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Post by dragontartare on May 12, 2019 19:34:37 GMT
I have updated the first post regarding Conrad and the number of spies.
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Post by Space Cowboy on May 13, 2019 2:03:11 GMT
Ouch, sorry Fyl/Jack and Urdnot Owl. I had a feeling they would go for Owl since she hinted her role. It is unfortunate that Fyl can't say. I'm still suspicious of Gervaise but will hold of voting for now.
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Post by Space Cowboy on May 13, 2019 2:04:07 GMT
Guys, I'm lost. I read everything you guys posted and I am not a teeny bit wiser than I was yesterday. In fact, I am more confused since I'm not so familiar with GM dealings and how the mechanisms really work. I have no clue if anything goes on that I don't get. Still don't know what happened, still don't know which role it was. I guess I'll just wait until the night is over before I try to sort out this mess. It's ok, we weren't meant to know for sure
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Post by fylimar on May 13, 2019 5:20:26 GMT
Oh I can and will say, because I haven't interrogated anyone, I did nothing and wtf happened here? Since the spies only could eliminate one person, Wrex can't do anytjing at night and I repeat that I did nothing whatsoever, can someone explain to me, what just happened?
If Garrus shot me, that should have been reflected in the narrative. And nothing else crosses my mind atm. I'm a bit cross now
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Post by vella on May 13, 2019 6:32:13 GMT
Oh I can and will say, because I haven't interrogated anyone, I did nothing and wtf happened here? Since the spies only could eliminate one person, Wrex can't do anytjing at night and I repeat that I did nothing whatsoever, can someone explain to me, what just happened? If Garrus shot me, that should have been reflected in the narrative. And nothing else crosses my mind atm. I'm a bit cross now The narrative was a bit unclear so I think it might have been Evil Garrus who took the other hero down. Good Garrus shooting someone doesn't really make sense.
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Post by Chenowl Blanc on May 13, 2019 6:47:44 GMT
Oh no! Actually, I thought I was fairly safe since I hinted at my role and hence it was known that I don't have any protection abilities. If I had been a spy, I would have tried to hunt those down. Also, sorry that you're out Fyli. :/ Your power would have come in handy at a later stage. I tried to figure out what happened but I also don't have a different idea, so I guess it must have been Garrus. If Garrus shot me, he was definitely evil. If he shot fyli, he is more likely to be evil as well but I wouldn't completely dismiss the idea that Hero Garrus was just misguided. I am still confused by a few things: - if Tali/Legion were good, why not hint? With only one confirmed hero (Space) that would be a smart thing to do. - why didn't Arcadia (or anybody) pick up at all at the fact that Pela put her in a tie on day one? - why is Basia so quiet? She was good in the last two games and was actively participating. Now she is basically vanished. It doesn't seem like her style. Btw it is true that I can still keep on discussing here, correct?
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Post by pelassarias on May 13, 2019 7:09:47 GMT
- why didn't Arcadia (or anybody) pick up at all at the fact that Pela put her in a tie on day one? She actually did though, pretty much immediately after I voted for her. Is my voting record seen as suspicious though? If I was the spy during that situation, I would have definitely not intervened the way I did. And if I was Evil Tali again, I definitely wouldn't have voted Arcadia up, just to waste my ability to get dragon to take romice out.
Oh I can and will say, because I haven't interrogated anyone, I did nothing and wtf happened here? Since the spies only could eliminate one person, Wrex can't do anytjing at night and I repeat that I did nothing whatsoever, can someone explain to me, what just happened? If Garrus shot me, that should have been reflected in the narrative. And nothing else crosses my mind atm. I'm a bit cross now The narrative was a bit unclear so I think it might have been Evil Garrus who took the other hero down. Good Garrus shooting someone doesn't really make sense. Either that or Evil Mordin must have given a device to one of his accomplices during the first night. Either way, seems like the spies got a double kill last night.
ETA: Oh right! Totally forgot that Conrad and Mordin can't be present in the same game. Which means Evil Garrus had to have taken the shot last night.
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Post by vella on May 13, 2019 7:14:49 GMT
The narrative was a bit unclear so I think it might have been Evil Garrus who took the other hero down. Good Garrus shooting someone doesn't really make sense. Either that or Evil Mordin must have given a device to one of his accomplices during the first night. Either way, seems like the spies got a double kill last night.
