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Post by masterwarderz on Dec 26, 2017 17:41:33 GMT
Yeah I assume an advanced alien civilization will socially and militarily look more like Ancient China and the Roman Empire [with less flaws and technologically more advanced than modern us] rather than being like California and San Francisco! I somehow doubt a civilization with social justice could move past the bounds of their own solar system tbh Because they are just a bunch of whining lazy kids, they can't build, they can't achieve, they only want to whine and leech
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Post by Lavochkin on Dec 26, 2017 18:47:19 GMT
I want there to be no alien life out there so that the entire universe can be claimed by humanity. Pfff greed, the lowest of all emotions. If there are other universes with no alien life, then those are ours to claim too.
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Dec 26, 2017 21:51:09 GMT
An alien race capable of space travel doesn't need slaves. Sadly, I can refute that with something I refer to as Sifr's Law; "Never assume being from an 'advanced civilisation' doesn't make someone more than capable of being a colossal dick"
Even when not dealing with true invasions, fiction plays with the concept of jerkass aliens quite a bit; Stargate has the Goa'uld mindset be "Why use my advanced tech when I can have slaves mine things for me, all the while stroking my ego by having them worship me as a God?".
Cowboys and Aliens has Earth being raided by alien pirates with the Manifest Destiny mindset of "Out the way, primitives, I'm here to knick your stuff".
Star Trek has the Klingons routinely depicted/accused of enslaving the populations of worlds they conquered in TOS, the Vorta and Jem'Hadar were engineered to be slave races with total loyalty to the Founders and the Romulans subjugated the Remans to work in the diliithium mines on their sister planet. The Federation's Prime Directive was even created with the intention of limiting contact with any Pre-War cultures to prevent potential exploitation or unduly influencing their cultural development.
Rick and Morty has one episode reveal that Rick has effectively enslaved an entire pocket universe solely for the purposes of having them power his spaceship. And then proceed to learn the people in the pocket universe race did the same thing, and so on.
The Ancient Time Lords on Doctor Who would routinely abduct people from throughout history to make them fight in gladiatorial combat (in an area of Gallifrey comfortingly named the "Death Zone"), for seemingly no other reason than because they could.
Same with the Predators in their franchise, who routinely descend on worlds or abduct people, because hunting lesser species for sport is their jam. I didn't say that, the self-proclaimed expert did. I agree with you. I mean, look at humans. Primitives.
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Post by ruggly on Dec 29, 2017 21:21:03 GMT
If things that I cannot understand made me any less alone I would be a very happy man. I do not understand why I can never find the edge on duct tape rolls. I am still alone. Here, I may have found someone for you www.instagram.com/gabigarciaoficial/
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Post by Giant Ambush Beetle on Dec 29, 2017 22:02:22 GMT
If things that I cannot understand made me any less alone I would be a very happy man. I do not understand why I can never find the edge on duct tape rolls. I am still alone. Here, I may have found someone for you www.instagram.com/gabigarciaoficial/If that was not some form of sarcasm which I fail to understand, which it most likely was - what led you to believe that I'd like this person?
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Post by ruggly on Dec 29, 2017 22:26:50 GMT
If that was not some form of sarcasm which I fail to understand, which it most likely was - what led you to believe that I'd like this person? The sarcasm was indeed lost for you.
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Post by Giant Ambush Beetle on Dec 29, 2017 22:27:50 GMT
If that was not some form of sarcasm which I fail to understand, which it most likely was - what led you to believe that I'd like this person? The sarcasm was indeed lost for you. Ok.
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Post by ruggly on Dec 29, 2017 22:30:31 GMT
The sarcasm was indeed lost for you. Ok. You're no fun.
