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Post by gervaise21 on Aug 5, 2019 19:20:58 GMT
Also in the first round Romice hinted at a role that needed more information before using her ability, whilst Fylimar claims to be a "not useless" hero. So it might be worth considering what roles are left that fit with these claims.
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Post by fylimar on Aug 5, 2019 19:54:25 GMT
I totally forgot pela
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Post by ArcadiaGrey on Aug 5, 2019 20:11:09 GMT
Me too. I only have one more change of vote so I'll sit on my hands and see what happens
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Post by dragontartare on Aug 5, 2019 20:21:38 GMT
...if anyone remembers for sure who is still in play, I can go update the first post. I have no idea what's going on anymore
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Post by basia on Aug 5, 2019 21:32:57 GMT
Players left in the game: Arcadia- Voted for Romi three times during the game, no hints (or at least I didn't get them) Basia- obviously a hero Fylimar Pela Romi- hinted, confirmed hero Personally I'm thinking of voting for Arcadia, but hints would be useful As for the roles: Javik, Wrex, EDI, Tali, Ashley, Kasumi, Chakwas, Emily Wong, Mordin, Conrad I doubt that Mordin is in this game.
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Post by Space Cowboy on Aug 5, 2019 22:04:47 GMT
...if anyone remembers for sure who is still in play, I can go update the first post. I have no idea what's going on anymore THanks Basia! ^
Here is the complete list for the first post
Current Player List 1. Romice 2. Basia 3. Pelassarias 4. Catilina Legion agent out 5. Gervaise Grunt out 6. Fylimar 7. Obsidian Gryphon Garrus out 8. Arcadia 9. Dragontartare Liara out
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Post by ArcadiaGrey on Aug 5, 2019 22:14:17 GMT
Arcadia- Voted for Romi three times during the game, no hints (or at least I didn't get them) My ineptitude is making me look suspicious. I admit I didn't read back over the thread. I've also gotten hopelessly mixed up with the Wolf Hunt game and I didn't realise I voted for Romi 3 times here. My reasons for voting for her were as I said - I believed Basia's hint so she was out, I forgot Pela was in play, so that left Fyl and Rom. I went for Fyl in the Wolf Hunt game like a dog with a bone, and was wrong, so I felt bad about voting for her again. That left Romi. Once it was pointed out that Dragon hinted her innocence, I changed immediately.
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Post by pelassarias on Aug 6, 2019 1:38:03 GMT
Aw man , I was hoping the spies wouldn't have picked up on dragon being Liara, especially since she was really subtle about it. Still, dragon did what she could regarding Cati, now we just have to get the remaining spy or spies. First things first though. If I remember the first night correctly, I believe we have a Good Miranda in this game. So who is Miranda? The rest of the Heroes knowing who Miranda is now can help whittle down the suspect list along with possibly getting more information. Is it wise for Miri to reveal herself though? At this point, it is. Miri has no stakes in outing herself since she has already used her ability, and the Heroes need to whittle down the suspect list as much as they can.
Also basia, if you're feeling inclined to hint, like say Miranda for example, just say you're genetically perfect, a biotic/tech squadmate, etc. Anything information that tells us who you can be. But only hint if you have zero stakes in doing so.
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Post by pelassarias on Aug 6, 2019 1:53:01 GMT
I realise she has hinted at Wrex but she could be the last spy. I voted for Cati last round along with dragon , fylimar, and romice. Maybe if other players seemed more certain of Cati's Evilness, then sure, as spy I would have voted along as well. But alot of people besides dragon was pretty uncertain for Cati. If I were spy, I would have definitely taken advantage of that and opted to go for someone else. Instead, I opted for Cati because I knew dragon was Liara and who than likely checked Cati, which would explain her behavior and certainty about Cati last round.
IMO the people who seemed doubtful about Evil Legion, voted for romice, and didn't catch on that dragon was Liara seem a little suspect to me, especially considering that it's very likely that one of them did in fact knew that dragon was Liara.
