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Post by ladyiolanthe on Dec 7, 2018 14:49:12 GMT
Gareth David-Lloyd @pancheersSooo looking forward to voicing Solas again. This teaser is beautiful @dragonage #TheDreadWolfRises
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Post by ladyiolanthe on Dec 7, 2018 14:58:44 GMT
BSN Forums' twitter account has a poll at the moment. Right now it's 60-40 people who want to save Solas vs. people who want to kill him. That pleases me somehow.
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Post by Julilla on Dec 7, 2018 16:48:13 GMT
I keep going over to my coworkers cubicles for no reason and doing made up goofy dances while singing "Oh yeah! Oh yeah! Draaaaaggggonnnn Age! Uh! Uh!" and they are highly amused. Though one of them said "Don't come crying to me when it all goes south again!" roflmao.
I'm hype times a bazillion right now, eeeeeee! Also, I'm purposely not thinking about the whole possibility of Solas being a jackass with red lyrium.
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Post by uirebhiril on Dec 7, 2018 16:52:44 GMT
SO THAT TEASER, HUH? Hi, everyone! I find the teaser image interesting. Is he the dread wolf breaking through the circle, or is he the elf guy holding up a hand and... defending something? Both? Anthem is taking all the steam from BioWare, from the sound of it, so I wonder how/when we'll see the next DA game. It can't be too long if we have teasers... right? Though I won't lie, I'm nervous what the outcome will be.
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Post by Solas on Dec 7, 2018 17:15:11 GMT
BSN Forums' twitter account has a poll at the moment. Right now it's 60-40 people who want to save Solas vs. people who want to kill him. That pleases me somehow. i'm so conflicted I wanna save him but I have to kill him
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Post by gervaise21 on Dec 7, 2018 17:22:00 GMT
Definitely think the Dread Wolf Rises is not just relating to him becoming more prominent in Thedas again but the alter ego of Solas starting to take over as he focuses on his end goal to the exclusion of everything and everyone else. Right back in DA2 I thought the red lyrium idol reminded me of Flemeth, so now I'm convinced it was an idol of Mythal made by the dwarves who worshipped her. We know from Trespasser how Mythal, Solas, dwarves and lyrium are all connected and Solas knew exactly why there was red lyrium at the site of the Conclave explosion, it is just that no one paid much attention to his comment in the background when Cassandra and Varric were discussing it. Now they have definitely linked the red lyrium idol to the Dread Wolf. So everything is coming together from the previous games. Great isn't it?
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Post by doggiesnores on Dec 7, 2018 17:43:01 GMT
Also, posting this since I'm not sure how's there any doubt that it's relevant as heck: Well, we saw bits of it today alright "When he rises, everyone will see...." #TheDreadWolfRises
Ah, Sandal. You better be in the next game somewhere. I want to find out if you're June or not. if he is June, i'll be even more proud of my favorite vallaslin than i already am
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Post by Julilla on Dec 7, 2018 18:36:19 GMT
No, why? edit: this didn't format correctly because I'm dumb, but Thread Dad, you don't *have* to kill Solas.
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Post by NeverlandHunter on Dec 7, 2018 18:37:54 GMT
;-; I'm not crying, you're crying!
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Post by Solas on Dec 7, 2018 18:45:19 GMT
No, why? edit: this didn't format correctly because I'm dumb, but Thread Dad, you don't *have* to kill Solas. RP dictates it D'8 i really do not want to but this is the constraints of the personality of my canonquizistor. <iframe width="23.960000000000036" height="4.840000000000003" style="position: absolute; width: 23.96px; height: 4.84px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 14px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_80498195" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="23.960000000000036" height="4.840000000000003" style="position: absolute; width: 23.96px; height: 4.84px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1138px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_81374447" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="23.960000000000036" height="4.840000000000003" style="position: absolute; width: 23.96px; height: 4.84px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 14px; top: 181px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_53507643" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="23.960000000000036" height="4.840000000000003" style="position: absolute; width: 23.96px; height: 4.84px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1138px; top: 181px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_15952092" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="23.6400000000001" height="4.840000000000003" style="position: absolute; width: 23.64px; height: 4.84px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 14px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_66856598" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="23.6400000000001" height="4.840000000000003" style="position: absolute; width: 23.64px; height: 4.84px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1123px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_19697719" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="23.6400000000001" height="4.840000000000003" style="position: absolute; width: 23.64px; height: 4.84px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 14px; top: 182px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_71969106" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="23.6400000000001" height="4.840000000000003" style="position: absolute; width: 23.64px; height: 4.84px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1123px; top: 182px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_55971738" scrolling="no"></iframe> I I cannot break them (edit: lmao sry i dont know whats happened to the formatting of this post)
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Post by midnight tea on Dec 7, 2018 18:48:07 GMT
Definitely think the Dread Wolf Rises is not just relating to him becoming more prominent in Thedas again but the alter ego of Solas starting to take over as he focuses on his end goal to the exclusion of everything and everyone else. Right back in DA2 I thought the red lyrium idol reminded me of Flemeth, so now I'm convinced it was an idol of Mythal made by the dwarves who worshipped her. We know from Trespasser how Mythal, Solas, dwarves and lyrium are all connected and Solas knew exactly why there was red lyrium at the site of the Conclave explosion, it is just that no one paid much attention to his comment in the background when Cassandra and Varric were discussing it. Now they have definitely linked the red lyrium idol to the Dread Wolf. So everything is coming together from the previous games. Great isn't it? Here's an interesting little theory - what if the idol isn't crafted? What if it's something more complex and a bit more sinister? Honestly? Given how idol looks like skeletal Mythal and she appears like she's ascending but is held back in place by other skeletal figures, as if trying to prevent or preventing her escape? There's one thing that comes to mind. Prison.
