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Post by dragontartare on Dec 16, 2020 19:35:33 GMT
I should probably retire from this game, because no one will ever believe me again Which means you'll never retire from the game! Hah-hah! Not fooling me anymore.
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Post by seven on Dec 16, 2020 20:01:34 GMT
Now dragon has more time for ACV and Cyberpunk
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Post by dragontartare on Dec 16, 2020 20:46:09 GMT
Now dragon has more time for ACV and Cyberpunk I'm done with Valhalla for now, but definitely more time for Cyberpunk! You wouldn't be that cruel
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Post by Space Cowboy on Dec 17, 2020 0:09:54 GMT
Now dragon has more time for ACV and Cyberpunk I'm done with Valhalla for now, but definitely more time for Cyberpunk! You wouldn't be that cruel
Nah, and I'll pass on the tartare too
How was Valhalla? And how do you like Cyberpunk?
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Post by dragontartare on Dec 17, 2020 3:22:08 GMT
I'm done with Valhalla for now, but definitely more time for Cyberpunk! You wouldn't be that cruel Nah, and I'll pass on the tartare too How was Valhalla? And how do you like Cyberpunk?
I really liked Valhalla. I finished the main story (stories?) over the last few days and I look forward to going back to the game later for seasonal content and DLCs. I may actually go back before then to do some of the side content I left unfinished. It's not a perfect game by any means. The ending's pacing is weird (but not as weird as Odyssey's ending), and it's still a buggy mess, but I could see replaying this one. It's still too early to tell for Cyberpunk. I'm three hours in, and a good chunk of that is tutorial and character creation. I don't like the first person perspective and I think I'm going to have a hard time identifying with a character that I only see in photomode, but hopefully the rest of the game will make up for that.
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Post by Chenowl Blanc on Dec 17, 2020 8:29:45 GMT
Says the one who buckled and changed her vote. Also I was right that there were originally 3 spies in play. Which means there is definitely still one spy to find, plus presumably Morinth. Anyway, let's see what they do overnight. That's what I thought after reading pela's poem! I am so happy we got one of the baddies but I am just equally confused at this point. Edit: Wait a sec. Maybe I'm not that confused. What if it was not originally 3 spies but one additional one because of Conrad who admired one of the baddies? Also, dragon - you played a great game, you almost had us fooled! Hope you enjoy Cyberpunk, and also that you stick around here and watch the rest of the game unfold.
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Post by Space Cowboy on Dec 17, 2020 10:16:28 GMT
Edit: Wait a sec. Maybe I'm not that confused. What if it was not originally 3 spies but one additional one because of Conrad who admired one of the baddies? I don't think that would count as one of the baddies, not enough to keep the game going. Maybe Pela can confirm?
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Post by gervaise21 on Dec 17, 2020 14:58:51 GMT
Edit: Wait a sec. Maybe I'm not that confused. What if it was not originally 3 spies but one additional one because of Conrad who admired one of the baddies? Conrad is not allowed to vote for the person he admired. Unless Seven has been playing a very strange game or you have been lying, then the only person who could be Conrad is Space. He has voted for both the evil ones, plus you and Seven, so it follows that he cannot be shadowing a spy. Either he would be duplicating a hero who has already been eliminated or he is duplicating one of those still left in the game. (Or he has been lying with his answers and so is not Conrad at all) I could be wrong about this but I think that if Conrad is shadowing a spy, then he assumes their role in its entirety should they be eliminated, so the spies could still win the game with just Conrad in play for them. However, Morinth cannot win on her own.
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Post by pelassarias on Dec 17, 2020 19:04:03 GMT
Wait a sec. Maybe I'm not that confused. What if it was not originally 3 spies but one additional one because of Conrad who admired one of the baddies? Yes, this can happen, and is how Conrad operates if he mimics an agent. If he mimics an agent and should they die, he will join the spy chat and will become an agent. He will also acquire the ability that the agent he mimicked had.
There also seems to be a slight confusion over how Morinth operates if all the spies get eliminated as well. So I just want to clarify to everyone that Morinth loses once she gets eliminated. If she is still in the game, she can still win and the Heroes have to eliminate her in order to win. However, if all the spies are dead, it will be harder for Morinth to win. Also, if I do feel as if it's pretty much impossible for Morinth to win then I'll end the game then and there after discussing it with Morinth.
I think this confusion though is probably due to how I explained how Morinth operates initially so my apologies to everyone for that.
