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Post by ladyiolanthe on Oct 2, 2016 15:31:15 GMT
You'll be waiting for a while, I think. But in the words of Mike Laidlaw "They haven't fired me yet." So it's being worked on, at least a little.
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Post by QuizzyBunny on Oct 2, 2016 16:09:18 GMT
Here you go! She sort of inspired me to go with a sort of mystic-ish profile, I hope it's not too OOC or anything/still looks like her haha (also aaaa thank you for the compliment ;____;) oh and feel free to post it wherever with a credit~ (my tumblr url is thunderbirdhouse) I enjoyed doing this one! Is it too late to offer my own Inquisitor? Because I can safely say I'm the worst artist here in this thread, so I feel you should all pity me! *tries bribing with bunny-gif*
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Here you go! She sort of inspired me to go with a sort of mystic-ish profile, I hope it's not too OOC or anything/still looks like her haha (also aaaa thank you for the compliment ;____;) oh and feel free to post it wherever with a credit~ (my tumblr url is thunderbirdhouse) I enjoyed doing this one! Is it too late to offer my own Inquisitor? Because I can safely say I'm the worst artist here in this thread, so I feel you should all pity me! *tries bribing with bunny-gif* We can draw stick figures together!
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Today I have noticed that some people have Prime posts. What does that mean?
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Users post count from ye olde BSN. Can add it by editing your profile.
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Here you go! She sort of inspired me to go with a sort of mystic-ish profile, I hope it's not too OOC or anything/still looks like her haha (also aaaa thank you for the compliment ;____;) oh and feel free to post it wherever with a credit~ (my tumblr url is thunderbirdhouse) I enjoyed doing this one! Is it too late to offer my own Inquisitor? Because I can safely say I'm the worst artist here in this thread, so I feel you should all pity me! *tries bribing with bunny-gif* Ah hell, why not. Color, personality, refs? c: I see your bun and I raise you my own!
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Post by phoray on Oct 2, 2016 17:44:50 GMT
I found more nightmare fuel. What is this? It took me more than ten seconds to see Blackwall. First I just saw a wall of eyes. Then I saw Solas face in some odd pattern I couldn't make out....oh, there it is.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2016 21:56:41 GMT
I do not believe anyone has mentioned it before so I will throw it out there and let the speculation run rampant. So we know agents of Fen'Harel allow Venatori to have his sphere but we are never given how and/or when. The Black Emporium has a Codex entry about the Screaming Box that is interesting. In it a man is left for dead in the Silent Plains (part of Tevinter Imperium) and miraculously meets an unknown man in the wastes when he believes he will die. In exchange for water, the unnamed man tells him he must take three items. A crystalline shard, a bronze sphere, and an iron-bound box. He does and after being pointed in the direction of the Imperial Highway, leaves the man. Now through different means, he barters away the shard and sphere for travel and a place to stay. Questionable sphere is now in Perivantium (Tevinter city) and he only keeps the box until he tries to open it and hears screams come from it before bartering it away as well. Now I wonder if this is a clue to how Solas' orb was first brought out of its hiding place. And if it is, what are the other two items and why would Solas want these things in Tevinter (or at least floating around in the world now)? The box sounds like there could potentially be something sealed inside and the glowing shard is anyone's guess. However Solas doesn't do anything without a specific purpose in mind so it stands to reason that it furthers his plans in some way or are pieces to be utilized as contingencies.