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Post by Arijon van Goyen on Dec 29, 2017 22:44:13 GMT
Another day has gone, I'm still all alone How could this be? You're not here with me You never said good-bye, someone tell me why Did you have to go, and leave my world so cold? Everyday I sit and ask myself How did love slip away? Something whispers in my ear and says That you are not alone I am here with you Though you're far away I am here to stay You are not alone I am here with you Though we're far apart You're always in my heart You are not alone
All alone, why, oh... Just the other night, I thought I heard you cry Asking me to come, and hold you in my arms I can hear your prayers, your burdens I will bear But first I need your hand, then forever can begin Everyday I sit and ask myself How did love slip away? Something whispers in my ear and says That you are not alone I am here with you Though you're far away I am here to stay You are not alone I am here with you Though we're far apart You're always in my heart
You are not alone Oh... whisper three words and I'll come runnin' Fly... and girl you know that I'll be there I'll be there That you are not alone I am here with you Though you're far away I am here to stay You are not alone I am here with you Though we're far apart You're always in my heart You are not alone That you are not alone (That you are not alone) I am here with you (I am here with you) Though you're far away (Though you're far away) I am here to stay (I am here to stay) You are not alone I am here with you Though we're far apart You're always in my heart You are not alone...
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Post by ruggly on Dec 29, 2017 22:49:13 GMT
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Dec 30, 2017 17:51:10 GMT
We are similar, not the same, and the evidence for evolution from monkey to man is non-existent. Congratulations, you caught me in imagining an explanation that works to explain the gap. We are in a very grey area here, get over yourself. There have been many skeletons of links between chimp and man found, for starters Google the skeleton of Lucy. There is tons of hard scientific evidence out there that totally and utterly support the theory of evolution and that we are cousins of the chimp. It took us hundreds of thousands of years of evolution to become what we are now, and there is tons of proof for that. There is absolutely zero scientific evidence that there have been Aliens involved, believing in Aliens having anything to do with mankind is as completely unfounded as religion, and most of the time it does not even make any logical sense. In fact, the theory about Aliens having created mankind IS a religion because people are quite fanatic about it despite having no proof whatsoever, they just believe, like other people believe in Hobgoblins, Witchcraft and Leprechauns. We have a pretty clear situation here, get over yourself. It is not a religion, it is simply the work of logic. Logically, xenogenesis is as likely, if not more likely, than monkey man babies. Your example of Lucy, that you were so proud of, is the weakest of sauce. Lucy was a monkey, end of story. Yes, we are similar to monkeys. We are also similar to Abyssinian cats (90% shared genome) and domesticated cattle (80%). Moo.
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Post by Giant Ambush Beetle on Dec 30, 2017 19:00:29 GMT
It is not a religion, it is simply the work of logic. Logically, xenogenesis is as likely, if not more likely, than monkey man babies. Your example of Lucy, that you were so proud of, is the weakest of sauce. Lucy was a monkey, end of story. Yes, we are similar to monkeys. We are also similar to Abyssinian cats (90% shared genome) and domesticated cattle (80%). Moo. Prove it. I have an army of scientists and physical evidence backing up the theory of man evolving from apes, its the general consensus of the most intelligent and knowledgeable people in the world, whose very job it is to research evolution. You have absolutely nothing, you are basing your theory on your own gut feelings, like those who think that the earth is flat. But thats not how reality works.
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Post by lyq3r on Jan 2, 2018 14:01:31 GMT
Random text.
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Post by Ieldra on Jan 2, 2018 14:43:16 GMT
The galaxy is too big for us to alone in it. Heck even Proxima Centauri has a planet in its habitable zone, not to mention Europa and Enceladus. That said, in our current understanding the distances between stars are so vast it is impossible to travel between them in a reasonable time-frame. I do believe that there is another intelligent life form in our close neighborhood of stars (up to 30 light years away), but in our modern history at least we didn't meet them, because it will take too many people to hide an alien conspiracy, especially considering that US isn't the only country in the world. While it will be fun to speculate that US achieves technological superiority by reverse engineering alien technology stored in area 51, I very doubt that this is the case. As for the program mentioned in the video, the more interesting implications would be to hear if they found something rather if they existed at all. Within 30 light years? That's *extremely* optimistic. Consider: the star system density in our region of space is approximately 0.003 stars per cubic light year, which means that there are approximately 300-350 stars within a distance of 30 light years, at least one of which would carry intelligent life. Not only would this make intelligent life so commonplace that it would be even more of a mystery we haven't had contact yet than it already is, it would also mean, extrapolated to the galaxy, that there are several hundred million civilizations in our galaxy. I consider either extremely unlikely.
