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Post by Gwyvian on Mar 8, 2018 19:28:43 GMT
Heeeeeey guys!! It's been too long! I have a question for you all, how invested are you guys in Solas fics nowadays? Not looking to read, just feeling out a potential audience.
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Post by procutemeister on Mar 8, 2018 19:33:52 GMT
I have a weakness for modern with magic university AUs. Give me those academic discussions by Solas and Dorian about their respective disciplines and elvhen history any day.
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Post by Gwyvian on Mar 8, 2018 19:36:25 GMT
I have a weakness for modern with magic university AUs. Give me those academic discussions by Solas and Dorian about their respective disciplines and elvhen history any day. That sounds fun! Not quite what I had in mind, but I am invested in doing a lot of Solas-Dorian talks because I seriously could listen to them endlessly, hahaha.
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Post by procutemeister on Mar 8, 2018 19:43:44 GMT
Haha, it's a little niche but I just read them in my downtime. No pressure. But yes, Solas-Dorian banter is so fantastically witty, snarky, and nerdy.
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Post by Gwyvian on Mar 8, 2018 19:56:46 GMT
Haha, it's a little niche but I just read them in my downtime. No pressure. But yes, Solas-Dorian banter is so fantastically witty, snarky, and nerdy. My middle name is niche. Pretty much every fic I've written so far is extremely niche, hahaha. I could be coerced into writing particular niche fics, so long as I get some of my current projects finished up; this whole question is really just a tentative feeler for future projects since I have an outline for a post-breakup, pre-ending Solas fic, possibly just a one shot, haven't planned that far ahead yet. Since ME Andromeda fandom seems to have collapsed seriously I'm thinking of retreating to DA, I've been wanting to try my hand at that anyway and Solas is an obvious choice for me to start off with, soooo here I am! Yessss I was laughing so much when I first took those two out with me, it was superb! The snark is strong in those two.
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Post by procutemeister on Mar 8, 2018 20:08:15 GMT
Gotcha. A post-breakup fic would be interesting, lord knows I've speculated on it a lot but I haven't the writing chops to make up anything substantial. I haven't played ME:A, what happened to the fandom?
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Post by Gwyvian on Mar 8, 2018 20:58:49 GMT
Gotcha. A post-breakup fic would be interesting, lord knows I've speculated on it a lot but I haven't the writing chops to make up anything substantial. I haven't played ME:A, what happened to the fandom? Angst is my jam, so that would be my preferred kind of thing, and because I'm so niche I have plans with Abelas, too. Both ample sources of angst! Well, the short version is that EA basically let MEA fall through the cracks; there were tons of complaints about various issues, but what really was the last nail in the coffin was when they announced there would be no DLC's. (This was after the dev team was basically disbanded and reassigned - though the problem starts with the fact that from the get-go all the experienced talent at the studio either left under suspect circumstances or were assigned to Anthem; not to mention that the dev team was a totally different one from the one that developed the original trilogy.) A lot of things went wrong with MEA, but I think that there was a lot of creative material there and a lot of truly satisfying elements in it (personally I really like MEA but I'm a Bioware superfan, so... heavily biased); there was a period when tons of fanfics were being written for MEA, I rode that wave and got a lot of amazing feedback from the niche corners I chose, but after all this went down (and by the time I returned to writing, had a health-related hiatus) the readership had dwindled drastically. I'm going to finish up the fics I started already regardless because I don't want to leave readers hanging, and I love those stories and how they came out so far, but there's no point in forcing the niche if the majority of readers are no longer around. (I mean, I'm still excited by these pairings and I have a core readership who feels the same way, but when your likes drop from 50 to 3 you start to question whether or not your just banging your head into a wall. )
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Post by procutemeister on Mar 8, 2018 21:12:13 GMT
I get you, sad what happened tho I mean of course you should write/do things for yourself, but it's nice to know you're not producing in a void too. I was thinking of getting MEA too after working my way through the trilogy, but it'll have to wait. because I'm so niche I have plans with Abelas, too. Yes. More Abelas content is always a yes.
