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Post by dragontartare on Mar 15, 2018 0:11:08 GMT
WOW, things happened. Sorry about not being active, been really busy IRL. I got an email alert saying Gervaise had sent me a message, but I didn't actually read it, now I feel stupid. At this point I'm just gonna put it this way: I'm HIGHLY suspicous of Dragon. Very much so. Uh, why?? I only voted for you because you had the next highest number of votes after reed, and I don’t think it’s fair for the newbie to get voted off on the first voting cycle. If you’re trying to hint at your role here, I’m not getting it. Remember that I have a vote change left. Other than that, I’ve already hinted at my own role. Are you guys seriously choosing to lose potentially two heroes at once? I have a fairly low chance of randomly picking one of the spies, after all.
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Post by sgtreed24 on Mar 15, 2018 1:07:08 GMT
Scratch that. Got her confused with Pela. lol
Well, IF Moonae is telling the truth... looks grim for Dragon. But who is to say that Moonae isn't trying to fool you all into taking out Dragon to take out (potentially) two heroes at once? (If Dragon is indeed Wrex as she claims)
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Post by Space Cowboy on Mar 15, 2018 1:17:30 GMT
Scratch that. Got her confused with Pela. lol Well, IF Moonae is telling the truth... looks grim for Dragon. But who is to say that Moonae isn't trying to fool you all into taking out Dragon to take out (potentially) two heroes at once? (If Dragon is indeed Wrex as she claims) That could be the case too, I don't have any vote changes left though so we'll have to see. if she's evil wrex she may take out Moonae, or if she isnt she will probably take out Moonae anyway. And if she doesnt, and Moonae isnt a cerberus agent, then the remaining spy would take out Moonae at night. Either way Moonae has nothing to gain by fooling us. Garrus might have a better idea for a target after all this too.
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Post by Space Cowboy on Mar 15, 2018 1:18:40 GMT
WOW, things happened. Sorry about not being active, been really busy IRL. I got an email alert saying Gervaise had sent me a message, but I didn't actually read it, now I feel stupid. At this point I'm just gonna put it this way: I'm HIGHLY suspicous of Dragon. Very much so. Uh, why?? I only voted for you because you had the next highest number of votes after reed, and I don’t think it’s fair for the newbie to get voted off on the first voting cycle. If you’re trying to hint at your role here, I’m not getting it. Remember that I have a vote change left. Other than that, I’ve already hinted at my own role. Are you guys seriously choosing to lose potentially two heroes at once? I have a fairly low chance of randomly picking one of the spies, after all. Sorry Dragon, I hope I didn't jump too soon.
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Post by sgtreed24 on Mar 15, 2018 1:28:27 GMT
Scratch that. Got her confused with Pela. lol Well, IF Moonae is telling the truth... looks grim for Dragon. But who is to say that Moonae isn't trying to fool you all into taking out Dragon to take out (potentially) two heroes at once? (If Dragon is indeed Wrex as she claims) That could be the case too, I don't have any vote changes left though so we'll have to see. if she's evil wrex she may take out Moonae, or if she isnt she will probably take out Moonae anyway. And if she doesnt, and Moonae isnt a cerberus agent, then the remaining spy would take out Moonae at night. Either way Moonae has nothing to gain by fooling us. Garrus might have a better idea for a target after all this too. I need to talk this out myself because... that's some crazy shit. (are we allowed to curse? is anyone offended? I'll avoid it if so.) Alright, so... - IF Dragon is evil, then she knows Moonae isn't. So, she now knows that Moonae is potentially a certain hero. Meaning, she'd take out that important hero with her. - IF Dragon isn't evil, then she could guesstimate that Moonae IS evil and attempting to fool us. Thus she could take her down to help us/get revenge. But it could still just be Moonae politic-ing for her own life and we lose 2 heroes at once and then other via the real spy. - IF Dragon isn't evil and decides to not take out Moonae, then the actual spy could take out Moonae anyway. Is that right? Well damn. lol Uh, I'm gonna hang on to my last vote switch as I still have 2 votes. But this is topsy turvy!