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Post by ellawyn on Oct 2, 2016 22:20:59 GMT
I do not believe anyone has mentioned it before so I will throw it out there and let the speculation run rampant. So we know agents of Fen'Harel allow Venatori to have his sphere but we are never given how and/or when. The Black Emporium has a Codex entry about the Screaming Box that is interesting. In it a man is left for dead in the Silent Plains (part of Tevinter Imperium) and miraculously meets an unknown man in the wastes when he believes he will die. In exchange for water, the unnamed man tells him he must take three items. A crystalline shard, a bronze sphere, and an iron-bound box. He does and after being pointed in the direction of the Imperial Highway, leaves the man. Now through different means, he barters away the shard and sphere for travel and a place to stay. Questionable sphere is now in Perivantium (Tevinter city) and he only keeps the box until he tries to open it and hears screams come from it before bartering it away as well. Now I wonder if this is a clue to how Solas' orb was first brought out of its hiding place. And if it is, what are the other two items and why would Solas want these things in Tevinter (or at least floating around in the world now)? The box sounds like there could potentially be something sealed inside and the glowing shard is anyone's guess. However Solas doesn't do anything without a specific purpose in mind so it stands to reason that it furthers his plans in some way or are pieces to be utilized as contingencies. Hmm. Taken literally, that would mean Solas instructed his follower to toss these ancient, irreplaceable artifacts at some random stranger and hope that they end up in the hands of a Magister somehow. I mean, maybe it's a half truth? That's not impossible, but I still don't see any connection to Solas beyond a sphere made of bronze. Although the crystal could easily be a shard for the Solasan Temple (Which, given that it's the Solasan Temple and appears to have shadowy lore connections, probably links back to Solas somehow). But that still begs the question of why he's choosing such a roundabout and error-prone method of delivery, and what the box is all about. To me, it doesn't seem like enough for a real connection. Although I am curious as to how exactly Solas gave the orb to Cory. Or how he even know Cory was a thing, really. I dunno. I really could use a better explanation on how that all went down. Counter question, though - what are the running theories on why Solas woke up/how he got to Cory/his general whereabouts prior to the Breach? I'm aware of the codex in the Emergent Compendium, but it's vague to the point of near meaninglessness (Especially since the games have not noted any recent eclipses.) and I feel like Flemeth needing to get to Sundermount because she had "an appointment to keep," plus all the weirdo stuff going down with Sundermount in general (Ancient elfy magic, random Grey Warden artifacts, documented Warden activity in the area.), would imply that Solas was sleeping there and she went to wake him up, and he proceeded to somehow lure the Wardens working for Corypheus there and have them take the Orb.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2016 22:36:52 GMT
Hmm. Taken literally, that would mean Solas instructed his follower to toss these ancient, irreplaceable artifacts at some random stranger and hope that they end up in the hands of a Magister somehow. I mean, maybe it's a half truth? That's not impossible, but I still don't see any connection to Solas beyond a sphere made of bronze. Although the crystal could easily be a shard for the Solasan Temple (Which, given that it's the Solasan Temple and appears to have shadowy lore connections, probably links back to Solas somehow). But that still begs the question of why he's choosing such a roundabout and error-prone method of delivery, and what the box is all about. To me, it doesn't seem like enough for a real connection. Although I am curious as to how exactly Solas gave the orb to Cory. Or how he even know Cory was a thing, really. I dunno. I really could use a better explanation on how that all went down. Counter question, though - what are the running theories on why Solas woke up/how he got to Cory/his general whereabouts prior to the Breach? I'm aware of the codex in the Emergent Compendium, but it's vague to the point of near meaninglessness (Especially since the games have not noted any recent eclipses.) and I feel like Flemeth needing to get to Sundermount because she had "an appointment to keep," plus all the weirdo stuff going down with Sundermount in general (Ancient elfy magic, random Grey Warden artifacts, documented Warden activity in the area.), would imply that Solas was sleeping there and she went to wake him up, and he proceeded to somehow lure the Wardens working for Corypheus there and have them take the Orb. Oh I agree on that, it was more of an observation on how very suspicious the Codex is and the items therein. It would be more of a getting these irreplaceable artifacts out in the open and possibly in the land they need to be in order for them to be useful to his plans. Who's to say that someone with strong magical senses can't perceive the sudden emergence and proximity of a powerful artifact? Thus attracting the needed/wanted attention. I don't know if I would say Sundermount as Solas' resting place, it seemed more along the lines of an area that was prime for magical shenanigans and/or rituals. The 'appointment to keep' could play into that. It was X day of the Y year so Z conditions were met. *sigh* this is why more straightforward/not muddled codexes would be nice in DA4. Explain some shit to us Bioware!!!