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Post by Gwyvian on Mar 8, 2018 21:36:16 GMT
I get you, sad what happened tho I mean of course you should write/do things for yourself, but it's nice to know you're not producing in a void too. I was thinking of getting MEA too after working my way through the trilogy, but it'll have to wait. because I'm so niche I have plans with Abelas, too. Yes. More Abelas content is always a yes. IMHO the angara alone are totally worth getting MEA for. They do things to you, hahahaha. (Hence why 3 of my fics center around them in large part...) That's also why I'm disappointed by how things are turning out really, I mean, I think MEA introduced a lot of awesome things into the ME universe, and while I get the complaints and agree with some of them, just killing the whole thing is just... the wrong way to go about it, I think. Well anyway, I'm holding out hope that at the very least they'll make a sequel or a different ME installment - possibly with a dev team that has more experience, hopefully experience directly in ME - and even though MEA flopped the legacy will go on. Until then I'll soldier on with my fanfics and keep promoting them to anyone who is even a little interested, hahaha. I write with a fully fledged plot, my finished fic is basically a full length novel with everything a novel offers (except the benefit of editors, publication, marketing and all the rest of the things "real" novels get), so I want people to know it exists at least... Oh, Abelas is SO happening. Probably an angsty, Shakespearean romance tragedy, because that really suits his character, methinks. And Solas! Well, plenty of material there, too! I've just recently been haunting a Solas Facebook group and I got so damn nostalgic for the wolfy eggman that I decided I seriously need to get back into this... comfortable tragedy zone. :lmfao: I'm so hopeless.
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Post by procutemeister on Mar 9, 2018 1:01:47 GMT
Ah, good luck with your fics! Novel-length... that's impressive. I hope more people get into them... I didn't even know there were Solas facebook groups We all slip on that egg sometimes, don't worry. Which reminds me, what option do you prefer choosing in Trespasser? Redeeming him or opposing him? When I first played it I went for redemption, but I'm rethinking that choice now (both myself and for my Lavellan).
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Post by ladyiolanthe on Mar 9, 2018 1:34:39 GMT
procutemeister , I'm not sure if you're asking Blanketforters in general or Gwyvian specifically so forgive me if I barge in unwanted to the conversation! I'm still firmly in the 'redeem Solas' camp. Ideally there'd be a way to persuade him using logic and wisdom to change his plans - maybe there is a less catastrophic way to lower the Veil that he hasn't thought of because he's a bit blinded by thinking he's the only one who knows how to 'fix' this. But if he's irredeemable and doesn't have a damn good reason for taking down the Veil other than "Ancient Elves deserve a second chance and all you current people don't," then she'd probably agree to the needful and see him killed. It fits my canon Inquisitor because she gave pretty much everyone second chances (except she did send the Chargers to their deaths, so Bull's dead and that's a regret she will carry with her for the rest of her life). So it's in character for her to give Solas a second chance, too.
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Post by Gwyvian on Mar 9, 2018 1:42:19 GMT
Ah, good luck with your fics! Novel-length... that's impressive. I hope more people get into them... I didn't even know there were Solas facebook groups We all slip on that egg sometimes, don't worry. Which reminds me, what option do you prefer choosing in Trespasser? Redeeming him or opposing him? When I first played it I went for redemption, but I'm rethinking that choice now (both myself and for my Lavellan). Thank you! I hope so, too. Indeed there are! A lot of people don't even know about BSN, so of course they made groups for a ton of characters in various fandoms/main pages for franchises on FB, I'm sure they do elsewhere, too. I had to answer questions to get in, things like what other names is Solas known by. I had a few extra ideas there, hahaha. Redeem! Because I'm totally willing to let the world burn, hahahahaha - but I plan on having multiple playthroughs with both options because I want to see how both turn out; if, of course, Solas turns up in DA4 (he had better). I mean, I want my canon Lavellan to be willing to walk through fire to be with Solas because she's lost too much, invested too much into being that positive force in his life even while he slowly crushed her world - from her POV, it all has to be worthwhile, especially everything she did to save her beloved in the first place (and the angst between them made her that much more desperate to be together with him and act as the voice of reason and balance as she was able to do before, changing his opinions), so she would make an effort to save him (and the world if possible, but she's wounded enough that she might not care quite so much about that after everything she's been through and everything done to her). I like my PC's complex, hahaha. With my m!Lavellan I also plan to at least try to save him because Elvhen Glo--err, solidarity but he's my Dorianmancer and his view is that the world is full of crap but totally redeemable in a way that Solas might not be (he's dating a Tevinter magister, hahaha, it can't get much more twisted than that in his eyes), so I think if there's no ultimate save option I'd go against him... and I think my qunari characters, both male and female, will both go for opposition. From their POV, Solas is a hypocrite the moment he reveals this insane plan - he goes on about how qunari are bad because of this and that, and then he plans to destroy the entire world and everyone in it to "fix" it? Nah-ah, not convincing. As I said though, my canon is redeem because... Elvhen Glory!
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Post by procutemeister on Mar 9, 2018 10:49:25 GMT
Don't worry ladyiolanthe, it was an open question Interesting reasons, for sure, as for myself I'm still thinking about either side. For my Inquisitor, she has already lost so much because of him, especially after finding out that the whole thing with Cory started because of Solas, so she would want to break out of that vicious cycle and finally take control of her destiny. She isn't sure either of what might happen if Solas' plan would push through--she doesn't know whether she'll live or die, and like hell she'll lie down and let death come for her. She isn't willing to get jerked around by him anymore. (Also, her playthrough is a Solasmance, ahaha).