We had Conrad in game, so Mordin shouldn't be in, right?
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Post by vella on May 13, 2019 7:22:39 GMT
From my point of view we have two confirmed heroes, Space and myself. Six other players remain:
Catilina Basia Arcadia Moonae Gervaise Pela
Two or three of them are spies, (can we have 3 spies plus Conrad?) most likely two though.
Heroes: Spaceranda
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Evil Tali Evil Garrus DraGonrad (eliminated) Fourth spy? (proably not)
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Post by gervaise21 on May 13, 2019 7:43:19 GMT
Okay, so the narrative does actually support an evil Garrus shooting Jack and the spies zapping Wrex or vice versa. They were engaged in war games when all is said and done and both were attacking holograms at the time. Fylimar had hinted an important role so that may have been the reason she was targeted. Fylimar had voted for Owl last round and vice versa so there is nothing to be gleaned from that. Basia voted for Fylimar to make a tie with Owl but then changed after Fylimar's hint. That could be the action of a genuine hero or a spy not wishing to be one of those responsible for eliminating an important hero.
I suppose the good news is that the spies appear to have used up their abilities, unless there were originally 4 spies. I only suggested increasing the number of spies to 3, including Conrad, for numbers over 10 but I notice the description now says he can be one of three or more, which is somewhat disturbing. We also know that Mordin is not in the game because he and Conrad cannot be in the same game.
The bad news from my PoV is that Fylimar didn't interrogate anyone so I'm back to being an object of suspicion. I was pleasantly surprised to have survived the night but I think that was because of the possibility of being able to frame me. Space even said beforehand that he thought I was going to be safe and I doubt that was because he thought someone would be protecting me but rather that as a spy I would be safe. Looking at the potential remaining roles they would all appear to have abilities that are activated during the night-time cycle, unless both Legion and Tali are in the game, so eliminating any of us during the day would not be a good idea.
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Post by fylimar on May 13, 2019 8:16:11 GMT
I would think, that evil Garrus did shoot me, but I got nothing from the narrative, so I wonder what really happened. Obsidian Gryphon when this round is over, please explain, what happened to owl and me, that would be great As for who to trust or not to trust: I trust noone except spaciranda. But as Jack, I would not have had enough to justify an investigation just now. I don't think, that gerva is more suspicious than the rest apart from space. And the comment about basia being unusual quite is worth thinking through, I guess. Cati is very quiet too.
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Post by ArcadiaGrey on May 13, 2019 8:29:58 GMT
At the Systems Alliance Training Complex the next day, the Normandy crew were put through their paces in live fire war games. The gunfire from rifles clamoured loudly, with the the sniper rifle barely audible. Shepard watched grimly as squads negotiated through the simulations, the incident at the airlock whirling in her head. Just reread it......sniper rifle. That would be the Garrus hint yes? Who he shot is a guessing game. Maybe a good Garrus took out Owl at night thinking it would save Wrex eliminating another player in the day, but that's kinda weak tbh and I doubt anyone would waste their ability like that. If he took out Fyl then he must've had a suspicion of her, or is evil.
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Post by vella on May 13, 2019 8:36:09 GMT
The good thing is that we most likely know now all the spy roles.
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Post by fylimar on May 13, 2019 9:19:36 GMT
I agree, I think, we have evil Garrus in play - again.
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Post by Space Cowboy on May 13, 2019 10:23:03 GMT
Oh no! Actually, I thought I was fairly safe since I hinted at my role and hence it was known that I don't have any protection abilities. If I had been a spy, I would have tried to hunt those down. Also, sorry that you're out Fyli. :/ Your power would have come in handy at a later stage. I tried to figure out what happened but I also don't have a different idea, so I guess it must have been Garrus. If Garrus shot me, he was definitely evil. If he shot fyli, he is more likely to be evil as well but I wouldn't completely dismiss the idea that Hero Garrus was just misguided. I am still confused by a few things: - if Tali/Legion were good, why not hint? With only one confirmed hero (Space) that would be a smart thing to do. - why didn't Arcadia (or anybody) pick up at all at the fact that Pela put her in a tie on day one? - why is Basia so quiet? She was good in the last two games and was actively participating. Now she is basically vanished. It doesn't seem like her style. Btw it is true that I can still keep on discussing here, correct? Yes you can keep on analyzing all you like, and sharing your thoughts.