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Post by pelassarias on Mar 15, 2018 1:38:29 GMT
If Moonae is who I think they are, and Dragon is truly Evil Wrex, wouldn't it be better to let the night killing roles take care of dragon? If we vote off dragon now and she's Evil, she WILL take out Moonae.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2018 1:39:56 GMT
Scratch that. Got her confused with Pela. lol Well, IF Moonae is telling the truth... looks grim for Dragon. But who is to say that Moonae isn't trying to fool you all into taking out Dragon to take out (potentially) two heroes at once? (If Dragon is indeed Wrex as she claims) I smell Dragon and Reed conspiracy here. And you've changed your vote to put me on the chopping block when I voted against Dragon. fishy fishy
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Post by Space Cowboy on Mar 15, 2018 1:49:30 GMT
That could be the case too, I don't have any vote changes left though so we'll have to see. if she's evil wrex she may take out Moonae, or if she isnt she will probably take out Moonae anyway. And if she doesnt, and Moonae isnt a cerberus agent, then the remaining spy would take out Moonae at night. Either way Moonae has nothing to gain by fooling us. Garrus might have a better idea for a target after all this too. I need to talk this out myself because... that's some crazy shit. (are we allowed to curse? is anyone offended? I'll avoid it if so.) Alright, so... - IF Dragon is evil, then she knows Moonae isn't. So, she now knows that Moonae is potentially a certain hero. Meaning, she'd take out that important hero with her. - IF Dragon isn't evil, then she could guesstimate that Moonae IS evil and attempting to fool us. Thus she could take her down to help us/get revenge. But it could still just be Moonae politic-ing for her own life and we lose 2 heroes at once and then other via the real spy. - IF Dragon isn't evil and decides to not take out Moonae, then the actual spy could take out Moonae anyway. Is that right? Well damn. lol Uh, I'm gonna hang on to my last vote switch as I still have 2 votes. But this is topsy turvy! It's very unlikely that Moonae is a hero and just trying to save her own skin by targeting Dragon of all people. For all the reasons you repeated above. As soon as a investigative role reveals themselves they know they are going to be out the next round, guaranteed. The spies aren't going to give them a second shot. Pretending to be Liara would simply get her eliminated. There is no gain in doing so. Now, I jumped before remembering Dragons role. Had I waited it may have occurred to me to let garrus take her out at night. As it is, she may choose to take out Moonae. She could take out someone else and eliminate Moonae at night, but she would be taking the chance that another role blocks the spies from doing so, leaving Liara alive to investigate two more nights. That said, Wrex can take out anyone he likes, logic be damned (I dont think anyone minds occasional swearing). Serza was wrex a few games go, and decided to take me out because he thought I was Tali and had 'betrayed' wrex. Turns out I was a spy, but he thought he was taking out a fellow hero for roleplay reasons. And you thought this was all just random guesswork.
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Post by Space Cowboy on Mar 15, 2018 1:51:52 GMT
If Moonae is who I think they are, and Dragon is truly Evil Wrex, wouldn't it be better to let the night killing roles take care of dragon? If we vote off dragon now and she's Evil, she WILL take out Moonae. Yes, as I was saying to Reed, I jumped too fast, before I remembered Dragon's role. I can't change votes again however.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2018 1:55:51 GMT
If Moonae is who I think they are, and Dragon is truly Evil Wrex, wouldn't it be better to let the night killing roles take care of dragon? If we vote off dragon now and she's Evil, she WILL take out Moonae. What makes you sure Garrus isn't evil? I suppose Jack could take care of it, but if Wrex is not evil Jack dies.
