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Post by JRandall0308 on Aug 17, 2017 14:37:38 GMT
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Post by akots on Aug 17, 2017 15:11:16 GMT
Thanks. Interestingly, I can see a double UR drop in a pity timer pack on your row 91 in second spreadsheet. This tells us that pity timer packs have regular pRNG dice throw. Otherwise, there won't be another UR. And there might be a simpler way to check independence. With large enough sample, double UR drop rate average should be exactly 0.0625 if UR drop is 0.25. But accurate estimate at 99% needs data about 6000 packs roughly. Ok, I put the gaps through an online KS calculator, I'll try something more advanced from home later but IDK what would work well with this dataset. I probably need to go back to your original dataset in the first file. And you have some weird outlier at 14 gap, not sure what was going on with this one, I just threw it out. So, median is exactly 4.0 which means that chance of UR is about 0.25 consistent with other data. But variability is quite high, so streaks are very likely. Notice that I did not throw out pity timer results, I just replaced 10 gap with 9 gap and it has no effect on distribution. It says not normal but it looks pretty much normal to me, it all depends on P value, and 0.01 is good enough. 70 data points were entered Mean = 3.714 95% confidence interval for actual Mean: 3.076 thru 4.352 Standard Deviation = 2.68 High = 9.00 Low = 0.00 Third Quartile = 5.25 First Quartile = 1.00 Median = 4.000 Average Absolute Deviation from Median = 2.17 KS says it's unlikely this data is normally distributed: P= 0.01 where the normal distribution has mean= 4.092 and sdev= 2.458 Items in Data Set 2: 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 1.00 1.00 1.00 1.00 1.00 1.00 1.00 1.00 1.00 1.00 1.00 1.00 1.00 1.00 1.00 2.00 2.00 2.00 2.00 2.00 2.00 2.00 3.00 3.00 3.00 3.00 3.00 3.00 3.00 4.00 4.00 4.00 4.00 4.00 4.00 4.00 4.00 4.00 4.00 4.00 4.00 4.00 4.00 5.00 5.00 5.00 5.00 5.00 6.00 6.00 6.00 6.00 6.00 7.00 7.00 7.00 8.00 8.00 8.00 9.00 9.00 9.00 9.00 9.00 9.00 I checked also with xuru www.xuru.org/st/ds.asp and it uses Anderson-Darling test that says it is normal at P = 0.02.
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Post by JRandall0308 on Aug 17, 2017 16:18:56 GMT
Second spreadsheet is not in purchase order. I re-sorted it to make deleting the non-P/A/Rs easier. I should have stated that, sorry.
If you want to look for pity timer stuff you need to take the first spreadsheets which is in order. And then filter out the non-P/A/Rs.
Also be aware the pity timer did get adjusted (to remove it from Expert packs) in patch 1.07 on 2017-05-18, row 171 ("pack number 158") on the first spreadsheet. And in patch 1.08 on 2017-06-08 is when they introduced Arsenal and Reserves packs, row 247 on the first spreadsheet. I don't think this should have re-set the pity timer but I honestly don't remember. Would need to look at my own data.
