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Post by Pounce de León on Aug 29, 2017 13:02:37 GMT
I mean, this kind of says it all to me: How the hell can anyone be shorting a stock that does that? What more do you want as a shareholder - for EA to give you a foot massage while feeding you grapes? Because they are making you a SHITLOAD OF MONEY. We don't judge stocks on their past performance, we try to see if there is further "room for improvement" in the stock price. Usually these earnings figures are already priced in. Notable differences are stocks that are sluggish movers or nice reliable dividend payers. |
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Post by Scathane on Aug 29, 2017 14:22:27 GMT
I just invested my life savings in EA stock. Who's laughing now? The CEO of EA... whoever that is, I am too lazy to check. Not really. A CEO, as well as the entire Board of Directors and the rest of the company, answers to the shareholders, not the other way around. After all, they own the company. So if a CEO has tears in his eyes when stock prices plummet, it's not because of uncontrollable laughter but rather of pain caused by the tremendous kick in the arse the shareholders gave him: he'd be out faster than the Krogan Twins can spawn behind you... |
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Post by skauron on Aug 29, 2017 14:28:13 GMT
Quite probably that it was the driving force behind the sudden closure of one studio and the merger of another. Who knows what promise was made to the shareholders when they were launching ME:A, but one thing is for certain, when it didn't quite deliver their full expectations it became like Jenga.
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Post by Scathane on Aug 29, 2017 14:49:04 GMT
Well, on a side note, BioWare's CEO did make way for someone else. This could, of course, have been a personal decision but it might also have been a business decision, regardless of corporate communications about the matter to the world...
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Post by Pounce de León on Aug 29, 2017 15:11:05 GMT
Quite probably that it was the driving force behind the sudden closure of one studio and the merger of another. Who knows what promise was made to the shareholders when they were launching ME:A, but one thing is for certain, when it didn't quite deliver their full expectations it became like Jenga. It's a public company so any promise made to "the shareholders" is public. Any separate promise to subsets of "the shareholders" of a public company is illegal and prosecutable. |
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Post by JRandall0308 on Aug 29, 2017 15:28:24 GMT
My company promises to have (untold billions) in revenues by (not too long from now)... publicly! We are all under the gun to make it happen. If not our stock will take a beating and my retirement will look more grim than ever. Fun times!
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Post by Pounce de León on Aug 29, 2017 15:41:46 GMT
My company promises to have (untold billions) in revenues by (not too long from now)... publicly! We are all under the gun to make it happen. If not our stock will take a beating and my retirement will look more grim than ever. Fun times! Going short on JR's unnamed company. |
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Post by shinobiwan on Aug 29, 2017 15:46:05 GMT
Quite probably that it was the driving force behind the sudden closure of one studio and the merger of another. Who knows what promise was made to the shareholders when they were launching ME:A, but one thing is for certain, when it didn't quite deliver their full expectations it became like Jenga. It's a public company so any promise made to "the shareholders" is public. Any separate promise to subsets of "the shareholders" of a public company is illegal and prosecutable. Well it's possible to do a round of pref to finance cerain projects on different terms or to issue debt with conditions but I don't think that happened here. I do think that happened for certain games - e.g., FFXV. |
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Post by Scathane on Aug 29, 2017 16:22:47 GMT
Quite probably that it was the driving force behind the sudden closure of one studio and the merger of another. Who knows what promise was made to the shareholders when they were launching ME:A, but one thing is for certain, when it didn't quite deliver their full expectations it became like Jenga. It's a public company so any promise made to "the shareholders" is public. Any separate promise to subsets of "the shareholders" of a public company is illegal and prosecutable. Yup. Why not cite what is often considered the principal case in the States? Dodge Brothers vs. Ford Motor Company: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge_v._Ford_Motor_Co. Although it did leave a substantial amount of freedom for running a company as an exec, the bottom line is quite clear: any revenue/monetary surplus/profit is first and foremost allotted to shareholders. It's their profit... :ferengi: |
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Post by GordianKnot42 on Aug 29, 2017 17:28:05 GMT