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Post by Space Cowboy on May 13, 2019 12:24:28 GMT
Okay, so the narrative does actually support an evil Garrus shooting Jack and the spies zapping Wrex or vice versa. They were engaged in war games when all is said and done and both were attacking holograms at the time. Fylimar had hinted an important role so that may have been the reason she was targeted. Fylimar had voted for Owl last round and vice versa so there is nothing to be gleaned from that. Basia voted for Fylimar to make a tie with Owl but then changed after Fylimar's hint. That could be the action of a genuine hero or a spy not wishing to be one of those responsible for eliminating an important hero. I suppose the good news is that the spies appear to have used up their abilities, unless there were originally 4 spies. I only suggested increasing the number of spies to 3, including Conrad, for numbers over 10 but I notice the description now says he can be one of three or more, which is somewhat disturbing. We also know that Mordin is not in the game because he and Conrad cannot be in the same game. The bad news from my PoV is that Fylimar didn't interrogate anyone so I'm back to being an object of suspicion. I was pleasantly surprised to have survived the night but I think that was because of the possibility of being able to frame me. Space even said beforehand that he thought I was going to be safe and I doubt that was because he thought someone would be protecting me but rather that as a spy I would be safe. Looking at the potential remaining roles they would all appear to have abilities that are activated during the night-time cycle, unless both Legion and Tali are in the game, so eliminating any of us during the day would not be a good idea. So, you started suggesting Dragon was evil, for reasons that uncharacteristically don’t add up, after she had an opportunity to emulate Wrex. Can you convince me why I shouldn’t be suspicious?
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Post by gervaise21 on May 13, 2019 13:26:17 GMT
Okay, then, a few more thoughts:
Basia and Pela are not on the same team. By the time Basia voted for Pela it was way beyond the "vote for my fellow spy to throw them off" stage. Voting for Pela could have encouraged other people to do the same because we had all switched around a bit, particularly when people started having to reveal themselves to prevent being voted off. So at present I'm thinking that if one is a spy, the other isn't. At present I'm thinking that of the two, Basia is more likely the spy than Pela.
I think Pela makes a good point that it would have been pointless as a spy to vote for Arcadia and forcing the tie if the aim was to get Dragon voted off. This took place rather late in the day, so by then Owl had hinted at her role and the spies would have decided that Conrad should become false Wrex. Dragon had also successfully got two heroes to reveal themselves, Romice by far the most significant one. The spies couldn't be certain if there was another protective role in play but they certainly knew they could take out Liara with Conrad. So why get a fellow spy to waste their ability to ensure that outcome?
On the other hand, Arcadia did change her vote very late in the day, which put Dragon in the lead. It did seem only natural to do so, as she said, in order to save herself but it did also mean that Dragon was now set up to be voted off. Pela swapping to Arcadia afterwards rather spoiled this but there was little the spies could do about this without making the next person to put Dragon in the lead look rather suspicious once events unfolded. Arcadia mentioned having a not very important role but one she would like to get the chance of using. Now of course she could have been lying, or be a fourth spy with an unused ability, but on the basis of what we know about the spy roles at present if Arcadia was telling the truth about her role then that suggests she isn't a spy.
As for the other players. Catilina is always quiet and keeps his council whether hero or villain. He could have voted for Arcadia as a fellow spy when it didn't amount to much to do so and then later regretted it, or he could simply be a hero making a random vote not knowing what that person might be. For the present I'd suggest keeping a watching brief on him.
That leave Moon and Vela. Moon voted for me and stuck to it throughout. In view of the suspicion directed at me, I suppose that makes sense, although since I had removed my vote from her, she could have opted for a more active voting strategy. Still, I think Moon is genuinely busy in real life so that could be the reason.