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Post by dragontartare on Mar 15, 2018 2:05:39 GMT
Uh, why?? I only voted for you because you had the next highest number of votes after reed, and I don’t think it’s fair for the newbie to get voted off on the first voting cycle. If you’re trying to hint at your role here, I’m not getting it. Remember that I have a vote change left. Other than that, I’ve already hinted at my own role. Are you guys seriously choosing to lose potentially two heroes at once? I have a fairly low chance of randomly picking one of the spies, after all. Sorry Dragon, I hope I didn't jump too soon. I'm more interested in knowing why Moon is very suspicious of me. If it's only because I voted for her, then I explained why. Nothing personal, just the best option at the time for keeping both myself and the poor newbie off the chopping block. That could be the case too, I don't have any vote changes left though so we'll have to see. if she's evil wrex she may take out Moonae, or if she isnt she will probably take out Moonae anyway. And if she doesnt, and Moonae isnt a cerberus agent, then the remaining spy would take out Moonae at night. Either way Moonae has nothing to gain by fooling us. Garrus might have a better idea for a target after all this too. I need to talk this out myself because... that's some crazy shit. (are we allowed to curse? is anyone offended? I'll avoid it if so.) Alright, so... - IF Dragon is evil, then she knows Moonae isn't. So, she now knows that Moonae is potentially a certain hero. Meaning, she'd take out that important hero with her. - IF Dragon isn't evil, then she could guesstimate that Moonae IS evil and attempting to fool us. Thus she could take her down to help us/get revenge. But it could still just be Moonae politic-ing for her own life and we lose 2 heroes at once and then other via the real spy. - IF Dragon isn't evil and decides to not take out Moonae, then the actual spy could take out Moonae anyway. Is that right? Well damn. lol Uh, I'm gonna hang on to my last vote switch as I still have 2 votes. But this is topsy turvy! Curse all you like And yeah, I think this is the first time that an initial day round has been this crazy.
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Post by Space Cowboy on Mar 15, 2018 2:06:44 GMT
If Moonae is who I think they are, and Dragon is truly Evil Wrex, wouldn't it be better to let the night killing roles take care of dragon? If we vote off dragon now and she's Evil, she WILL take out Moonae. What makes you sure Garrus isn't evil? I suppose Jack could take care of it, but if Wrex is not evil Jack dies. Jacks sacrifice will be honoured in the coming empire. But seriously, if Evil Garrus took out Jack at night, the remaining heroes would simply vote out Garrus and game over.
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Post by pelassarias on Mar 15, 2018 2:10:44 GMT
What makes you sure Garrus isn't evil? I suppose Jack could take care of it, but if Wrex is not evil Jack dies. Jacks sacrifice will be honoured in the coming empire. But seriously, if Evil Garrus took out Jack at night, the remaining heroes would simply vote out Garrus and game over. Plus something tells me that Moonae isn't screwing with us here, but if she is and Jack dies in the process, we'll vote her off the next round. ETA: This is all if dragon doesn't get voted off right now of course.
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Post by Space Cowboy on Mar 15, 2018 2:14:08 GMT
I'm more interested in knowing why Moon is very suspicious of me. If it's only because I voted for her, then I explained why. Nothing personal, just the best option at the time for keeping both myself and the poor newbie off the chopping block. Well, if you are, in fact, innocent, and Moon is too, then she is very foolish The obvious answer is she's Liara and investigated you. The obvious answer isn't always the correct one of course. *sigh* She has been busy and has limited time to discuss stuff here, or presumably she would be here to defend herself. That said, it was odd timing to come on and claim her role long after she placed a vote on you. Maybe she was trying to do do what Titus tried when I was gm and find another spy before going down
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Post by sgtreed24 on Mar 15, 2018 2:16:02 GMT
Scratch that. Got her confused with Pela. lol Well, IF Moonae is telling the truth... looks grim for Dragon. But who is to say that Moonae isn't trying to fool you all into taking out Dragon to take out (potentially) two heroes at once? (If Dragon is indeed Wrex as she claims) I smell Dragon and Reed conspiracy here. And you've changed your vote to put me on the chopping block when I voted against Dragon. fishy fishy I seem to remember a certain someone, cough adonniel cough, being willing to work with Dragon with they were on the chopping block. How is that any different than me doing the same? Is it really fishy, or just called saving your own ass?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2018 2:18:29 GMT
Space I meant if we spare Dragon on the basis of us thinking Evil Wrex so Dragon doesn't grab Moon now and try to use Jack or Garrus. I'm trying to consider how that might work out.