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Post by uirebhiril on Dec 7, 2018 19:30:21 GMT
No, why? edit: this didn't format correctly because I'm dumb, but Thread Dad, you don't *have* to kill Solas. RP dictates it D'8 i really do not want to but this is the constraints of the personality of my canonquizistor. <iframe width="23.960000000000036" height="4.840000000000003" style="position: absolute; width: 23.96px; height: 4.84px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 14px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_80498195" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="23.960000000000036" height="4.840000000000003" style="position: absolute; width: 23.96px; height: 4.84px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1138px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_81374447" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="23.960000000000036" height="4.840000000000003" style="position: absolute; width: 23.96px; height: 4.84px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 14px; top: 181px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_53507643" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="23.960000000000036" height="4.840000000000003" style="position: absolute; width: 23.96px; height: 4.84px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1138px; top: 181px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_15952092" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="23.6400000000001" height="4.840000000000003" style="position: absolute; width: 23.64px; height: 4.84px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 14px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_66856598" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="23.6400000000001" height="4.840000000000003" style="position: absolute; width: 23.64px; height: 4.84px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1123px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_19697719" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="23.6400000000001" height="4.840000000000003" style="position: absolute; width: 23.64px; height: 4.84px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 14px; top: 182px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_71969106" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="23.6400000000001" height="4.840000000000003" style="position: absolute; width: 23.64px; height: 4.84px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1123px; top: 182px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_55971738" scrolling="no"></iframe> I I cannot break them (edit: lmao sry i dont know whats happened to the formatting of this post)
Sure, but is that only if what he intends to do is for more "selfish" reasons of saving his own people/putting the world back to rights, or is it also true if his hand is forced to do what he is doing, either by a geas or because that literally is the only option to have some world survive whatever the Blight/other catastrophe will cause?
I'm so torn on which way I want that to go. Having the "easy" out of Solas is acting in the best interest, even if the most destructive, would at least be good feels in that he was "right." But I really appreciate having an anti-hero or otherwise darker character doing what he is doing for reasons other than "mwahahaha!" evil. Being compelled to right a wrong you did, even at all costs, is a refreshing departure from that. And I love how Solas owns that about himself, even if we don't know precisely what it's all about.
I don't know, it just seems like boiling the whole thing down to "I can't wait to kill him!" or "I want to redeem him!" is simplifying the whole thing to a disappointing level. That's the obvious narrative to follow, and I guess in a video game there's only so far you can take it. But I really want something more complex than that to round out this particular story.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2018 19:34:17 GMT
In light of that new mural, this little snippet of conversation just got a lot more interesting: Inquisitor: And calling the army of demons. That’s my favorite part. Solas: The demons are nothing. They’re a tool. Inquisitor: A tool that would have let Corypheus ride roughshod over most of Orlais. Solas:Even if they hadn’t, the entire idea is wrong. Solas: The Blight is not something one smugly outsmarts.Solas: Forgive me. The entire idea is… unnerving. Inquisitor: I wouldn’t mind never having another Blight. Corypheus interfering is the real problem. Solas: The Blight is the real problem.Inquisitor: And the Wardens are trying to end the Blight forever. Solas: That’s not the point. Even if they could succeed, the entire idea is wrong.Solas:Are you pleased to have the Grey Wardens on your side? Do you wish you could join their proud little cult? Solas: How long, do you think, before their next attempt to control something beyond their comprehension? Inquisitor: The Wardens deserved a chance to redeem themselves. Solas: Their only purpose is to protect the world from something they do not understand, something that corrupts them!<---This line, tho. Remember my post about Solas possibly being the first Grey Warden? So is the Dread Wolf half of Solas holding back all the corruption that tainted the Black City? Remember the sun in the making of the Veil mural? The blackened peacock feathers around it that represent pride? I'm screaming. "Cut off his leg to escape the trap" Cole said. Even if you try to kill him, the Blight-seething rest of him is in the Fade. Maybe to stop the Blights permanently we have to either kill or cure him.