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Post by pelassarias on Dec 19, 2020 6:55:08 GMT
After The Third Meetingmedia.giphy.com/media/3ov9k1173PdfJWRsoE/giphy.gif arms reaching out ship's about to land victory on the horizon but still, there was more lurking about, lips snarled looking for their one and only chosen
but to their surprise they were gone no longer in his room but with the others which left the asari once again alone and feeling number
just a little more time, they wagered before the ship was theirs
a little more time they mused before they take them all without a single care
and how will they do this? with the time ticking by? only time will tell before another meeting is called and they'll have to tell another lie
but perhaps luck and a little skill will be by their side perhaps a little rage will be just enough to turn the enormous tide
and so the innocents braced for worst scarred from the previous nights but to their surprise, there were no claws, nor was there rise from the vents; they were simply alone with their fright ---------------- Player Eliminated: No one
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Post by gervaise21 on Dec 19, 2020 8:21:24 GMT
Well that's an interesting development but clearly our protector came through for us. Keep holding the line heroes.
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Post by Chenowl Blanc on Dec 20, 2020 11:06:03 GMT
Yay, we're all alive! Here's the thing though: I don't think it had to do with protecting, that wouldn't fit with the narrative. I think there is just Morinth left, hence no deaths but dadi still blackmailed. So that leaves either seven or Space - and for Space to be Morinth, he would have had to lie on almost every question he's been asked so far. Seven didn't have to lie as much, she just had to put us on the wrong track (which in my case, she did very well xD). So what I would do is vote for seven today. Thoughts?
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Post by Space Cowboy on Dec 20, 2020 11:31:40 GMT
Here's the thing though: I don't think it had to do with protecting, that wouldn't fit with the narrative. I think there is just Morinth left, hence no deaths but dadi still blackmailed. I agree that's what the narrative sounds like.
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Post by ArcadiaGrey on Dec 20, 2020 11:52:31 GMT
Yay, we're all alive! Here's the thing though: I don't think it had to do with protecting, that wouldn't fit with the narrative. I think there is just Morinth left, hence no deaths but dadi still blackmailed. So that leaves either seven or Space - and for Space to be Morinth, he would have had to lie on almost every question he's been asked so far. Seven didn't have to lie as much, she just had to put us on the wrong track (which in my case, she did very well xD). So what I would do is vote for seven today. Thoughts? And you
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Post by Space Cowboy on Dec 20, 2020 11:54:45 GMT
So what I would do is vote for seven today. Thoughts? I'm all for not voting for me What about you, Owl? I know, from your perspective, assuming you are not Morinth, there are only 2 possibilities, as far as we understand. But are you generally exonerated? Should the rest of us not include you as a suspect? Also, another point of clarification, Pela? Since Morinth is not officially team evil, if, hypothetically speaking, Charr fell in love with her (and didn die instantly to her power,lol) would he be team evil anyway, or still team good? Edit: And same goes with Conrad, really. What if he admired Morinth?
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Post by Chenowl Blanc on Dec 20, 2020 13:10:29 GMT
My post was written from my perspective, obviously. So for me there are only 2 suspects at this point, and I won't pretend it's otherwise just to give room to your suspicions. If you want, you can vote me out first, I don't have any problems with that - as long as you vote seven and (if need be) Space out next. Assuming I am correct with my thought that there are no spies left, there's nothing that can happen to team hero at night, and my superpower isn't needed anyway. So please do what you must, but please let us all vote for the same person to not create unnecessary ties. Edit: Also, if there are any, you are welcome to come forward with your suspicions, I will try my best to explain myself.
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Post by ArcadiaGrey on Dec 20, 2020 15:24:49 GMT
Reggie could be Khalisa or Chloe. If she's K then she's done a poor job of convincing is to knock anyone out. They leaves Chloe.
How is this relevant? I've reread the narrative again, and a protector is mentioned once. If we had Chloe and Kal'reegar, wouldn't protective actions be mentioned more?
So I'm going with my gut, which I ignored before, and voting for OWL
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Post by Chenowl Blanc on Dec 20, 2020 16:56:44 GMT
Reggie could be Khalisa or Chloe. If she's K then she's done a poor job of convincing is to knock anyone out. They leaves Chloe. How is this relevant? I've reread the narrative again, and a protector is mentioned once. If we had Chloe and Kal'reegar, wouldn't protective actions be mentioned more? So I'm going with my gut, which I ignored before, and voting for OWLYour gut feeling sucks xD Also, very hard to defend against a gut feeling but I'll try. So can you clarify exactly what exactly your suspicion is: the evil version of the character I claimed to be or Morinth? If it's the first option, I still think the narrative of the most recent night doesn't really fit. Or why do you think that nobody died tonight? Until now, pela mentioned it when it was relevant, why wouldn't she tonight? If it's the second option, you assume that I have been lying all this time, which would have been quite the bold thing to do. Yes, I was very vage but I later got my vocal about who I was, and I am glad I did it this late, otherwise I could not have been very useful during the night. I thought that was pretty clear, especially in a round where there are 3 basically confirmed good players and loads of options in place. Anything else that made me particularly suspicious? *insert pause here as I re-read some character descriptions* Can someone explain why we assume that reg could be Khalisah? That would be a neutral evil role but we know through gerva that both reg and Arcadia are good. Given her answers were truthful, reg could be Gianna Parasini or Dr. Michel or am I mistaken somehow? If she's Dr. Michel, we'd have 3 good protective roles in game (including Bailey) so that does sound a bit much.
