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Post by mattfon on Aug 20, 2017 0:48:21 GMT
Ever since they implemented multiplayer in this franchise it's ruined the game. Taking away resources that should go to the story. It happened with ME3 and again with MEA. Time to reject multiplayer entirely
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Post by ShadowAngel on Aug 20, 2017 0:51:29 GMT
Did the multiplayer really hurt the games? If so indulge me.
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Post by Sanunes on Aug 20, 2017 0:53:20 GMT
Do you have any facts besides "This is how I feel about it"?
I hate to break it to you, but the story in Mass Effect 1 and 2 weren't that great either, but I don't think there was multiplayer to be the boogie man of those games.
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Post by Daft Arbiter on Aug 20, 2017 2:08:31 GMT
Do you have any facts besides "This is how I feel about it"? I hate to break it to you, but the story in Mass Effect 1 and 2 weren't that great either, but I don't think there was multiplayer to be the boogie man of those games. Someone tries to wield "facts" on the BSN
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Post by bigbad on Aug 20, 2017 2:15:12 GMT
MP is one of the best things about ME3.
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Post by isaidlunch on Aug 20, 2017 2:15:31 GMT
A multiplayer mode that reuses assets, character models, guns/powers, and enemies from the single-player mode doesn't require as much extra resources as you might think
If you want to blame anything for taking up valuable time and effort you should be blaming open-world, not multiplayer
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Post by llandwynwyn on Aug 20, 2017 2:15:31 GMT
You should be thankful for ME3MP for providing enough money for EA that they were happy enough to give fans another ending. And for saving ME3 reputation, imo.
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Post by 10k on Aug 20, 2017 2:59:24 GMT
Ha, that's funny. MP was the best part of Andromeda and especially ME3. MP is the only reason I still play either one.
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Post by derrame on Aug 20, 2017 6:09:07 GMT
MP in MEยท is awesome, really fun and addictive
MP in MEA is the best part
there will be no SP DLC because the SP story is bad, not because MP
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Post by dmc1001 on Aug 20, 2017 6:11:20 GMT
Ever since they implemented multiplayer in this franchise it's ruined the game. Taking away resources that should go to the story. It happened with ME3 and again with MEA. Time to reject multiplayer entirely I've rejected it. Also responded to Gamble's tweet saying that I was glad that they finally acknowledged no SP dlc, though I was unhappy about it, and that MP was not in my future. If that's the message I want them to be aware of, I have to send it direct. But without being a jerk about it.
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Post by KaiserShep on Aug 20, 2017 7:33:17 GMT
I'm not a fan of multiplayer's integration into the franchise, but I don't really see how it really ruined it either. Take Inquisition. It doesn't factor into anything remotely meaningful in the entirety of the campaign. Just about the only thing that it really affects in SP is the random NPC's that stand out, like these party animals that apparently just came back from an Avvar rave. I guess one could argue that ME3's crappy Effective Military Strength could be attributed to multiplayer's inclusion so that there was some sort of tie-in that made MP feel like it made a difference, but if I'm perfectly honest, the EMS mechanic would probably have been there regardless. Just about the only thing I feel really affects the franchise in terms of multiplayer is the combat mechanics. But ME3 is a good example of the combat working well - I'd say the best of the trilogy myself. Whatever one can say about MEA's combat gameplay and its strict ability limits, you can't blame multiplayer for that. They could have done exactly what they did with ME3 and keep all of the singleplayer niceties.
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Post by sil on Aug 20, 2017 8:08:43 GMT
I always feel the MP would be better received if the additions for it were added to SP. Look at ME3, it added hazard maps and other new maps but they weren't added to SP. It added weapons and mods that never found their way into SP (until game mods added them), new powers, quite a lot of stuff. I'd have been more keen on MP if they had added to the SP with it.
For ME:A, they should've added the new batarian weapon to the SP game alongside its inclusion in MP. Also adding new news terminal messages about the ongoing MP Apex story would've been an interesting way of branching the two together.
