The Blanketfort (crying and throwing up) - The Official Solas Thread [Spoilers]

The amusing thing is that he does that when he's caught off-guard It's like 'oh, um... damn, I can't really just tell the truth without it sounding suspicious, can I?"

I think he still tried though - in a sense that he was there as Fen'Harel or whatever other mask he was wearing, but never as 'elven apostate' (apostate has a very convenient double meaning here) and the Fade nerd we know him as. Still, it was obvious that he was fumbling

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He seems quite proud of you when you do figure it out, though.  




ETA: It interests me that often, when you choose an angry option for Lavellan's dialogue with Solas, Lavellan speaks in Elvhen. Suggests to me that the Dalish still have a decent understanding of that language. But then there are other places where people speak it and your Lavellan has no clue what's being said. Kind of a weird dichotomy.

Yea, though at that point the wolf's out of the bag

Anyway - DAI suggests that the at end of the main game any Inquisitor picks up some ancient elvhen language, though that doesn't mean that they're fluent in it, especially if words or phrases are obscure.

As others have said, I think he genuinely does get some of his information from interacting with the spirits in the location. Ostagar is a case in point. If he had been witnessing that directly from the Fade then I think he would have formed his own opinion about Loghain's actions, not given the two differing interpretations.

However, "I saw it in the Fade" can cover both lying around in ruins and directly viewing it in Uthenera. For example, he tells us about the actions of a Qunari baker in Par Vollen. I doubt he actually visited Par Vollen, much less lay around just picking up random stuff like this. However, he despises the Qun and so it would seem he probably has spent a great deal of time in the Fade watching them and this is how he came to see what the baker was up to.



The thing about this is that we don't know exactly where the Ancient Thaig was in relation to the land above and if he wanted to be close to the idol to keep an eye on it then surely he should have been in the Deep Roads somewhere? Some sort of great battle was fought at Sundermount. Whether that was a last stand between the refugees of Arlathan Forest and Tevinter, or an earlier battle at the end of the elven civil war, that was why the Veil was thin there and, if you take the movie Redemption as canon (I don't), then that would account for why the mask needed to be taken there.



Don't think there was any relation between the two personally. Felassan was active in the world preparing for his return at least 20 years before the events of DAI. The red lyrium idol was discovered around 8 years before. If Solas had been keeping tabs on it then you would think he would have sent Felassan to track it down after it was brought to the surface. Plus if the idol being located was the trigger to him waking up, then he took a hell of a long time about it, 7 years to be precise.

This is also why I doubt Flemeth was alluding to Solas when she said she had an appointment to keep because, again, he didn't wake up until a year before DAI, so what was the rush? And if he had known where Flemeth/Mythal was he would surely have gone to her for advice about his orb. In fact he did seem to be seeking her out because he went to Flemeth's hut (one of his lying around accounts) but she was long gone. Even so, it may have been more a case of ascertaining who exactly Asha'Bellanar was rather than immediately suspecting she was the vessel of Mythal. When we are in the ToM his exclamation as we enter the inner sanctum that "Mythal lives" sounded like he was genuinely surprised, although I have to admit it is hard to tell sometimes just how much he did know in advance.

That whole thing with Flemeth and Sundermount has always seemed different to me than it seems it does to most. For one, Flemeth wasn't sure Hawke would actually take the amulet to Sundermount - as she says, she half expected it to end up with a merchant. Flemeth also had no idea how long it would take Hawke to even get to Sundermount or if Hawke ever would (even if they didn't sell the amulet). If she really needed to get to Sundermount this seems like a really unreliable way to get there even if she does want to get there in secret.

Flemeth also says that she put a part of herself in the amulet "in case the inevitable occurred" which to me appears as though the whole amulet thing was merely a safeguard and when asked why she didn't come herself, Flemeth says she had (past tense) not has (present tense) an appointment to keep. To me, this means Flemeth couldn't come directly because she had something else (the appointment) to do so she put a part of herself in the amulet in case the appointment went badly (or as badly as it could for someone like her).

This is not to say that Solas wasn't actually asleep at Sundermount; he may very well have been. I just really don't think the appointment that Flemeth references has anything to do with Solas in particular.

I also believe the appointment Flemeth references is the one with the Warden as well.  A lot of people say that the appointment was to wake Solas up on Sundermount; that's mostly what I was getting at when I said I viewed the appointment differently.

I also personally don't believe Solas was asleep at Sundermount but I really don't have anything to actually back that up other than a feeling so I can't dismiss the possibility.  Although I wouldn't be surprised if he had been asleep in ancient elven ruins underneath the town of Solas.   

Correct me if I'm wrong, but was Sandal speaking of Solas in the DA2 epilogue? I was never quite sure if it was him or Corypheus.

That's what I thought, but at first I was thinking Cory because of the skies opening, but it seems he was speaking of the events that are still to come.

"One day the magic will come back. All of it. Everyone will be just like they were. The shadows will part, and the skies will open wide."

This sounds like Solas is going to succeed.

Is that cut dialogue still in the game files? Cus now I'm wondering if that could be restored in a mod.

Oooh that's interesting! Now I'm picturing DA4 as a Fallout game. 

AlleluiaElizabeth They might be in the game files. I remembering hearing the clips.