The Blanketfort (crying and throwing up) - The Official Solas Thread [Spoilers]

Heeeyyyy guys, it's been a while!

Welcome back!  How's it going?

Here we go, I found it!

Depending on the outfit, black would be fine.  But he should never dance like that.  Ever.  Ever ever ever.

I'm 99% certain this is something based on a real thing of some sort Dancing *can* be ritualistic and we do know that in ancient elves' culture plants held significant importance.

 I must be doing something wrong, because that rain of money just ain't materializing...

Well, so much for liking Cole. 

That conversation seems to reference when Solas put the Veil up in the first place not giving Corypheus the orb as I don't think Solas would refer to himself as "a much younger elf" for more recent events.  I was referencing giving Corypheus the orb.  Sorry, I should have been more clear.

I had meant that we couldn't really get angry at Cole for not telling us that Solas was Fen'Harel and that he gave Corypheus the orb.  Cole just doesn't think the way other people do and I don't even know if Cole knows that Solas gave Corypheus the orb.

I can only imagine that Andrastian characters would have been even more dismissive if Cole tried to tell them that not only was Fen'Harel an ancient elven god (even if Solas doesn't consider himself to be a god, he was at one point considered one and still is by the Dalish) but that Solas was also the one that created the Veil, not the Maker as per Andrastian belief.

At any rate, we really don't have much of a reason to be angry at Solas for putting the Veil up in the first place, in my opinion. It happened so far in the past it would be like people of today getting angry at Rome for wiping out Carthage. An argument could even be made that the people of current Thedas would never even have existed if Solas hadn't put up the Veil so in a way they owe their existence to him

We know Cole knows who and what Solas is.
We know Cole knows Solas put up the Veil.
We don't know if Cole is aware that Solas gave Corypheus the orb.
We don't know if Cole was aware of what Solas was planning when he got the orb back.
It is a safe assumption that Cole is aware of all of this after Trespasser but by then it's all moot anyway.

Edit to add:   Cole doesn't know everything.  He even says in a conversation with Iron Bull that he can only see what's causing a person pain.  I think it's also safe to assume that Solas can block Cole from seeing into his head.  I mean, the whole question started out only as, "Did Cole know who Solas was the whole time?"  And the answer to that was, "Yes."  As far as I can tell no mention was made at all as to if Cole knew what Solas was planning.

It's also possible that even if Cole did know of Solas's part in giving Corypheaus the orb (which is dubious), Cole was simply willing to forgive Solas.

By all accounts, Cole--both in asunder and DAI--has no qualm about killing those who intend or did hurt people. In addition to killing Seeker Lambert, he downright says he would kill templars that would come for Vivienne, and told an Inquisitor that the Wardens who "used orders to hurt people" should be killed if they came back. Which is to say nothing of the various people he kills while acting as a party member. So its not like he is adverse to killing people.

Meanwhile he knew about Blackwall's true identity and did little more than attempt to console him, of all things. And he is also willing to work alongside Iron Bull despite the fact that he 'likes killing' and regardless of whether of he Tal-Vashoth or Qunari (and Cole notes that it didn't hurt him all that much). If I had to guess, I would guess that so long as perpetrator:

A : No longer kills out of malicious intent and
B : Feels sufficient guilt for any past crimes

Cole may be willing to forgive just about anyone. Seems befitting for a spirit of compassion. The only potential exception to this would be the templar that killed the real Cole who is exempt for personally traumatic reasons. And one thing Cole always notes about Solas in the base game is how sorrowful and sad he is.

If Cole did know that he gave the orb to Cory, and thus was unintentionally responsible for all of the deaths resulting from the breach, Cole may have forgiven him since Solas was willing to help people and likely didn't intend for those people to die at the conclave anyway. That being said I doubt Cole was aware of Solas's master plan to tear down the veil until Trespasser. Or maybe he did and is just holding out hope for Solas because he believes "He isn't that kind of wolf".