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Post by Iddy on Mar 9, 2018 17:12:56 GMT
Is the title's misspelling intentional?
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Post by Julilla on Mar 9, 2018 17:45:54 GMT
Is the title's misspelling intentional? Yes.
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Post by Gwyvian on Mar 9, 2018 18:55:26 GMT
Don't worry ladyiolanthe , it was an open question Interesting reasons, for sure, as for myself I'm still thinking about either side. For my Inquisitor, she has already lost so much because of him, especially after finding out that the whole thing with Cory started because of Solas, so she would want to break out of that vicious cycle and finally take control of her destiny. She isn't sure either of what might happen if Solas' plan would push through--she doesn't know whether she'll live or die, and like hell she'll lie down and let death come for her. She isn't willing to get jerked around by him anymore. (Also, her playthrough is a Solasmance, ahaha). Ultimately, I guess we'll have to wait and see what DA4 has in store for us regarding Solas, we may not even get a choice in the way we're thinking of it - I rather think we should, just considering that Trespasser set it up so neatly for us, but I would hate to find out that what we chose then and there essentially made the decision for us and we can't change it (but it would be typical of BW to throw us a wrench with "unintended consequences of your choices" - I mean that in the fondest way possible, of course, hahaha). I mean, when faced with the dilemma of total annihilation vs. everyone lives (except maybe Solas) I'm not sure how much leeway we have to begin with, I mean if Solas succeeds it's basically game over for us even if we run off into the proverbial sunset with him, we would have failed our task as Inquisitor (and they would have to design a whole new Thedas basically if the story even continued from that point onward), so I'm theorizing that the choice won't exactly come down to that... i.e. possibly Solas is doomed to fail in DA4 no matter what, the question is whether he's a boss fight or if he helps undo what he set in motion (maaaybe - despite his love for Lavellan, he's still pretty persistent about his plans). Speaking of unintended consequences, there's also Mythal's ploy to contend with - and her essence stolen by (given to?) the Dread Wolf, it may have just been a power-up, BUT THIS IS FLEMMETH WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. Unless she was cool with it and sacrificed herself so Solas could "avenge her" or whatever, I'm pretty sure she put safeguards in place to make sure it's not that easy... or it has a price he might be unwilling to pay. It would be just like her. Also, there are still so many unanswered questions about the Old Gods, the Elvhen pantheon, the Grey Wardens and why Solas freaked out so much - there's something going on there, something we've tinfoiled plenty about but haven't satisfactorily answered. So many questions!
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Post by legbamel on Mar 9, 2018 19:53:10 GMT
I actually want Solas to succeed. It seems like a great back door to a ton of lore we have only felt the edges of so far. What a great hook that would be for DA5! Solas dispels the Veil at the end of the next game. Then we get Thedas deconstructed, sliding into a sort of apocalypse and we're dealing with the fallout. Yeah, part of me just wants to watch the world burn. Sadly, it would be difficult to draw in an audience that wasn't already invested in that world, which typically isn't a great direction for a franchise to go.
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Post by Elessara on Mar 9, 2018 22:00:46 GMT
I actually want Solas to succeed. It seems like a great back door to a ton of lore we have only felt the edges of so far. What a great hook that would be for DA5! Solas dispels the Veil at the end of the next game. Then we get Thedas deconstructed, sliding into a sort of apocalypse and we're dealing with the fallout. Yeah, part of me just wants to watch the world burn. Sadly, it would be difficult to draw in an audience that wasn't already invested in that world, which typically isn't a great direction for a franchise to go. I've said this before regarding both Mass Effect and Dragon Age - at some point the devs and writers have to just stop trying to cater to people who might be new to the series. Trying to continue a character's story or build on the stories told in previous games is going to make new comers feel a little lost anyway and honestly new people should expect that when they're jumping into the middle of a franchise. Unless its something like Final Fantasy where preceding games have little to no bearing on the current game.
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Post by midnight tea on Mar 9, 2018 22:33:11 GMT
I actually want Solas to succeed. It seems like a great back door to a ton of lore we have only felt the edges of so far. What a great hook that would be for DA5! Solas dispels the Veil at the end of the next game. Then we get Thedas deconstructed, sliding into a sort of apocalypse and we're dealing with the fallout. Yeah, part of me just wants to watch the world burn. Sadly, it would be difficult to draw in an audience that wasn't already invested in that world, which typically isn't a great direction for a franchise to go. I've said this before regarding both Mass Effect and Dragon Age - at some point the devs and writers have to just stop trying to cater to people who might be new to the series. Trying to continue a character's story or build on the stories told in previous games is going to make new comers feel a little lost anyway and honestly new people should expect that when they're jumping into the middle of a franchise. Unless its something like Final Fantasy where preceding games have little to no bearing on the current game. I don't really think they cater to new audience - it's just that finding a balance between new audience and continuing the ongoing series the installments of which get released years apart can be tricky sometimes. But David Gaider, before he's left his position to Patrick Weekes, stated in an interview that they're making the series with the assumption that people are at least vaguely aware of what happened before.
