The Blanketfort (crying and throwing up) - The Official Solas Thread [Spoilers]

Well, this isn't really a matter that has to be one or the other. I'm not sure how much they feel they *had* to add DagnaxSera, but I can think of a few more reasons than what I theorized above and it being cute.

a.) characters have their own lives that don't stop or pause when we (players or PCs) aren't around. The fact that we didn't observe it the way we did Adoribull doesn't mean that it isn't valid.

b.) it shows Sera's character growth and a curious thing about her too. I mean... it's Sera. She hates magic. Yet she falls in love in someone who is pretty much obsessed with it - and it's not like it's an ugly secret with Dagna It's obvious from the start. Her not being able to be possessed doesn't mean that what she does is benign - Dagna scares the living hell out of Cullen because of how wild she can be with her experiments, for example, lol.
But Sera can be reasoned with in case of magic - from her banters and things she spoke she seems to be able to accept it so long as she is able to compartmentalize it and understand the cause and effect chain. Dagna is likely the character who'd likely be able to make magic less scary to her. I really wouldn't be surprised if - if Sera showed up in the future - she would astound us with her knowledge of how to deal with all that magical sh*t. She does have her moments in main game after all when it turns out that she knows stuff we wouldn't suspect her of knowing, which shows she can absorb knowledge despite maintaining the air of stubborn airhead most of the times.

But we have good reasons to assume that Dorian will likely be coming back and playing a vital role in future events, so it's not like we just get an update on his life when he's saying that. Dorian is always present, always going back to Tevinter and always for the same reason, and his story beat is likely setting up things that will be canonic regardless of world-state.

Sera's romance, on the other hand, is just one of her many quantum states. So yeah - I wouldn't be surprised if they squeezed that where they could, between time and resources alloted to her.
Haha, a lot of us would probably like getting more story and spending more time with these characters Plus, I'm the sort of person who likes details and bit of a slower pace - heck, I didn't even mind it in Hobbit movies as much as some other people, lol.

Here's hoping we're going to see them at some point in the future, hopefully in some meaningful ways, even if smaller roles. I think a lot of people enjoyed seeing these characters grow some more after the end of the main game and it would be interesting to see how would they change further.

That's hilarous!

I see that me pointing out that Dagna would be the one able to explain magic to Sera in a way Sera can understand and accept it got ignored...

Anyway - do issues with Lavellan stem only from Sera's approach to magic (which is what was discussed above), or non-magical issues surrounding elves and elfiness?

And I'm not saying that I'm necessarily on Sera's side here. But those ARE different issues.

Inquisitors can, however shortly, address Sera's issues - as are other characters, like Dorian. I'm not sure why 'undercutting our agency' is such a big deal in a game we appreciate for characters who have a measure of their own agency too.

Plus, we ARE moving entirely in an area of speculation here. I mean, whatever evolution she may have had or has, it still happens off-screen.

The fact that she can love a dwarf who herself loves magic doesn't mean that Inquisitor or nobody else is unable to not change her mind about things like magic, even if it may take twice as long for us to get to Sera.

Dagna however, theoretically may act as a character to guide her through it in case there is *nobody* there willing to budge Sera's mind on the issue, for whatever reason. Branching stories that still aim to have some cohesive continuation need to have some continuity failsafes like that in order to explain the state of affairs in world-states in which Sera either wasn't recruited, befriended or Inquisitor wasn't a fan of magic themselves.

Please don't put words in my mouth.

Er, no they aren't. The fact that they're short, compared to real life or mediums that allow for longer narrative growth doesn't mean that they're an equivalent of 'a few short conversations'. We know why they may feel short - it's just how games are and how they're designed and there's only so much space and resources for what ultimately is an optional content (that is already super-expensive to create for Bioware or any other game utilizing those).

And still Personal Quests are something that triggers only when we have enough approval with most companions (or after certaina actions), which is usually not just a result of us talking to them a few times, as much as our dialogues can affect their approval too.
Sera doesn't experience any character growth...? Vivienne is debatable, but Sera opens towards us and we see she is slowly willing to budge on her positions. The fact that she doesn't grow to an extent you'd like ain't invalidating that - plus, it proves that Sera may simply need time with further growth that we may kick-start.

Also - companions and characters aren't there just to serve their role as our companions. They are characters in full right and they serve multiple roles that go way beyond us affecting them - they affect us as well. And I don't just mean in terms of, say, emotions - they provide exposition, points of views, story beats, context, set ups for future plot and so on. Each character serves a larger role within the story, which you appear to be perfectly aware of.
So because you don't feel like you have a satisfying effect on a character or two you immediately write off Bioware's game as RPGs? Also - how are Vivienne and Sera fixed? They still change or react differently to different responses or treatment from Inquisitor. They *can* become our genuine friends. Good luck getting that in action/adventure game with fixed characters.

Plus, can we really argue that we don't have an effect on characters ourselves when we can help Vivienne become the Divine - one of the most influential leaders on the South?
But it isn't, plus I've already made a case why it's specifically Dagna that could act like someone who explains Sera magic, in a way a mage could never do (even if only because both gals are non-mages).

I'm betting a Solas who hates you in DAI is probably repeating a mantra of "don't ask questions, don't look at me, don't even breathe in this room I'm sitting in" when the Inquisitor would show up for chats.

Who?

Sorry, I can never get the spelling of his name right.  

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