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Post by Solas on Dec 7, 2018 20:10:14 GMT
ok, i've finally reached the Being Very Upset stage of the processing.. process. and omg..... no................ nooo.....................
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Post by Solas on Dec 7, 2018 20:31:58 GMT
this is it - Would you kill me, ma vhenan? For the People? Without. Question. ಥ___ಥ edit: i'm gonna eat an entire packet of cheese
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Post by cerulione on Dec 7, 2018 21:17:39 GMT
Gosh I've just seen the new teaser... GIVE ME MY BELOVED EGG! Please please please Bioware gives us option to get our Lavellan back with him safe and sound...
Have it ever been discussed in this thread whether the lyrium idol from DA2's connection with the ancient elves...? Somehow I kinda imagine that "Thaig" is actually not a dwarven thaig, but a kind of temple that the ancient elves built after killing a Titan... A tainted Titan? Or the Titan got tainted because of the Ancient Elves...? And what the heck does Solas know about it all!
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Post by Kaazmiin on Dec 7, 2018 22:00:09 GMT
Just popping in here to share some of the amazing Solas artwork that has already been made in reaction to the teaser (How fast are these people? Do our amazing artists ever sleep??)
...by the one and only Nipuni
...by katorius (thereisnomadnessanymore on tumblr)
... by nikranel on tumblr and deviantart
...by tellinpa
...by Crowns and Horns on tumblr.
...by Ataner The Artist on tumblr.
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Post by midnight tea on Dec 7, 2018 22:16:03 GMT
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Post by draconaise on Dec 7, 2018 22:17:46 GMT
I would just like to say that my first reaction immediately after watching the DA4 teaser was... *MUST RUN TO BLANKETFORT 2.0* Hello, old friends.
So excited for the next game!!
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Post by Psychedelic on Dec 7, 2018 22:45:04 GMT
Just popping in here to share some of the amazing Solas artwork that has already been made in reaction to the teaser (How fast are these people? Do our amazing artists ever sleep??)
Some people must have had a sleepless night for sure. Also the consensus seems to be that it is really Solas on that mural (the left figure, I mean, not the Dread Wolf).
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Post by midnight tea on Dec 7, 2018 22:51:03 GMT
Just popping in here to share some of the amazing Solas artwork that has already been made in reaction to the teaser (How fast are these people? Do our amazing artists ever sleep??)
Some people must have had a sleepless night for sure. Also the consensus seems to be that it is really Solas on that mural (the left figure, I mean, not the Dread Wolf). The whole teaser was about the Dread Wolf, so it's not surprising - plus, Solas has multiple images (his murals or tarot cards) in which he is portrayed together with his wolf persona on the side.
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Post by close2myheart on Dec 7, 2018 22:54:16 GMT
Well, his VA sure can pull a FenHarel there 😆 Dreadwolf Rising indeed and above my expectation tbh.
Well, here's to hoping y'all ladies got that long awaited romance content (since it's sorely lacking in DAI)
Though admittedly, I just had to ask, how optimistic are you guys about this romance not ending in a tear-jerking festival? 😅 (just curious)
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Post by Psychedelic on Dec 7, 2018 23:06:32 GMT
Some people must have had a sleepless night for sure. Also the consensus seems to be that it is really Solas on that mural (the left figure, I mean, not the Dread Wolf). The whole teaser was about the Dread Wolf, so it's not surprising - plus, Solas has multiple images (his murals or tarot cards) in which he is portrayed together with his wolf persona on the side. Some people here were in favour of Elgar'nan or Falon'Din. Now that the artist has apparently confirmed the figure is indeed bald, there is little doubt who it is. Not so many bald elves around. But when they started making this fan art all of them must have immediately jumped to that conclusion, which could have gone very wrong.
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Post by close2myheart on Dec 7, 2018 23:10:46 GMT
Gosh I've just seen the new teaser... GIVE ME MY BELOVED EGG! Please please please Bioware gives us option to get our Lavellan back with him safe and sound... Have it ever been discussed in this thread whether the lyrium idol from DA2's connection with the ancient elves...? Somehow I kinda imagine that "Thaig" is actually not a dwarven thaig, but a kind of temple that the ancient elves built after killing a Titan... A tainted Titan? Or the Titan got tainted because of the Ancient Elves...? And what the heck does Solas know about it all! Ooh!! Interesting plot twist if it were true! I mean most of the time we always thought 'Thaig = Dwarves' and only during treaspasser we'd get to learn that elves dig holes too underground 😆 Bioware trully is an amazing storyteller! I love how their game evolves from DAO and now to DADR.. can't waaaaiiiit
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