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Post by Tanyara on Mar 10, 2018 14:22:28 GMT
Heeeeeey guys!! It's been too long! I have a question for you all, how invested are you guys in Solas fics nowadays? Not looking to read, just feeling out a potential audience. I am always looking for new ones. Always
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Post by midnight tea on Mar 10, 2018 15:47:29 GMT
Heeeeeey guys!! It's been too long! I have a question for you all, how invested are you guys in Solas fics nowadays? Not looking to read, just feeling out a potential audience. I am always looking for new ones. Always Anything interesting to reccomend from past year or so? I can't say I was exactly looking, but I'd be down to read something that may catch my interest during The Long Wait...
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Post by Gwyvian on Mar 11, 2018 1:33:53 GMT
I actually want Solas to succeed. It seems like a great back door to a ton of lore we have only felt the edges of so far. What a great hook that would be for DA5! Solas dispels the Veil at the end of the next game. Then we get Thedas deconstructed, sliding into a sort of apocalypse and we're dealing with the fallout. Yeah, part of me just wants to watch the world burn. Sadly, it would be difficult to draw in an audience that wasn't already invested in that world, which typically isn't a great direction for a franchise to go. I've always wanted a game a game like that, hahahaha. But I understand why they wouldn't do it, it's a risky plot. Still, I've always loved DA for being much darker than most fantasy stories I see out there, and you can do a little world burning? I'll be honest, the first moment I was faced with the choice in Trespasser, I immediately had a brief fantasy play out in my mind that went something like this: Solas fetches the Inquisitor sometime later when he's ready to do the deed, stealing her away from her castle, minions and friends, he takes her to a safe place where he's gathered those he wants to preserve in the new world and everything is washed away in fire and ash until the lands are restored to what they used to be during the days of elvhen rule. She mourns everything and everyone lost, but she is ready to reclaim everything lost by her people. Maybe, just maybe, she might convince Solas to similarly spare the other inhabitants of Thedas, thereby rendering his insane plan a little less terrible... I was seriously considering it for a while there, hahahahaha. I'm terrible, I know. I've said this before regarding both Mass Effect and Dragon Age - at some point the devs and writers have to just stop trying to cater to people who might be new to the series. Trying to continue a character's story or build on the stories told in previous games is going to make new comers feel a little lost anyway and honestly new people should expect that when they're jumping into the middle of a franchise. Unless its something like Final Fantasy where preceding games have little to no bearing on the current game. I don't really think they cater to new audience - it's just that finding a balance between new audience and continuing the ongoing series the installments of which get released years apart can be tricky sometimes. But David Gaider, before he's left his position to Patrick Weekes, stated in an interview that they're making the series with the assumption that people are at least vaguely aware of what happened before. I remember this. I know they designed it in a way that newcomers could enjoy it as a full experience, but it was always implied that there's a lot of content there that you'll only really appreciate if you're already a DA fan, meaning you've played the previous games - or something along those lines. Heeeeeey guys!! It's been too long! I have a question for you all, how invested are you guys in Solas fics nowadays? Not looking to read, just feeling out a potential audience. I am always looking for new ones. Always Good, goooood. Soon I shall write something, then!
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Post by Tanyara on Mar 17, 2018 11:43:04 GMT
I am always looking for new ones. Always Anything interesting to reccomend from past year or so? I can't say I was exactly looking, but I'd be down to read something that may catch my interest during The Long Wait... Right now I'm reading Tell it from the Mountain by deleriumofyou on AO3. It is a bit different but I find it refreshing and well written! It is a Solas romance but not Solavellan, Inq is an Avvar
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Post by arvaarad on Mar 17, 2018 22:08:26 GMT
I am always looking for new ones. Always Anything interesting to reccomend from past year or so? I can't say I was exactly looking, but I'd be down to read something that may catch my interest during The Long Wait... The Half-Life of Element Zero is a really good recent one. It’s so recent it’s still in progress, with fairly regular updates. I’m in awe of how the writer manages to make such a challenging premise into a grounded, believable story.
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Post by Gwyvian on Mar 17, 2018 22:10:19 GMT
Anything interesting to reccomend from past year or so? I can't say I was exactly looking, but I'd be down to read something that may catch my interest during The Long Wait... The Half-Life of Element Zero is a really good recent one. It’s so recent it’s still in progress, with fairly regular updates. I’m in awe of how the writer manages to make such a challenging premise into a grounded, believable story. Hey, if we're recommending Mass Effect fics.... *shameless self-promotion*
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