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Post by QuizzyBunny on Oct 2, 2016 22:54:13 GMT
Thank you sugarquill! Can't believe you work that fast, I doubt I could draw a stick-figure in that time! God, it's 1 am and I'm supposed to be up early for a lecture in statistics tomorrow... does anyone have extra hours to sell? I will leave you with a little piece of Solas: By yogurtdollart
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Post by Elessara on Oct 2, 2016 23:21:52 GMT
I do not believe anyone has mentioned it before so I will throw it out there and let the speculation run rampant. So we know agents of Fen'Harel allow Venatori to have his sphere but we are never given how and/or when. The Black Emporium has a Codex entry about the Screaming Box that is interesting. In it a man is left for dead in the Silent Plains (part of Tevinter Imperium) and miraculously meets an unknown man in the wastes when he believes he will die. In exchange for water, the unnamed man tells him he must take three items. A crystalline shard, a bronze sphere, and an iron-bound box. He does and after being pointed in the direction of the Imperial Highway, leaves the man. Now through different means, he barters away the shard and sphere for travel and a place to stay. Questionable sphere is now in Perivantium (Tevinter city) and he only keeps the box until he tries to open it and hears screams come from it before bartering it away as well. Now I wonder if this is a clue to how Solas' orb was first brought out of its hiding place. And if it is, what are the other two items and why would Solas want these things in Tevinter (or at least floating around in the world now)? The box sounds like there could potentially be something sealed inside and the glowing shard is anyone's guess. However Solas doesn't do anything without a specific purpose in mind so it stands to reason that it furthers his plans in some way or are pieces to be utilized as contingencies. Hmm. Taken literally, that would mean Solas instructed his follower to toss these ancient, irreplaceable artifacts at some random stranger and hope that they end up in the hands of a Magister somehow. I mean, maybe it's a half truth? That's not impossible, but I still don't see any connection to Solas beyond a sphere made of bronze. Although the crystal could easily be a shard for the Solasan Temple (Which, given that it's the Solasan Temple and appears to have shadowy lore connections, probably links back to Solas somehow). But that still begs the question of why he's choosing such a roundabout and error-prone method of delivery, and what the box is all about. To me, it doesn't seem like enough for a real connection. Although I am curious as to how exactly Solas gave the orb to Cory. Or how he even know Cory was a thing, really. I dunno. I really could use a better explanation on how that all went down. Counter question, though - what are the running theories on why Solas woke up/how he got to Cory/his general whereabouts prior to the Breach? I'm aware of the codex in the Emergent Compendium, but it's vague to the point of near meaninglessness (Especially since the games have not noted any recent eclipses.) and I feel like Flemeth needing to get to Sundermount because she had "an appointment to keep," plus all the weirdo stuff going down with Sundermount in general (Ancient elfy magic, random Grey Warden artifacts, documented Warden activity in the area.), would imply that Solas was sleeping there and she went to wake him up, and he proceeded to somehow lure the Wardens working for Corypheus there and have them take the Orb. I honestly don't think that Flemeth had Hawke take the amulet to Sundermount because Flemeth had an appointment to keep at Sundermount. For one, Flemeth herself says that she half expected the amulet to end up with some random merchant. Giving the amulet to Hawke was just as roundabout and error-prone as giving those three artifacts to a some stranger. Flemeth also says that the amulet was just "a bit of security in case the inevitable occurred", as in she may not have actually needed the amulet but just in case. And then Flemeth says she *had* an appointment to keep, which to me means she couldn't go to the Free Marches directly because of the appointment (and she didn't want to be followed) not that the appointment was in the Free Marches. It's entirely possible that Solas was asleep on Sundermount but ... I don't know. And Solas seems to have not known quite a bit about Corypheus so I'm not sure he'd have known about any links between Cory and the Wardens. I think it's just as likely that, as Cory already had the Venatori ransacking elven ruins, Solas had his agents place the orb in a ruin and lead the Venatori there.
