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Post by fylimar on Jun 2, 2018 19:50:28 GMT
Sorry to sound a bit ignorant, but are we voting now? And if so, I pm dragon?
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Post by gervaise21 on Jun 2, 2018 20:32:05 GMT
Sorry to sound a bit ignorant, but are we voting now? And if so, I pm dragon? Yes, that's correct. It's a secret vote.
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Post by dragontartare on Jun 2, 2018 22:27:31 GMT
Yup, some have already voted, in fact. If you'd prefer to keep discussing, you can do that too
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Post by Catilina on Jun 2, 2018 22:46:51 GMT
I haven't any clue. We know, that our suspect is a male in Normandy. But we can't hint anything about who we are. It's still hard. So... random roll?
Who voted already?
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Post by dragontartare on Jun 3, 2018 0:01:23 GMT
Role hinting isn't against the rules (we hadn't actually discussed that), but I think people are thinking it isn't a good strategy this time. That's up to you, though.
As for who voted already, I'm not sure if I should reveal that, since votes are secret. What do you all think?
I will say that most people haven't voted yet.
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Post by dragontartare on Jun 3, 2018 4:09:16 GMT
Have...have I killed the game?
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Post by Space Cowboy on Jun 3, 2018 5:19:01 GMT
Have...have I killed the game? I doubt it I'm not voting right? A bit confused about that.
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Post by romice on Jun 3, 2018 6:03:15 GMT
Have...have I killed the game? No, of course not. The first round is always hard to get going, and with secret voting there is no "ok, this person voted, now I can make my vote and not be accused of jumping in too fast" and any other normal strategies like retaliatory votes. I think we just need to get used to that
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Post by gervaise21 on Jun 3, 2018 7:36:11 GMT
We had secret voting during the first round of the last Skyhold game. What surprised the spies when everything was revealed at the end of the game was that despite the fact there were three of us, our collective vote was not the one that counted as apparently more people had independently voted for a different person. There we were not allowed to give clues as to identity but people did seem to be influenced by gift giving choices in that first round.
Over here on the Citadel we are allowed to give clues as to identity if we wish but of course there are many reasons why people are going to be reluctant to do so. Even revealing gender could be risky and lead to suspicion being directed at you. I don't think anyone has done anything so far that would automatically make me suspicious of them so essentially we are voting blind. However, is that so very different to being able to see the votes and everyone voting for someone different? In the end it could come down to just two people voting the same way.
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Post by pelassarias on Jun 3, 2018 7:37:52 GMT
Yeah, first rounds lately are just a bit slow, since most players tend to be undecided on who should get axed early and why. But after we all make up our minds after the first round, things do tend to get going since we get more info on who could possibly be the spy. This game won't be any different, even with the new rules.
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Post by gervaise21 on Jun 3, 2018 7:46:38 GMT
I figure it's for the best if we discuss theories out in the open even if the actual voting is secret. Otherwise we'll continue to have nothing to go on as the game progresses as there won't be any voting patterns. Actually after the first round it will be possible to quiz the captured spy about who voted for whom (as he will be given the information) so it will be possible to build up some information on voting patterns.
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Post by fylimar on Jun 3, 2018 8:46:37 GMT
Ok, thanks guys for confirming that. At the moment I, like probably most others, are a bit wary to hint.
There is not much to vote on. Moonaes idea with the questions isn't bad, but in my case, I only came up with one question, since pelashep had already suggested my two other ideas (alien-human, in all games or not). And others , who came even later, might not have had a good idea because they were already suggested. I have to think a bit longer
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Post by dragontartare on Jun 5, 2018 23:43:26 GMT
I need to double check my spreadsheet, but I believe all the votes are in. I can't sit and write the narrative right now, so you have a few hours in which to change your mind.
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Post by dragontartare on Jun 6, 2018 20:41:11 GMT
Uh, I know I haven't posted the narrative yet. Yesterday got away from me BUT...it occurred to me that maybe I should occasionally tell you how many votes each person has, even if the votes themselves are done in secret. That would give people the opportunity to mount a defense if they so choose. Right now, our current "winner" has no idea they are about to be eliminated. What do you think?