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Post by Ieldra on Jan 2, 2018 14:47:12 GMT
Any race advanced enough to make interstellar travel has technology available that is magnitudes more capable than any organic slave, making humans as work force extremely impractical. Even we are using automated machines that are vastly more capable than any human, we have entire automated facilities assembling dozens of cars per hour, no humans needed. And remember they have the technology to travel through the universe, they are hundreds if not thousands of years more advanced than us. Our planet does not have special resources, the stuff on earth is abundant in our solar system, let alone the universe. To know what our forefathers already knew about the universe you just need to observe carefully and make logical conclusions. None of that knowledge req uires any other source than the human mind. No magic, no aliens, no gods, no super technology. Look what awesome stuff we discover and create every day, and we need no aliens for any of that.
They don't need to abduct any humans, all they need is intact human DNA, all the necessary data is in it. Way more convenient - and save.
These reasons, and a few more, is why the alien theories are utter BS. They would only make sense if the Aliens were idiots, which are, for some reason able to do interstellar travel which is hugely complicated and demands a lot of super advanced technology yet at the same time, when dealing with earth, they are suddenly unable to perform basic logical thinking that even we lowly humans already possess. Substitute slaves for experiment, and the theory is more palatable. In my opinion, we are the retarded children of an alien race. Evolution can and does account very well for human traits, both the pleasant and the unpleasant ones. Before I believe in any alien origin hypothesis, there would need to be dramatically more evidence. Any evidence at all would be a good start.
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Post by Ieldra on Jan 2, 2018 14:58:41 GMT
Logically, xenogenesis is as likely, if not more likely, than monkey man babies. You don't understand evolution if you believe that. The only kind of xenogenesis hypothesis that's not complete bogus based on no evidence at all at this point is the idea that all life on Earth descends from interstellar bacteria. Deal with it. There are no intelligent forefathers to the human species, neither aliens nor gods had anything to do with the appearance of the human species on Earth. We rose out of the primordial soup by a billion tiny patches made to one of the first single-celled organisms to swim in the seas of ancient Earth.
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Jan 2, 2018 19:28:36 GMT
Logically, xenogenesis is as likely, if not more likely, than monkey man babies. You don't understand evolution if you believe that. The only kind of xenogenesis hypothesis that's not complete bogus based on no evidence at all at this point is the idea that all life on Earth descends from interstellar bacteria. Deal with it. There are no intelligent forefathers to the human species, neither aliens nor gods had anything to do with the appearance of the human species on Earth. We rose out of the primordial soup by a billion tiny patches made to one of the first single-celled organisms to swim in the seas of ancient Earth. No. You are handwaving the oldest philosophical question in existence, with as little evidence as all those materialists before you. If you really think it's all wrapped up, good for you - you're wrong. As an agnostic that really leans towards Atheism, you are putting me in a weird place here, but that comes with the territory.
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Jan 2, 2018 19:31:15 GMT
It is not a religion, it is simply the work of logic. Logically, xenogenesis is as likely, if not more likely, than monkey man babies. Your example of Lucy, that you were so proud of, is the weakest of sauce. Lucy was a monkey, end of story. Yes, we are similar to monkeys. We are also similar to Abyssinian cats (90% shared genome) and domesticated cattle (80%). Moo. Prove it. I have an army of scientists and physical evidence backing up the theory of man evolving from apes, its the general consensus of the most intelligent and knowledgeable people in the world, whose very job it is to research evolution. You have absolutely nothing, you are basing your theory on your own gut feelings, like those who think that the earth is flat. But thats not how reality works. No, I am not going off of intuition, and I am leaning less on "intuition" than you are. I put intuition in quotes, because intuition requires some sort of knowledge to spring from - you have none. Your "army" is as divided on this subject as you and I are. God damn... Logic needs to be taught remedially.