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Post by gervaise21 on Dec 20, 2020 16:59:36 GMT
Since Morinth is not officially team evil, if, hypothetically speaking, Charr fell in love with her (and didn die instantly to her power,lol) would he be team evil anyway, or still team good? Edit: And same goes with Conrad, really. What if he admired Morinth? Morinth is evil, just not in communication with the spies directly. She only wins if they do but Pela has confirmed that she can win the game for them on her own. So I would have thought that would make Charr evil too since he always takes the alignment of the person he is in love with. If Conrad admired Morinth and she was eliminated, then he would assume her role and powers, so he would also be evil.
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Post by gervaise21 on Dec 20, 2020 17:08:49 GMT
Given her answers were truthful, reg could be Gianna Parasini or Dr. Michel or am I mistaken somehow? No, you are quite correct. In terms of my role, Kirrahe has to state the identity of the person he wishes to get in touch with. If he is correct then a channel is opened and he is either put in touch with a hero or a spy. If the latter then he is now evil and if eliminated it would show as much. The reason I was able to state confidence in two players was that one of them was Charr. Since Charr takes his alignment from his LI, it follows that if they are good so is he and vice versa.
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Post by ArcadiaGrey on Dec 20, 2020 17:15:20 GMT
Reggie could be Khalisa or Chloe. If she's K then she's done a poor job of convincing is to knock anyone out. They leaves Chloe. How is this relevant? I've reread the narrative again, and a protector is mentioned once. If we had Chloe and Kal'reegar, wouldn't protective actions be mentioned more? So I'm going with my gut, which I ignored before, and voting for OWLYour gut feeling sucks xD It was bang on with Dragon but I ignored it I think you're Morinth. I'm suspicious of how hard you've tried to convince us you're being helpful and good. Nobody died because there are no spies left, and Morinth can't kill anyone. You were vocal later on, when I think you worked out which character wasn't being played and took ownership of it. If Seven is good Aria, she has acted in such a way that mimics another role, and therefore we wouldn't be aware of what she did thru the narrative. If you are good Kal, then why has there been so little protection mentioned in the narrative? I know you. You're a sneaky, wily, tricky, slippery, too clever for your own good little Christmas gremlin and I don't trust you an inch.
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Post by gervaise21 on Dec 20, 2020 17:24:06 GMT
regack; How about a little clue about which role you are?
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Post by Chenowl Blanc on Dec 20, 2020 17:48:41 GMT
It was bang on with Dragon but I ignored it You're just lucky you're proven good, otherwise your mysterious, erratic gut feeling explanations would be so damn sus. (And it still stucks!) I think you're Morinth. I'm suspicious of how hard you've tried to convince us you're being helpful and good. Nobody died because there are no spies left, and Morinth can't kill anyone. You were vocal later on, when I think you worked out which character wasn't being played and took ownership of it. If Seven is good Aria, she has acted in such a way that mimics another role, and therefore we wouldn't be aware of what she did thru the narrative. If you are good Kal, then why has there been so little protection mentioned in the narrative? Well, from that perspective, it makes sense, I have to agree. Not the part with the narrative, though. Why would pela mention what kind of protection took place if it is not relevant for what happened? It would be too much of a clue for the spies imho - because until one person successfully protected someone, the spies might not even have known that another protective role (or two) except for Bailey was in play. So I'm quite happy it went the way it did with the narrative. I know you. You're a sneaky, wily, tricky, slippery, too clever for your own good little Christmas gremlin and I don't trust you an inch. All true except for the part where you say you know me. I'm looking forward to your apology. That being said, I don't particularly mind if everybody votes for me this round. Like I mentioned, I can't do anything super special anyway, and there are 3 of you being able to rely on the word of each other (well, except for dadi's word as he's still blackmailed but you get my drift). The only thing it will do is prolong the game, really, which is a luxury problem at this point. I will vote for seven for reasons already stated.
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Post by ArcadiaGrey on Dec 20, 2020 18:48:51 GMT
I think you're Morinth. I'm suspicious of how hard you've tried to convince us you're being helpful and good. Nobody died because there are no spies left, and Morinth can't kill anyone. You were vocal later on, when I think you worked out which character wasn't being played and took ownership of it. If Seven is good Aria, she has acted in such a way that mimics another role, and therefore we wouldn't be aware of what she did thru the narrative. If you are good Kal, then why has there been so little protection mentioned in the narrative? Well, from that perspective, it makes sense, I have to agree. Not the part with the narrative, though. Why would pela mention what kind of protection took place if it is not relevant for what happened? It would be too much of a clue for the spies imho - because until one person successfully protected someone, the spies might not even have known that another protective role (or two) except for Bailey was in play. So I'm quite happy it went the way it did with the narrative. That's a good point NEVER!
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