Romice on the other hand, not completely sure about if I'm going to be honest. If romice is actually Evil then her vote towards Cati would make some sense considering she was the other player at risk for elimination. On the other hand, she could be a Hero as well.
Before I make a vote though, I still want to hear from a certain genetically perfect former Cerberus officer.
ETA: Okay, I'm officially caught up now. Right now I trust fylimar, basia, and romice. So I suppose this leaves me with Arcadia.
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Post by ArcadiaGrey on Aug 6, 2019 9:01:20 GMT
Oh dear. That's what you get when you decide to save your ability till the end I was hoping to use it bit if I do go, at least there is still a strong hero/spy ratio for the next round.
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Post by gervaise21 on Aug 6, 2019 9:23:36 GMT
Whilst you may all be correct in thinking Arcadia is the spy, I am slightly bothered by the continued assumption that Romice has been proven innocent by Liara and thus Arcadia was suspicious in continually voting for her. If it were that obvious she would have to be a lousy spy to have carried on voting for Romice in the face of the evidence. However, Basia said this as her reason for thinking Romice had been investigated: But didn't Dragon hint that she investigated Romi the night before her elimination? I am talking about her first post after Gervaise's elimination. This is what Dragon actually said: I agree with this reasoning. Assuming Liara followed this advice, she either would have investigated romice or catilina last night. I feel like catilina has been quieter than usual, so I'll vote for him and see if Liara objects.
This to me suggests that she investigated Catilina during Night 2. Clearly she could not have investigated him on Night 1 or she would have voted for him in the first round, when Pela and I did. Since Romice was denying being Legion and Catilina had as good as admitted to it, it made sense that Liara would have investigated him first rather than Romice, regardless of whether she thought Romice was innocent or not.
If Dragon had investigated Romice first night and found her to be innocent, why didn't she vote for one of the players who voted for her rather than a random vote for OG? She queried why Arcadia had voted for Romice but seemed happy with her answer.
I'd also draw attention to what I said before my elimination:
If, as people seem to think, Legion is evil, then it makes Romice suspect too. The reason I say this is that Romice was hinting at a role that needed information if she was going to use it effectively. In fact I suspected that she might be Legion because of this. However, there are other roles that would fit this description and the spies would want eliminated, so rather than go for an unknown role in OG, it made sense to go for Romice. I was saying this before Catilina was proven to be both Legion and evil. It still troubles me that when Romice was hinting at an important role that needed information before she could use it effectively, which screams Legion, Jack or Garrus to me, Catilina (who knew he was Legion) instead chose to go for OG. Now Fylimar is also claiming to be a "not useless" role. Well, technically, none of the roles are absolutely useless but some are more effective than others because they do not rely on some other condition being met, like only being eliminated overnight. So may be a protective role, like Kasumi or EDI. So if Arcadia turns out not to be the spy, Basia is Miranda and Pela is good Wrex, then the remaining spy has to be one of these two. Just putting this out there for the consideration of the genuine heroes and their actions overnight.
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Post by ArcadiaGrey on Aug 6, 2019 9:33:33 GMT
Well now I wanna go vote for Romice again.
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Post by romice on Aug 6, 2019 10:52:05 GMT
Apparently everyone missed my clue, except for the Cheerleader of all people Or the spies are pretending they didn't get it.
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Post by ArcadiaGrey on Aug 6, 2019 11:15:53 GMT
Space, can we keep the voting open til this evening so we can chat about Gerva's thoughts? I might switch again
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Post by Space Cowboy on Aug 6, 2019 11:39:58 GMT
Space, can we keep the voting open til this evening so we can chat about Gerva's thoughts? I might switch again Yup, I haven’t set a deadline yet.
