The Blanketfort (crying and throwing up) - The Official Solas Thread [Spoilers]

I had a lot of trouble with that battle too. I'm glad it wasn't just me, sucking at games. I hate lowering the difficulty once I start a game so it was a difficult decision to make.
I'm a completionist too. Must gather ALL the shards!

TOP! My own screenshot will do.

*popping in with a question out of the blue*

This is something I started pondering last night.

You how when I go into the Fade at Adamant, Solas says the place belongs to the Nightmare demon? And then you have to fight lesser spirits which seem to serve the Nightmare?

So it just dawned on me that spirits have their own power hierarchy that we (or at least I) know almost nothing about.

Do you think there are spirit empires and spirit rulers in the Fade? Or perhaps they have something like democracy in Ancient Greece?

Or maybe they were under the ruling of the Evanuris until the Veil went up, but since then things have been somewhat chaotic in the Fade, but they do listen to Fen'harel?

Hey there Siha, welcome. Yeah, this is the official "Blanketfort 2". Some threadusers also participate in their capacity as individuals on places like RDF and Elfroot Club. Tried to make Blanketfort 2 as familiar as possible, and the wider community and admins etc here on cBSN/BSNb/BSNu seem to be trying to do the same thing for the forum as a whole with things like layout, subforums, themes, major threads etc. It's awesome, but still I'm real sad to lose the original thread and the original BSN, think that's pretty natural. sux. kick in the nads thx bw

Finally a good topic to do the theorycrafting! 

When we ask Solas about his travels in the Fade, he says that he encountered powerful spirit of emotion that no one remembers, and it was the king of big part of the Fade Solas was visiting. In DA: Origins we are visiting place in the Fade which is domain of certain sloth demon and we have to kill his guardians. I think that spirits have hierarchy based on their sentience. Spirits with greatest sentience have strongest will and are able to shape the "reality" in the fade to suit their purpose. For example Nightmare lair responds to dreamers by creating the most horrible visions for particular pearson. It's probable that most of the spirits in the fade have sentience on the similar level to animals and have cat-human relationship with powerful spirits (more powerful spirits give them shelter and place to act on their purpose, but those spirits are more or less independent). The most sentient ones with their own domain in fade would probably have completely neutral relations with their neighbours. We know that the Fade is virtually endless, so the most prosperous domains would simply inflate themselves rather than consume others.


If Fade was just state of nature in times of Arlathan, and ancient elf passing through place of high fade density would said "the fade is thick, finally I can easily shape reality around me today and finish that 1 kilometer high sculpture I was doing for last millennium" and from codexes we encounter in Vir Dirthara we can assume that sentient spirits were equal to elves members of society, we can easily assume that ultimate God-kings, the Evanuris ruled the Fade too. Maybe the spirits would be prefered governors of those areas?

tl;dr Spirits have hierarchy based on sentience, more sentient spirits have lesser spirit cats and Evanuris were so awesome that they have ruled the Fade too.  

WAIT A MIN. I need clarification over something, maybe I'm just dumb and I forgot about something because i wasn't paying attention at some crucial codex or dialogue, BUT :
In my previous post I wrote "spirit and demons are born from our emotions" and edited it as "spirit and demons are reflects of our emotions" because we're told this a few times in the games but my brain found a paradox here.

Weren't there spirits before emotions ? Spirits are supposed to be a part of any life form aren't they ? Or at first everyone was tranquil and suddenly emotions appeared, and then spirits formed in a mirrored process in the fade, and the tranquils started sheltering some of them naturally, makin emotions spread everywhere and so plenty other spirits would appear and so on ?? Gzajgheuzjh does anyone know anything about this

First of all, thanks everyone for the amazing answers, hope there's more! Have some hearts.

Now about this paradox - didn't we have this convo on discord where someone mentioned titan dreams fueling the Fade?

So what if titans came first and the original spirits were born of their emotions?

(And then spirits became elves who turned against titans?... That's sad.) 

Random observation: I completed "Anvil of the Void" yesterday and it struck me the Void might be located in the Deep Roads. Could its location be what the ancient elves discovered before Solas stopped them?

In the legend Fen'Harel tricked the Forgotten Ones and sealed them there, and in Trespasser we find out Solas had part of the Deep Roads sealed and memories erased.

My theory: The Blight and the Void are connected and the Black City once golden might have been something in Arlathan that Solas placed in the Void, but when he formed the Veil it ended up trapped in the Fade?

Yep this is what I had in mind, but explained way more eloquently that I could.

The elves didn't really know they are turning against their original creators.

Or maybe some unpopular people (ahem, I can think of one) found out the truth, tried to tell the rest, but they wouldn't listen?

Someone really caught the meaning of my post, cutting through dense bushes of typos and grammatical mistakes and called it eloquent? It really flatters me. Thank you.

I don't think that Solas found out and even if he would he wouldn't have got attached to idea. Of course he floods Varric with dwarfy questions and says "dwarves are the severed arm of a once mighty hero, lying in a pool of blood" (hahah the hero being Titan and the blood lyrim...Solas is sometimes so unintentionally funny!) but he is too much dlf-centred for me to rally address this problem in the past.  

EDIT:
@ladyamell - "They made bodies from the earth. And the earth was afraid. It fought back. But they made it forget." SWEET MYTHAL! I haven't even considered this quote when writing, yet it confirms it so well! 
As for peacock feathers in western culture peacocks are symbol of hubris. It can be easily translated that their deed was too prideful, it being one of biggest man sins and that the blight exist solely to humiliate man.
Morrigan wears magpie feathers, because her name is originating from Celtic goddess, which was associated with this bird and they were present because of design reasons, or those are crow feathers because one of animals that she can turn in is crow and in many fantastic worlds it's necessary for shapeshifter to have piece of animal which they are turning in.   
As for Flemythal, those appear to be rooster tail feathers and are there simply for ornamental purposes. Or Flemythal can change in giant rooster. I want to see it. 
And Solas painted eyes, which could symbolise spirits, witch observe the waking world constantly. 

Forgive me for crappy drawing but I just had to do it. 

EDIT: It's also my 50 post on this forum! Yay!