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Post by Space Cowboy on Jun 6, 2018 21:08:13 GMT
Uh, I know I haven't posted the narrative yet. Yesterday got away from me BUT...it occurred to me that maybe I should occasionally tell you how many votes each person has, even if the votes themselves are done in secret. That would give people the opportunity to mount a defense if they so choose. Right now, our current "winner" has no idea they are about to be eliminated. What do you think? Thats probably a good idea
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Post by pelassarias on Jun 6, 2018 21:28:27 GMT
Uh, I know I haven't posted the narrative yet. Yesterday got away from me BUT...it occurred to me that maybe I should occasionally tell you how many votes each person has, even if the votes themselves are done in secret. That would give people the opportunity to mount a defense if they so choose. Right now, our current "winner" has no idea they are about to be eliminated. What do you think? Since this can give a Hero or the last spy a chance to possibly sway the votes with a defense, without revealing which players voted for the player on the chopping block, I definitely see no issue with this change.
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Post by dragontartare on Jun 6, 2018 22:10:32 GMT
Ok, the votes stand thus:
Moon: 3 gervaise: 2 reed: 1 fylimar: 1
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Post by Moonae on Jun 7, 2018 5:24:11 GMT
Ok, the votes stand thus: Moon: 3 gervaise: 2 reed: 1 fylimar: 1 What, cause I tried to start a conversation? Come on guys! Or I suppose two of those could be spies? So only one of the good guys then? That makes the most sense. There's no reason for the spies to spread their vote when it's secret, so the two of them voted for either me or gervaise. If the spies are on gervaise then three heroes found me the most suspicious. Did I really do something that bad?
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Post by romice on Jun 7, 2018 6:13:33 GMT
Ok, the votes stand thus: Moon: 3 gervaise: 2 reed: 1 fylimar: 1 What, cause I tried to start a conversation? Come on guys! Or I suppose two of those could be spies? So only one of the good guys then? That makes the most sense. There's no reason for the spies to spread their vote when it's secret, so the two of them voted for either me or gervaise. If the spies are on gervaise then three heroes found me the most suspicious. Did I really do something that bad? On the other hand, we will be asking Space questions after the elimination, so maybe it would make sense for them to split their votes?
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Post by gervaise21 on Jun 7, 2018 8:13:21 GMT
Or I suppose two of those could be spies?
Sorry but I'm a bit confused here. Since we have been asking questions about an "accomplice" in the singular, I assumed there was only one. So does Space get a vote?
EDIT: I've just counted the number of votes cast and it is 7 so that means Space does not get a vote as there are only 8 of us in total.
I'm pretty sure that everyone else thought there was only one spy to find or the questions don't make sense. If there are two spies then they could be both male and female. If there are two spies then one could have been around for all three games and the other could be a late addition. I have been working to the assumption that there is one spy and indeed it would seem Commander Shepard has been. This is why we could say with some certainty that the spy is male and has been part of the Crew for all three games. It was why we could definitely discount Emily Wong as she is female and not part of the Normandy crew. Of course she may not even be present this game but if she is then she is in the clear.
EDIT: Correct that assumption. The reason we could discount Emily Wong is that she has never been on the Normandy. Whilst my suggested question mentioned all 3 games, the agent's answer was ambiguous. He simply said that the spy had never been on the Normandy. This was a lie but it made no mention of duration of time spent on the Normandy. So Commander Shepard was quite right in saying that male crew members were suspicious without narrowing the field any further.
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Post by Moonae on Jun 7, 2018 8:56:31 GMT
I just assumed Space had a vote. I haven't gotten the new rules all that well. When was it defintely established that the captured spy doesn't vote?
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Post by Space Cowboy on Jun 7, 2018 11:56:04 GMT
I just assumed Space had a vote. I haven't gotten the new rules all that well. When was it defintely established that the captured spy doesn't vote? I asked earlier and received a reply in pm from Dragon. No voting for me.
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Post by sgtreed24 on Jun 7, 2018 13:07:25 GMT
Only one vote out of all of these should be from a spy (iirc they surprisingly chose not to take on a partner in round 1) so... the spy vote could be on any one of us with at least one vote.
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Post by fylimar on Jun 7, 2018 15:22:19 GMT
It's strange, that all votes are only split among four player.
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Post by dragontartare on Jun 7, 2018 16:45:56 GMT
Updated votes
Moon: 2 gervaise: 2 reed: 1 fylimar: 1 Catilina: 1
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