The Blanketfort (crying and throwing up) - The Official Solas Thread [Spoilers]

Exactly, that is what I was saying on the other thread. Varric saying that he wanted, past tense, to tear down the Veil could be a hint to us by the writers that we jumped to the wrong conclusion from his words in Trespasser. He wants to save the elves by restoring what they lost but his method for achieving it has changed. Now he admitted to Charter that it involves a ritual that had already started when he spoke to us in Trespasser. His story that he told as the Bard suggested that he needs to idol to complete it but, since he allowed Charter to walk away from the meeting, I think that might be deliberate misdirection on his part. He is interested in the idol certainly but not for the reason given.

I was just thinking... if Lavellan either moves to Kirkwall or stops by for a visit, s/he probably will meet Merrill and Aveline. The rest of Hawke's crew not so much, since they're long gone.

Anyhow, it is very likely to happen at some point. How do you guys think that would go?

My male Lavellan met with Merrill and they got along fine. He even suggested she could join up with his clan if she ever grew tired of Kirkwall and they went to the next Arlathvhen together. He does not have a lot to do with Aveline as he is not involved with the running of Kirkwall but they get along just fine when they do meet up.

As for my female Lavellan, she is an emotional wreck. She lost her clan and then came the revelations about Solas. So, she finds Merrill a good shoulder to cry on when she is having a bad day. As she is a mage, they can discuss magical theory and what it was like to be the Keeper's First. Aveline has been sympathetic too as she knows about loss personally.

I haven't discounted the possibility that Inquisitors will show up in DA:D in some way. Hopefully as a playable character in a scene or two, though I know they will not be our main protagonists. Anyway, it's still possible we'll learn something more of our Inquisitors, including Lavellans who romanced Solas.

What s/he is gonna do when the egg chase is over, of course.

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Well, considering that Romeo and Juliet now has to come with a trigger warning, it is unlikely in the current climate. However, when I played the original Planescape: Torment, threatening to kill myself (my soul) permanently was one of the ways of forcing the hand of the antagonist into doing what I wanted and even going through with it in the end if I wanted to avoid the fate of eternal damnation. Of course, that was a different era in terms of what was considered allowable in RPGs.    However, essentially that is what we do in DAO as a Grey Warden, if we refuse Morrigan's offer and take out the Arch-demon.    It is just that the "suicide" took the form of heroic sacrifice.   It was also unclear from the variation in explanation of what happens whether it just resulted in loss of your life or annihilation of your soul.   In Thedas it is now clear the former can be anything but permanent but the latter would be the end of your existence.

I don't understand the idea that Lavellan is completely in shambles after two years since Solas left her. I mean around the time of Trespasser.

Think about it. Solas didn't die (nor does she have any reason to think he did) and neither did he betray her (as far as she knows).

Way I figure it, two years is enough time to get over a break up, especially considering that they parted ways amicably. If it takes longer, she likely has deeper issues than need to be dealt with.

Not that I'm saying she shouldn't continue to love him or miss him.

It really depends on how you roleplay your Lavellan. I played my characters as a naiive, idealistic 15 year old girl (so she was like 19 by the end of Trespassers). She was thrust into a position of power of unfamiliar peoples and found comfort in Solas as the wise old hahren; crushed hard on all his ancient elven facts (since she ate up the elfyvenii glory propaganda as a kid) and ended up having her heart broken by the very first person she fell in love with. Learned that her peoples faith and mythos is a revisionist view of her peoples history and that her once and only lover was one of the few ancients to uphold the virtues her own people had ingrained in her (freedom, autonomy, etc) You can't just throw that egg head away if you believe if the fifth element power of love. But if you were playing some older woman who had her own children and multiple former lovers, it would be easy to just forget him as some ex who finally went off the deep end after one too many hits of acid.

I've just been playing DA2 again, and I really like the talk with Aveline about how it's up to the person dealing with loss/grief to decide when they are ready to move on. I think this same concept applies to Solavellan and the two year break. Everyone can play their Lavellan however they want--maybe they move on, maybe they don't. Both are valid. I think it's understandable for there to be confusion and worry over Solas after he says cryptic stuff and disappears after Corypheus, so Lavellans still waiting and pining until Trespasser isn't that far fetched IMO. Lavellan can also tell Solas she has moved on in Trespasser if she wishes.

As for my Lavellan, she's demisexual and doesn't have any interest in finding a new partner after Solas leaves. She can live her life and stay busy without needing a romantic relationship. Finding it with Solas was an unexpected miracle to her and she isn't interested in settling for anything less. Post-Trespasser, I don't even think she believes they will have a happy ending, but she's going to try to save him and the world regardless.

With mine, she wasn't a complete shambles immediately before Trespasser but was in a pretty bad state straight after it. Back when Solas originally broke up with her she was mostly confused. Before the defeat of Corypheus she thought that perhaps he felt their relationship was a distraction to the job at hand. He had seemed to have promised to tell her more once they had; she didn't imagine that she would have to wait for two years though. She was hurt that he went off straight after the battle and it did take the shine off the subsequent celebrations, particularly when Leliana revealed that the village Solas claimed to have come from had been unoccupied for years, which was the first intimation he could have been less than honest with her. I thought the balcony scene was very sad with her standing there alone and that is pretty much how it was for her the next two years. It didn't help that her BFF Dorian disappeared off back to Tevinter too. Still, she did have some other members of the team for company. It must have been noticeable the effect it had had on her though because even Vivienne asked her how she was coping in Trespasser, so those close to her knew she hadn't "moved on". As others have said, if Solas was her first love, which he was, it is going to have a profound impact. Also, I'm sure I read somewhere that the Dalish mate for life, or may be I just assumed it based off the story about our Warden's parents. Their mother pinned away after the death of her husband even though she had a child to care for who needed her. So, I don't think it was unreasonable that Lavellan was still waiting for Solas to come back to her and convinced that eventually he would.

Standing on the outside it is far easier to question her devotion. From that PoV, I always questioned Solas' timing in breaking up with her. Yes, it could help her focus on Corypheus but it could just as easily unsettled her equilibrium so she was less effective, particularly because he implied that there was more too it when he promised to tell her more. Of course, we know now that he was planning on recovering his orb. Had it not shattered, presumably he would have immediately embarked on his original plan. Thus, the break up was purely for the sake of his state of mind. He needed to distance himself from her so he could maintain his resolve to carry through with it. PW explained this. Solas would have abandoned his plan if he had told her the whole story back then and seriously considered doing so, but ultimately he felt he could not be true to himself if he didn't carry through with it, so broke up with her instead. By the time he caught up with her at the end of Trespasser, his ritual for Plan B was already underway, so he felt more able to reveal the truth without it compromising his resolve. It is why I find it hard to see how he can be "redeemed" at this point and Lavellan is deluded to think she can "change his heart" and deflect him from his course.

Deep down I think my Lavellan knows this, which is why it hit her so hard. Seeing Solas brought back all her old feelings for him but in the end he rejected her for his plan a second time and this time she knows the consequences of his decision, which are no longer hers to suffer alone. Now the two wolves are warring within her psyche: the gentle wolf that still loves him and wants to save him; the savage wolf that would gladly tear him to pieces in defense of her people. It remains to be seen which wolf wins.