They do still have code name "Anthem" in development, right? Maybe they'll take what they learned from MEA's mistakes and make something truly unsurpassable. ::wishfulthinking::
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Post by JRandall0308 on Aug 29, 2017 17:49:43 GMT
Maybe they'll take what they learned from MEA's mistakes and make something truly unsurpassable. No, they won't. Like most corporations, Bioware/EA is not set up to be a "learning organization". They do not have the feedback loops in place, nor the friendly conduit to their customers, that they would need. |
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Post by gethadept on Aug 29, 2017 17:59:46 GMT
They do still have code name "Anthem" in development, right? Maybe they'll take what they learned from MEA's mistakes and make something truly unsurpassable. ::wishfulthinking:: Learning from MEA`s mistakes alone won`t make anything unsurpassable. It might just be an OK game though. |
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Post by Pounce de León on Aug 29, 2017 18:17:33 GMT
They do still have code name "Anthem" in development, right? Maybe they'll take what they learned from MEA's mistakes and make something truly unsurpassable. ::wishfulthinking:: It Bob Dylan of games. |
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Post by angrybobh on Aug 29, 2017 18:30:49 GMT
Maybe they'll take what they learned from MEA's mistakes and make something truly unsurpassable. No, they won't. Like most corporations, Bioware/EA is not set up to be a "learning organization". They do not have the feedback loops in place, nor the friendly conduit to their customers, that they would need. This is the absolute truth. Just remember most of the time PT Barnum was correct in saying "there is a sucker born every minute". Most companies don't care what their current customer base really thinks about them because there is always more customers to be had. Why would they even need to learn from mistakes when they can just sell the same old crap to someone else? |
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Post by Scathane on Aug 29, 2017 18:45:51 GMT
They do still have code name "Anthem" in development, right? Maybe they'll take what they learned from MEA's mistakes and make something truly unsurpassable. ::wishfulthinking:: It Bob Dylan of games. ♪♫♬ |
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Post by JRandall0308 on Aug 29, 2017 19:31:41 GMT
Will Anthem be as overrated as Bob Dylan?
I guess Anthem would actually have to be somewhat good in order to be overrated, so I'm gonna go with 'no'.
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Post by Evil on Aug 29, 2017 21:34:28 GMT
Maybe they'll take what they learned from MEA's mistakes and make something truly unsurpassable. ::wishfulthinking:: You mean like how they learned from the mistakes of me3 and made Andromeda?  |
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Post by mushroomtagger on Sept 4, 2017 8:56:49 GMT
MEASP was insulting because it was poorly built incomplete game that only tried to mimic the success of other open world games. MEAMP was insulting because the game treated players as if we are kids who go crazy every time we receive stupid stuffs. I really tried to play this game and like it... but SP had no likeable character and MP is just hellish boring because I make no real advance with Bulwark and Concussive weapons dropping constantly. The SP felt very flat to me. It really wasn't the worst of all games in terms of plots and characters. But the whole game felt like the reboot Fantastic 4 in 2015. Was it the worst movie? No, but it was flat and really really boring. Same goes with MEA:SP, they have something special here but they just mishandled it. |
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Post by mushroomtagger on Sept 4, 2017 8:58:47 GMT
Maybe they'll take what they learned from MEA's mistakes and make something truly unsurpassable. No, they won't. Like most corporations, Bioware/EA is not set up to be a "learning organization". They do not have the feedback loops in place, nor the friendly conduit to their customers, that they would need. This is all about corporate culture and the upper management style. Sometimes the company is just destined to fall because they have out dated business practice, and culture that is impossible to change. |
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Post by mushroomtagger on Sept 4, 2017 8:59:23 GMT
Will Anthem be as overrated as Bob Dylan? I guess Anthem would actually have to be somewhat good in order to be overrated, so I'm gonna go with 'no'.That's what Spock would have said |
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Post by Spectr61 on Sept 7, 2017 4:10:14 GMT
Maybe they'll take what they learned from MEA's mistakes and make something truly unsurpassable. No, they won't. Like most corporations, Bioware/EA is not set up to be a "learning organization". They do not have the feedback loops in place, nor the friendly conduit to their caustomers, that they would need. But...But.... They are inclusive. They are socially conscious. They are diverse. They are environmentally friendly. Isn't that all they need? |
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