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Post by akots on Aug 17, 2017 17:16:52 GMT
Second spreadsheet is not in purchase order. I re-sorted it to make deleting the non-P/A/Rs easier. I should have stated that, sorry. If you want to look for pity timer stuff you need to take the first spreadsheets which is in order. And then filter out the non-P/A/Rs. Also be aware the pity timer did get adjusted (to remove it from Expert packs) in patch 1.07 on 2017-05-18, row 171 ("pack number 158") on the first spreadsheet. And in patch 1.08 on 2017-06-08 is when they introduced Arsenal and Reserves packs, row 247 on the first spreadsheet. I don't think this should have re-set the pity timer but I honestly don't remember. Would need to look at my own data. You still have a pity timer Premium pack on 4/29 which has 2 UR. Anyhow, did that. Anderson-Darling test for normality at xuru : P=0.01; means values are normally distributed. For other normality tests, I used contchart.com/goodness-of-fit.aspx which is kind of messy and is known to produce strange data sometimes. Also, different calculators produce different resulting P values which obviously sucks. Anyhow, for non-log tests, mostly normal I presume. Although there are some hiccups, probably due to larger streaks. So, pity drops do introduce some uncertainty at lower P values. Can't do nothing about it. Your goodness-of-fit test results: modelled by the normal distribution Kolmogorov-Smirnov test: P < 0.01 Anderson-Darling test: P < 0.001 Lilliefors-van Soest test: P < 0.01 Cramer-von Mises test: P < 0.005 Ryan-Joiner test: P < 0.010 d'Agostino-Pearson test: P = 0.076 Shapiro-Wilks test: P < 0.001 Calculated on 73 data points. Null hypothesis: "The data can be modelled according to the normal distribution." When the P value is small enough you can conclude that the data set is not following the normal distribution. How much "small enough" is depends on how rigorous you wish to be, but common threshold values for P are 0.05 or 0.01. The smaller the P value is, the more certain you can be that the data set doesn't follow the normal distribution. Warning: It is not good statistical practice to simultaneously use or report all of the tests above; use only one of the tests, and if possible decide a priori which of them you will use. For log tests, I just replaced all zero values (double UR) with 0.3 values. Otherwise, it cannot calculate. And it does not seem that distribution is log-normal, less likely than simple normal. But this is introduced essentially by pity timer drops and by double UR drops which log-normal tests cannot process. Your goodness-of-fit test results: modelled by the log-normal distribution Kolmogorov-Smirnov test: P < 0.01 Anderson-Darling test: P < 0.001 Lilliefors-van Soest test: P < 0.01 Cramer-von Mises test: P < 0.005 Ryan-Joiner test: P < 0.010 d'Agostino-Pearson test: P = 0.045 Shapiro-Wilks test: P < 0.001 Calculated on 73 data points. Null hypothesis: "The data can be modelled according to the log-normal distribution." When the P value is small enough you can conclude that the data set is not following the log-normal distribution. How much "small enough" is depends on how rigorous you wish to be, but common threshold values for P are 0.05 or 0.01. The smaller the P value is, the more certain you can be that the data set doesn't follow the log-normal distribution. Warning: It is not good statistical practice to simultaneously use or report all of the tests above; use only one of the tests, and if possible decide a priori which of them you will use.
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Post by DoctorDAM on Aug 19, 2017 13:08:45 GMT
What this is saying is that your chances to get at least 3 URs in 10 packs is 47.4% [...] The reason this is relevant this week is that with APs on sale on Xbox, you could buy enough APs for 3 Apex Elite Packs or 10 P/A/R packs. The math above shows that a little less than half the time, the 10 P/A/R packs are at least as good as 3 Apex Elite Packs looking only at URs (and obviously far better if you care about Rares and other stuff). TL;DR don't buy Apex Elite Packs. A quicker/simpler way to look at it: 25% means expected value is 0.25 per pack, or 2.5 for 10 packs (that includes the double-UR's, since the 25% estimate also included them). 3 AEP's means at least 3 UR's. So, if all you care about is UR's, then 3 AEP's is better. But yes, you will be getting a lot less other stuff. And all the above is, as you wrote, based on purchasing the Andromeda Points. (I'll have to go through a lot more solar eclipses before I consider buying). With credits, it is 6 to 1. So expected 1.5 UR's per 600K credits with P/A/R packs, 1+ with AEP (the "+" at this point being unknown). Editorial aside: $20 "sale" (never mind normal $30) is absurd amount for 3 UR's and a smattering of other stuff, especially with RNG. I detest this business model. All IMHO, of course.
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Post by RonnieBlastoff on Aug 19, 2017 23:44:45 GMT
Counted at least 6 instances in past 2 days where I went past 7 streak with no UR, I mean, I did get a double and 2 back to back in the group, still, 7 is 700k, thank god I'm still not capped on rare variants...
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