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Post by Moonae on Aug 6, 2019 11:43:51 GMT
Apparently everyone missed my clue, except for the Cheerleader of all people Or the spies are pretending they didn't get it. I got it, for whatever that's worth since I wasn't even in this game
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Post by ArcadiaGrey on Aug 6, 2019 12:02:58 GMT
Apparently everyone missed my clue, except for the Cheerleader of all people Or the spies are pretending they didn't get it. I got it, for whatever that's worth since I wasn't even in this game Still clueless
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Post by gervaise21 on Aug 6, 2019 15:07:48 GMT
Apparently everyone missed my clue, except for the Cheerleader of all people I got your original clue and I guess my assessment of your likely role is correct in view of how you describe Miranda. So on that basis, I guess the heroes have nothing to worry about because if you are wrong about Arcadia, then they can rely on you to clear up their mess. (Still think Catilina was crazy not to take you out when he had the chance) Still clueless It is the use of the word "Cheerleader" to describe Miranda. Only one person does that.
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Post by fylimar on Aug 6, 2019 15:12:48 GMT
Apparently everyone missed my clue, except for the Cheerleader of all people I got your original clue and I guess my assessment of your likely role is correct in view of how you describe Miranda. So on that basis, I guess the heroes have nothing to worry about because if you are wrong about Arcadia, then they can rely on you to clear up their mess. (Still think Catilina was crazy not to take you out when he had the chance) Still clueless It is the use of the word "Cheerleader" to describe Miranda. Only one person does that.
Ok, I might get it now, but since I'm not that familiar with the ME cast, it took me a while.
So probably not a good idea to vote out romice?
I'm not sure about pela, she could be evil Wrex. But I won't vote for her of course, self preservation and so.
That leaves Arcadia and basia for me and I'm not sure, what to believe here
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Post by romice on Aug 6, 2019 16:45:41 GMT
That leaves Arcadia and basia for me and I'm not sure, what to believe here Basia hinted at being Miranda and nobody questioned her, so I think we can trust her. The only other person I trust, actually.
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Post by fylimar on Aug 6, 2019 18:13:05 GMT
Well in this case, it's Arcadia or pela
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Post by Space Cowboy on Aug 7, 2019 1:37:53 GMT
Arcadia 3 Fylimar 1 Still to vote Basia
I'll leave it open for 24 hours. more if discussion picks up.
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Post by pelassarias on Aug 7, 2019 6:01:15 GMT
Romice, I got your hint when I went back to catch up, which is why I trust you. And I suppose given my past history as spy, it is reasonable for you guys to hold some sort of suspicion towards me. Although it is worth noting that I typically vote for my own as spy when I feel like my back is against the wall. Luckily though I am pretty certain about my suspect so should you guys have some sort of last change of heart we will more than likely get a spy no matter what. And even if I don't in this scenario, Jack should be very certain about the last spy at that point in order for us to win.
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Post by basia on Aug 7, 2019 18:49:31 GMT
Honestly, I have no idea who to vote for. The only person I trust is Romice. Arcadia did not hint and that makes me suspicious, also voting for Romi three times amplifies that. Still, I think that her confusion is not completely unbelieveable. Fylimar didn't hint and did nothing out of the ordinary, which makes me suspicious of her as well . And surprise, surprise I don't really trust Pela.. I'll vote for Arcadia. Hopefully if she is a hero she'll hint or defend herself.
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Post by fylimar on Aug 7, 2019 19:12:52 GMT
Honestly, I have no idea who to vote for. The only person I trust is Romice. Arcadia did not hint and that makes me suspicious, also voting for Romi three times amplifies that. Still, I think that her confusion is not completely unbelieveable. Fylimar didn't hint and did nothing out of the ordinary, which makes me suspicious of her as well . And surprise, surprise I don't really trust Pela.. I'll vote for Arcadia. Hopefully if she is a hero she'll hint or defend herself. I did hint a bit. Since I don't know all the characters from ME (I have quit playing the games halfway through the second game, because the fighting bored me), I can't get into much detail, but it was a little hint
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