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Post by JokeDealer on Aug 20, 2017 8:09:18 GMT
Ever since they implemented multiplayer in this franchise it's ruined the game. Taking away resources that should go to the story. It happened with ME3 and again with MEA. Time to reject multiplayer entirely Once again, this misconception rears its ugly head. Multiplayer does not steal resources! It's a ridiculous farce created by a fundamental misunderstanding of game development and supported by those who hate multiplayer on principle. It's not true in any sense. If there is no multiplayer, there are no multiplayer resources. When a game adds multiplayer, additional resources are given to create it because it increases the chance of the game selling via the inclusion of the multiplayer-gaming audience. An example of this would be how some bought Mass Effect 3 solely for the multiplayer. If multiplayer was suddenly cut, none of its resources would be given to single player content -- it would likely be put into another game entirely.
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Post by Transcended One on Aug 20, 2017 8:44:57 GMT
After the unexpected success and awesomeness that was Mass Effect 3 Multiplayer, I really don't understand why people still claim stuff like the OP.
Sure, not every multiplayer-tacked-on-singleplayer is a success, but in ME's case it's an extension of the fun of the campaign.
I personally never care about MP, but for ME it's different.
Either don't play the multiplayer, or at least give it a chance, but don't go around spewing crappy nonsense like this.
On a side note: Grand Theft Auto V, a highly successful title, never got additional story-content either, also the first of that franchise to not get any...
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Post by q5tyhj on Aug 20, 2017 8:48:43 GMT
MP is one of the best things about ME3.
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Post by LogicGunn on Aug 20, 2017 8:57:33 GMT
MP isn't my cup of tea, but it does seem well received. I'm more of a solo RPG gamer. I prefer my team mates to be AI. โบ
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Post by The Biotic Trebuchet on Aug 20, 2017 9:02:47 GMT
But... where else could you get one of these?
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Post by sil on Aug 20, 2017 9:05:03 GMT
But... where else could you get one of these? If only they had continued ME3MP for longer, we might've eventually ended up with Elcor and Hanar MP characters and MP maps set on the homeworlds. One can dream.
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Post by Scathane on Aug 20, 2017 9:09:10 GMT
Ever since they implemented multiplayer in this franchise it's ruined the game. Taking away resources that should go to the story. It happened with ME3 and again with MEA. Time to reject multiplayer entirely Once again, this misconception rears its ugly head. ย Multiplayer does not steal resources! ย It's a ridiculous farce created by a fundamental misunderstanding of game development and supported by those who hate multiplayer on principle. ย It's not true in any sense. If there is no multiplayer, there are no multiplayer resources. ย When a game adds multiplayer, additional resources are given to create it because it increases the chance of the game selling via the inclusion of the multiplayer-gaming audience. ย An example of this would be how some bought Mass Effect 3 solely for the multiplayer. ย If multiplayer was suddenly cut, none of its resources would be given to single player content -- it would likely be put into another game entirely. For the OP, that doesn't really matter: s/he probably feels that, as soon as those extra resources are hired, they should immediately be reallocated to SP or they'll become detrimental to the story. It's a form of entitlement, I think...
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Post by Scathane on Aug 20, 2017 9:10:02 GMT
But... where else could you get one of these? Is that a Rolus?
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Post by sil on Aug 20, 2017 9:10:03 GMT
It's not down to entitlement, its because the way games are allocated funds is not commonly known among the playerbase. It's lack of information not entitlement.
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Post by abaris on Aug 20, 2017 9:26:03 GMT
It's not down to entitlement, its because the way games are allocated funds is not commonly known among the playerbase. It's lack of information not entitlement. MP is also a continued cashcow with all the microtransactions going. So it's naive to demand putting a stop to it. I was opposed to ME3s multiplayer for the single reason that it meddled with galactic readiness and the SP campaign. They've take care of this aspect in MEA. You can do all of the APEX missions with strike teams, which suits me just fine, since I couldn't care less about the MP part of the game. I give them kudos for having learned since ME3, and that's all that matters.
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Post by Scathane on Aug 20, 2017 9:28:14 GMT
It's not down to entitlement, its because the way games are allocated funds is not commonly known among the playerbase. It's lack of information not entitlement. The way BW/EA allocate funds is a known unknown for all of us. An SP player stating that s/he yet thinks MP resources should have gone to SP nonetheless.., yeah, that classifies as entitlement in my book...
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Post by Jeremiah12LGeek on Aug 20, 2017 16:58:32 GMT
An "MP ruined SP" thread.
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Post by clips7 on Aug 20, 2017 17:22:05 GMT
I'm not a fan of Andromeda's MP... ....but ME3 MP?.... Ahhhh Bioware made some slick ME3 MP trailers back then.....i luv my Phoenix Vanguard!....
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