Greedfall

Maybe if someone comes from AC Odyssey, where the majority of the quests are "Go there, kill stuff and come back" (bringing that instant gratification drug of "Quest completed") and any further step might seem as backtracking. Is it better to have 5 quests with the same 2 steps or 2 quests with variable 4 steps? Which is funny, because the best quests in ACOD required you to run around, talk to NPCs, investigate and sometimes even use the information as an advantage (Pephka, the Trio of Boeotia and the Minothaur, anyone?).

I guess I’m used to the backtracking due to SWTOR. Lol

Right. It’s not like they use holocalls extensively. Oh right, they do. 😄

Or how in MEA they suddenly don't communicate via email or omnitool message anymore most of the time.
It's so much more convenient apparently to land on a planet to talk to somebody face to face for a minute. Then take off INTO SPACE only to be called back down because they forgot to mention something...

Please, Bioware, think of the environment! All that fuel is killing our children's future!

I still resent MEA's inane quest design with a passion. There is no game that enraged me more. I'm sure nothing can be that bad again, so playing Greedfall should be an improvement. Boyfriend said it's WAY better than MEA. That seems yo echo most people's opinion in here. So yeah, probably going to give this game shot eventually.

Oh, anybody also play Vampyr? Is the storytelling better or worse? Combat better or worse? I quite liked the game despite the usual AA jank and frustrating combat. It had pretty decent voice acting and I liked figuring out everyone's dirty secrets. Really liked the love story too.

I enjoyed Vampyr. It could have been without the combat and still just as good, because of a story. But then how could they tempt you to embrace anyone...that sweet exp...

I like Greedfall's combat better, but of course Vampyr had some pretty fun supernatural moves. Overall Greedfall's system is more polished and offers easier ways to create various builds. Never had enough EXP in Vampyr to really use too many abilities.

Both games have a different approach to the story. Vampyr is much more focused on the personal, psychological journey and the line between human and beast. Greedfall on the other hand focuses it's story on the world building, diplomacy and even detective adventures. If you ask me, both games succeed with their story goals.

I really loved the two hours I played of this game. And I got so, so motion sick. Games don't make me motion sick, but this one, oooh da lolly. I'm so jealous of everyone who has it on PC, as there is a mod to fix the head bob/whatever the hell it is that's making me sick. I'm on Xbox, so unless the dev comes out with a patch, I don't think I'm picking this up again. It's a real pity, I was really enjoying it.

Have a good time for me, y'all!

The camera sway left to right slightly when you move in a direction but doesn't move the camera, it also auto-center.

I guess I really don't notice the backtracking. I've been enjoying pretty much everything. Though it may have something to do with me wanting to kill everything that I come across to get more xp. So if I do run across the same mob of enemies, I'm happy. The game is fun and I hope for a sequel to it. I would really like to see more of this world, it's very interesting.

Oh Yeah, here is my character. I know there is so much limitation on the CC but I really love this armor. It's called "Merchant Prince's Ceremonial"

I suppose back tracking is a bit misleading. It's more that when you are doing some of the quests, to me they are actually seem padded out rather than detailed or fleshed out, meaning that there a whole lot of checkpoints like talking to someone for a mere ten seconds and then having to go and talk to another person for 10 seconds etc. that just seem to bloat the game with excessive travel that involves bouncing back and forth across the map for very little story development multiple times. It's essentially fetch questing but for information instead of items. As they game has progressed (I am at 17hrs) it has gotten better.

Iguess it may be a matter of perspective based on recent experience. Even though this games map and story is actually quite small the above points are quite an annoying part for me having come from Assassins Creed Odyssey which is massive. The quests in that are much better structured (IMO) and even though you have to travel sometimes to a whole new region to do something it seems necessary and meaningful and also fast travel is far more accessible (I.E. from anywhere to an FT point) and you do not always have to return to the quest giver to complete a lot of missions. Also the landscape/environment and the freedom to roam and get side tracked is glorious enough that in 500hrs of play I rarely used even my horse to travel anywhere over the whole thousands of kilometres of Greece. And in terms of the side quests hardly any of them are chores of any sort again IMO and are much larger and detailed in story and investigation and I rarely felt like I was just bouncing around like I do in Greedfall to pick up scraps of info.

Best way I can describe it.

I completely disagree with your first example, I just posted further down so won't repeat myself too much but I think in terms of side quests not message board quests which you seem to be referring to in ACOD they are far more complicated and interesting in regards to either their own story component or to the main story. Hell nearly any of Alkibiades or Sokrates quests pr The Lost Tales of Greece are better than nearly all the quests in Greedfall in my opinion.

And yes you run around talking to people and having meaningful and much longer interactions in most than you even do in half the companion quests in Greedfall. Give me a minotaur tour every day over most of the Greeedfall quests!!!!

The other Minotaur quests were far more involved than things like Petrus's first quest of go to the cellar investigate the two highlighted things, talk to the barman, talk to candy cane, go to this place wait till night talk to the magpie all quite boring and all for a sparing amout of information. And the travelling in the main minotaur quests was a highlight due to the landscapes and environments and being able to wander and get side tracked or here's a concept you could fast travel from anywhere to a fast travel point!!!!! 

Does interacting with posters have a requirement like Intuition or something? I looked at numerous posters and only remember two that you could interact with and yes they alluded to where to go but what was the point of putting the other steps in then if they were just a waste of time? I did them because I thought they'd provide more information or add to the quest not just waste my time which given the content they essentially did.