very likely DA 4 Connection Companion like Oghren, Anders and Varric before.
The Thread Question is only about Companions and not Advisors. Also we don´t know if Advisors kind of Characters will be returning in DA 4. DAO and DA 2 didn´t have them.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Oct 3, 2018 16:53:05 GMT
Using all the book and comic characters suggested, here is a possible list using DAI's layout: Advisers: Charter Maevaris ???
Mages: Olivia(?) Valya ???
Rogues: Harding Tessa Vaea
Warriors: Aaron Marius ???
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Oct 3, 2018 16:56:53 GMT
The Thread Question is only about Companions and not Advisors. Also we don´t know if Advisors kind of Characters will be returning in DA 4.DAO and DA 2 didn´t have them. I consider advisers equivalent to companions, but regardless I can still talk about characters who while not companions as in squadmates are companions as in will be with the protagonist. The fans have more and more shown a love and desire for non-squadmate companions, from the crew in Mass Effect to the advisers in Dragon Age, so I think there will be at least something like them in the game.
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Post by Serza on Oct 3, 2018 18:24:42 GMT
Using all the book and comic characters suggested, here is a possible list using DAI's layout: Advisers: Charter Maevaris ??? Mages: Olivia(?) Valya ??? Rogues: Harding Tessa Vaea Warriors: Aaron Marius ???
I could sign my name under that list.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Oct 3, 2018 18:28:36 GMT
Using all the book and comic characters suggested, here is a possible list using DAI's layout: Advisers: Charter Maevaris ??? Mages: Olivia(?) Valya ??? Rogues: Harding Tessa Vaea Warriors: Aaron Marius ???
I could sign my name under that list. Now we just need to figure out the romances.
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Post by Serza on Oct 3, 2018 18:32:33 GMT
I could sign my name under that list. Now we just need to figure out the romances.
Vaea pls...
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Oct 3, 2018 18:41:00 GMT
Now we just need to figure out the romances.
Vaea pls...
YES! I would love to have Vaea as a romance. Using that list from earlier. Straight: Marius(we know he has feelings towards Calpernia) Olivia(we know she has feelings for and slept with Aaron) Bisexual: Aaron(we know he is interested in women due to OLivia's flashback but hopefully men too so there can be at least a bi KISA) Harding(we know she is interested in both sexes due to the quasi-romance with the Inquisitor) Gay: Unknown male(can't really say anymore since they were unknown) Valya(I don't think her sexuality was ever revealed) "Extra"(by that I mean outside the 2/2/2 not they get less content): Maevaris(It would be great to have a trans romance, but I can see Biotraight option for males so would be another) Vaea(Definitely biased on my part, but Bioware has discussed making a romance with someone on the Ace Spectrum so would love if it was her) also not likely but adding it on the list just for fun but not counting: Charter/Tessa(We know they are in a relationship, but I remember Bioware saying they were interested in maybe doing a polyamorous relationship but it would have to be with an established couple.)
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Post by Vortex13 on Oct 3, 2018 19:11:58 GMT
One thing that needs to be a thing in DA 4 is for us to have an animal companion again, along with a dedicated companion slot for said animal.
Like the Dog Companion Slot Mod for Origins/Awakening. I would like to have a fully fledged out Mabari (for example) companion; one that I can equip items on, can partake in banter, and be issued tactical orders and commands during combat; but also one that doesn't take up one forth of the party line up.
I would be willing to give up the mount mechanic for such a feature to be honest. I would much rather have a trusted Mabari tagging along with me and my companions as we go out adventuring, than to have some teleporting horse that makes my companions disappear; along with all of their banter.
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Post by vertigomez on Oct 3, 2018 21:25:42 GMT
I'm kind of curious what the age range for our love interests will be in the next game. Each subsequent game has slowly been branching out.
In DAO, the Warden was quite young (headcanon aside, all of the Origins portray the Warden this way), and all of the LIs seemed to be in their early/mid twenties. Alistair was 20, Zevran was either 25 or 26, Leliana says she's older than she looks and I dunno about Morrigan, but I can't picture either of them being older than about 26 in DAO.
DA2 has Hawke at 23, 24 during the prologue (based on comments in Legacy), and I'd put DA2's various LIs in their mid twenties to early thirties. Except maybe Merrill. It's kind of hard to tell when they don't age over the course of ten years.
The Inquisitor was said to be anywhere between 20 and 40 years old, and based on a mix of official birth years and dev comments: in 9:41 Blackwall and Solas (his looks, not his.... actual age, obviously) are in their early/mid forties, Cass is 37, I'm assuming Bull is somewhere between 35 and 45 but who knows, Dorian is 30, Cullen is 29, Josie somewhere between 27 and 29, I'm guessing Sera is 20 or younger.
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Post by Catilina on Oct 3, 2018 21:45:06 GMT
I'm kind of curious what the age range for our love interests will be in the next game. Each subsequent game has slowly been branching out. In DAO, the Warden was quite young (headcanon aside, all of the Origins portray the Warden this way), and all of the LIs seemed to be in their early/mid twenties. Alistair was 20, Zevran was either 25 or 26, Leliana says she's older than she looks and I dunno about Morrigan, but I can't picture either of them being older than about 26 in DAO. DA2 has Hawke at 23, 24 during the prologue (based on comments in Legacy), and I'd put DA2's various LIs in their mid twenties to early thirties. Except maybe Merrill. It's kind of hard to tell when they don't age over the course of ten years. The Inquisitor was said to be anywhere between 20 and 40 years old, and based on a mix of official birth years and dev comments: in 9:41 Blackwall and Solas (his looks, not his.... actual age, obviously) are in their early/mid forties, Cass is 37, I'm assuming Bull is somewhere between 35 and 45 but who knows, Dorian is 30, Cullen is 29, Josie somewhere between 27 and 29, I'm guessing Sera is 20 or younger. When the DA2 starts (during the Blight), Hawke's 24~25, Anders' 30~31 (in Amaranthine – he spent almost two decades in the Circle, and was 12, when his magic manifested, probably same age like Nathaniel and Varric, who born in 9:01), Fenris probably like Hawke (I didn't find any data, just about Isabela) the siblings 19 (9:11 Dragon), like Dorian and Cullen (both born in 9:11), Alistair born 9:10), Merrill same age as Mahariel, so, probably like the siblings: 19~20 at the start of the game. Amell/Surana is 17~20 (Harrowing, Jowan older with 1-2 year.)
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Post by vertigomez on Oct 5, 2018 10:30:25 GMT
So any guesses as to who or what our "weird" otherworldly inhuman companion is going to be? In DAO we had a golem, in DA2 we had Carver, in DAI we had a spirit-boy and an ancient elven god... 🤔
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