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Post by Giant Ambush Beetle on Jan 2, 2018 20:01:55 GMT
Prove it. I have an army of scientists and physical evidence backing up the theory of man evolving from apes, its the general consensus of the most intelligent and knowledgeable people in the world, whose very job it is to research evolution. You have absolutely nothing, you are basing your theory on your own gut feelings, like those who think that the earth is flat. But thats not how reality works. No, I am not going off of intuition, and I am leaning less on "intuition" than you are. I put intuition in quotes, because intuition requires some sort of knowledge to spring from - you have none. Your "army" is as divided on this subject as you and I are. God damn... Logic needs to be taught remedially. Then show me your evidence. Its only logical to show it when you argue something exists that 99,9% of the dedicated and respectable scientific world say does not, right? Since you are a logical person, quit bullshitting already and show the evidence. Walk the talk. My evidence is the theory of evolution, pretty much every book on evolution, the general consensus of the entire scientific world, the general consensus of archaeologists discovering the missing links between ape and man. And, because I am such a nice guy, here is some Richard Dawkins, one of the most respected evolution scientists: Also, what I find really funny about people saying that aliens were involved in our making, the complete lack of evidence aside, is that evolution made some crazy jumps and created some really crazy animals, yet they totally accept that this was evolution. But once its about the human race some godly intervention must have taken place, despite the fact that the differences between us and our nearest ancestors and the differences between other species and their nearest ancestors are basically the same. In the end its simply people with large egos that cannot accept the fact that we are evolved animals. They want to be created by an intelligent race because that makes us somehow more awesome and elevates us from the rest of the creepy-crawlies on this planet. Well, every serious evidence available points to the fact that we have evolved from the ape with no magical intervention from any magical beings, like all the other species here on earth.
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Post by Ieldra on Jan 2, 2018 20:27:45 GMT
You don't understand evolution if you believe that. The only kind of xenogenesis hypothesis that's not complete bogus based on no evidence at all at this point is the idea that all life on Earth descends from interstellar bacteria. Deal with it. There are no intelligent forefathers to the human species, neither aliens nor gods had anything to do with the appearance of the human species on Earth. We rose out of the primordial soup by a billion tiny patches made to one of the first single-celled organisms to swim in the seas of ancient Earth. No. You are handwaving the oldest philosophical question in existence, with as little evidence as all those materialists before you. If you really think it's all wrapped up, good for you - you're wrong. As an agnostic that really leans towards Atheism, you are putting me in a weird place here, but that comes with the territory. All knowledge is preliminary, and it's theoretically possible I'm proven wrong, but the evidence really points only one way at this time, and it's not yours. If you disagree, then make an actual point instead of accusing others of ignorance while presenting no plausible argument of your own. As for philosophical idealism, that's a fundamental difference to the way I look at things, yes, and I can't prove, in the strict sense, that it's wrong. However, it provides no evidence at all, only possibilities. Again, if you think it's possible to make your point by deriving it from first principles, I challenge you to do so.
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Jan 2, 2018 22:57:05 GMT
No. You are handwaving the oldest philosophical question in existence, with as little evidence as all those materialists before you. If you really think it's all wrapped up, good for you - you're wrong. As an agnostic that really leans towards Atheism, you are putting me in a weird place here, but that comes with the territory. All knowledge is preliminary, and it's theoretically possible I'm proven wrong, but the evidence really points only one way at this time, and it's not yours. If you disagree, then make an actual point instead of accusing others of ignorance while presenting no plausible argument of your own. As for philosophical idealism, that's a fundamental difference to the way I look at things, yes, and I can't prove, in the strict sense, that it's wrong. However, it provides no evidence at all, only possibilities. Again, if you think it's possible to make your point by deriving it from first principles, I challenge you to do so. All knowledge is preliminary. Almost all science is theory, even "laws". Math is the closest thing to a firmament, and we still can't use math to explain all the operations of the mind. Quantum physics leaves room for "things"... Evidence that you claim to exist flatly does not. I don't know shit, thought you would have understood that by now. The thing is, I am intimately aware of my ignorance about a great many things and am ok with that. I don't have to prove shit. You are saying you know things, I am telling you you cannot possibly "know" the things you claim to know. This is called Socratic Ignorance, if you care for the root of my argument. We both know nothing. We can argue about our preferences of design, how we wish it would be, how we think it is, but we don't know shit. Satisfied? Probably not, but I have adequately answered your challenge.
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Jan 2, 2018 23:00:01 GMT
Giant Ambush Beetle - oh gosh, you're right... I have never heard of the Theory of Evolution, and I have certainly never heard of Dawkins although I have quoted him in papers for University as an undergrad... Man, you got me.
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