It would be kinda iffy if Moon scored the pesky reporter role AGAIN, though random role generator has a quirky sense of humour. Dragon will probably take Moon either way.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2018 2:20:46 GMT
I seem to remember a certain someone, cough adonniel cough, being willing to work with Dragon with they were on the chopping block. How is that any different than me doing the same? It is different, presumably oh wicked one, because I precisely was on the chopping block, while you weren't and if you two are spies this means you were trying to save your evil partner. See the ickle difference, me trying to save me without a clue who's who, and you trying to save Dragon who's under lots of suspicion atm.
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Post by sgtreed24 on Mar 15, 2018 2:29:13 GMT
I seem to remember a certain someone, cough adonniel cough, being willing to work with Dragon with they were on the chopping block. How is that any different than me doing the same? It is different, presumably oh wicked one, because I precisely was on the chopping block, while you weren't and if you two are spies this means you were trying to save your evil partner. See the ickle difference, me trying to save me without a clue who's who, and you trying to save Dragon who's under lots of suspicion atm. If you can switch to save Cowboy because you like dogs, I can switch to save Dragon because I like dragons. There weren't even any hints given at that point iirc. There's hardly a difference. However, if you are so sure that I am evil, feel free to investigate me tonight. You will fail, as I am innocent. You willing to risk that? You'd then be potentially losing both Liara and Jack. That's a mighty heavy blow to the heroes. I have a vote switch and a pretty decent hero power remaining. I can prove which side I'm on. That would require me to be a douchebag and turn on the person who saved me.
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Post by Space Cowboy on Mar 15, 2018 2:29:13 GMT
Space I meant if we spare Dragon on the basis of us thinking Evil Wrex so Dragon doesn't grab Moon now and try to use Jack or Garrus. I'm trying to consider how that might work out. It would be kinda iffy if Moon scored the pesky reporter role AGAIN, though random role generator has a quirky sense of humour. Dragon will probably take Moon either way. That would be funny if Moon was the reporter again. Poor Moon. lol. Unfortunately Moon can't be around to clarify her role. Point taken. Dragon could decide to take me or Pela randomly, as well. Moon is only the most likely.
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Post by Space Cowboy on Mar 15, 2018 2:30:55 GMT
I can switch to save Dragon because I like dragons Dragontartare isn't a dragon though, she eats dragons. Raw.
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Post by sgtreed24 on Mar 15, 2018 2:36:20 GMT
I can switch to save Dragon because I like dragons Dragontartare isn't a dragon though, she eats dragons. Raw. *googles tartare* Lol, well I don't speak French. This changes everything. I'm under suspicion and she's not even a Dragon!!?
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Post by dragontartare on Mar 15, 2018 2:38:51 GMT
I can switch to save Dragon because I like dragons Dragontartare isn't a dragon though, she eats dragons. Raw. Correction: I am a raw dragon Since you all are so sure I've got to go, you had best start giving me ideas for who to take with me. For obvious reasons, I would rather not take Liara, Garrus, or Jack with me. But for now, that leaves the option of picking randomly from the other options.
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Post by pelassarias on Mar 15, 2018 2:40:42 GMT
It's possible that a certain protective role can save Moonae during the night. I say we that chance rather than vote dragon right now with the chance of Moonae dying being 100%. Either way, Wrex is going down. So if Moonae does go down with em, the Heroes will still prevail, as we usually do.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2018 2:41:52 GMT
However, if you are so sure that I am evil, feel free to investigate me tonight. You will fail, as I am innocent. You willing to risk that? Whether I visit you will depend on whether Dragon is innocent or not. Obviously, if Dragon is innocent then at the very least you aren't evil together. Me visiting you even if innocent is pretty useful as if I kick the bucket the heroes will know you didn't do it. Unless the villains decide to kill you too. That would be a show if Dragon is innocent, Moon is the reporter again and Garrus with Jack kill each other. Easiest villain win ever.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2018 2:44:50 GMT
For obvious reasons, I would rather not take Liara, Garrus, or Jack with me. Well if you're innocent than Moon obviously isn't Liara.
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