I'm not sure what to make of Vela's voting. Initially I thought Dragon voting for her was a possible indication of innocence but now I'm not so sure. At the time Vela voted for Romice we didn't know who she was but a spy would know she was innocent. Dragon could have voted for Vela to deflect suspicion and then switched to Romice, so even though that would put two spies on the same person, people might think that wasn't the case because of her previous vote. Vela swapped to Moon from Romice putting her into a 3-way tie with Dragon and Arcadia. Think that is a fairly good indication that at least she is not on the same team as Moon or Arcadia if she is a spy. If she is on team spy then she would have to be evil Legion as that is the only way their strategy could've worked of ensuring that Dragon was eliminated in a tie-breaker situation. However, again, there is the comment of why waste an ability when voting for Dragon would have done the trick?
Now to sit back and watch how people respond to my musings.
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Post by vella on May 13, 2019 15:23:32 GMT
I will start the voting and go for Arcadia. I am pretty sure she was saved by a fellow spy Evil Tali.
So, I vote for Arcadia.
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Post by ArcadiaGrey on May 13, 2019 15:36:04 GMT
I'm going to start with voting for Gervaise, given his push towards Dragon in the first round (which kicked us in the butt in the end)
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Post by ArcadiaGrey on May 13, 2019 15:51:09 GMT
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Post by Catilina on May 13, 2019 15:58:05 GMT
I'm here, just working, sorry.
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Post by gervaise21 on May 13, 2019 16:43:50 GMT
I'm going to start with voting for Gervaise, given his push towards Dragon in the first round (which kicked us in the butt in the end) Strange this. I'm being voted for because I cast suspicion at Dragon as a possible spy after voting for you. Not my fault that one of the spies ensured Dragon got voted off and Conrad had adopted the persona of Wrex. However, you have to admit that I was right and Dragon was a spy. If I was a spy and in on it, surely it would have made more sense for me to change my vote to Dragon from Moon rather than you. So now I'm starting to think that I was right about you too. So back off or face the consequences.
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Post by basia on May 13, 2019 16:47:59 GMT
I'm sorry for not writing that much this round. Lately I've been a little busy and stressed out with some stuff. I read all the posts here, I just didn't feel like I have anything to add.
The only thing I can write is my reasoning for voting for Pela during the last day. As I mentioned earlier at first when I voted for Fylimar I just wanted to give Owl a chance as at that point she was the only one with two votes. I chose Fylimar since she was the one of the people who voted for Owl and the one who voted first. Then, when she stated that she was an important hero I decided to switch even if she didn't hint her role, because just last game, when I was a protection role I was in a similar situation, when people voted for me and I couldn't reveal my role to protect myself. I considered voting for Romi, who was the second person who voted for Owl, but I realised that since she had one vote already, she would be in danger of getting eliminated and she would most likely tell me that she was an important role as well and if I believed Fylimar's claim without any evidence it would be unfair to not do so with Romi. In the end I changed my vote to Pela, beacuse she didn't have any votes and was the only one who haven't had voted yet and since she couldn't vote for herself she was the safest choice. Of course other players could have switched their votes to follow me and vote for Pela as well, but then I still would have had my last vote switch.
To be honest I don't feel like I've been that inactive. I voted when was my time to vote, wrote my reasoning for it and changed my vote when asked to. I'm really sorry if that's too little, I'll try to write more.
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Post by ArcadiaGrey on May 13, 2019 16:51:49 GMT
I'm going to start with voting for Gervaise, given his push towards Dragon in the first round (which kicked us in the butt in the end) Strange this. I'm being voted for because I cast suspicion at Dragon as a possible spy after voting for you. Not my fault that one of the spies ensured Dragon got voted off and Conrad had adopted the persona of Wrex. However, you have to admit that I was right and Dragon was a spy. If I was a spy and in on it, surely it would have made more sense for me to change my vote to Dragon from Moon rather than you. So now I'm starting to think that I was right about you too. So back off or face the consequences. Ouch.
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Post by Space Cowboy on May 13, 2019 17:25:09 GMT
I'm going to start with voting for Gervaise, given his push towards Dragon in the first round (which kicked us in the butt in the end) Strange this. I'm being voted for because I cast suspicion at Dragon as a possible spy after voting for you. Not my fault that one of the spies ensured Dragon got voted off and Conrad had adopted the persona of Wrex. However, you have to admit that I was right and Dragon was a spy. If I was a spy and in on it, surely it would have made more sense for me to change my vote to Dragon from Moon rather than you. So now I'm starting to think that I was right about you too. So back off or face the consequences. Seems unnecessarily harsh. Lol. Was this a hint?
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