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Post by ellawyn on Oct 3, 2016 1:02:21 GMT
Hmm. Taken literally, that would mean Solas instructed his follower to toss these ancient, irreplaceable artifacts at some random stranger and hope that they end up in the hands of a Magister somehow. I mean, maybe it's a half truth? That's not impossible, but I still don't see any connection to Solas beyond a sphere made of bronze. Although the crystal could easily be a shard for the Solasan Temple (Which, given that it's the Solasan Temple and appears to have shadowy lore connections, probably links back to Solas somehow). But that still begs the question of why he's choosing such a roundabout and error-prone method of delivery, and what the box is all about. To me, it doesn't seem like enough for a real connection. Although I am curious as to how exactly Solas gave the orb to Cory. Or how he even know Cory was a thing, really. I dunno. I really could use a better explanation on how that all went down. Counter question, though - what are the running theories on why Solas woke up/how he got to Cory/his general whereabouts prior to the Breach? I'm aware of the codex in the Emergent Compendium, but it's vague to the point of near meaninglessness (Especially since the games have not noted any recent eclipses.) and I feel like Flemeth needing to get to Sundermount because she had "an appointment to keep," plus all the weirdo stuff going down with Sundermount in general (Ancient elfy magic, random Grey Warden artifacts, documented Warden activity in the area.), would imply that Solas was sleeping there and she went to wake him up, and he proceeded to somehow lure the Wardens working for Corypheus there and have them take the Orb. I honestly don't think that Flemeth had Hawke take the amulet to Sundermount because Flemeth had an appointment to keep at Sundermount. For one, Flemeth herself says that she half expected the amulet to end up with some random merchant. Giving the amulet to Hawke was just as roundabout and error-prone as giving those three artifacts to a some stranger. Flemeth also says that the amulet was just "a bit of security in case the inevitable occurred", as in she may not have actually needed the amulet but just in case. And then Flemeth says she *had* an appointment to keep, which to me means she couldn't go to the Free Marches directly because of the appointment (and she didn't want to be followed) not that the appointment was in the Free Marches. It's entirely possible that Solas was asleep on Sundermount but ... I don't know. And Solas seems to have not known quite a bit about Corypheus so I'm not sure he'd have known about any links between Cory and the Wardens. I think it's just as likely that, as Cory already had the Venatori ransacking elven ruins, Solas had his agents place the orb in a ruin and lead the Venatori there. You have a point on Flemeth's "appointment" possibly being with someone else (Probably the Warden and Alistair, or the Warden and Morrigan if the game assumes you did her personal quest.) - but as you pointed out, she didn't really need the amulet. It was a precaution - a contingency in case her other ways of reaching Sundermount failed. I mean, the woman can turn into a dragon, and probably knows of some working eluvians besides. She didn't really need Hawke to be her chauffeur - she probably could've reached Kirkwall easily on her own. The amulet was simply a failsafe - a pretty terrible one, but it's also probably one of many soul jars Flemeth has stashed places. It's great that it worked, but Flemeth didn't need it to. She probably had Plans B through Z ready to go if any number of things happened to her amulet. And Solas didn't need to know that the Wardens' are working for Corypheus. He only needed to know about Corypheus in general, and try to lure him in. Cory then sent the Wardens' in his place to retrieve it - if that's what happened. Either way, Solas didn't have to know of their involvement. And remember, the Venatori aren't open about their connection to Corypheus either. They don't even seem to be well-known outside of Tevinter. Solas was just as unlikely to know about them, or their subservience to Cory. On the subject of Sundermount in general - to me, it was too suspicious and too, hmm... center-stage, let's say, to just be a bit of spooky geography. I believe I said in the old thread that, prior to Inquisition, I assumed it was an Old God prison (It would explain both the Wardens' and Flemeth's interest, although it wouldn't explain why it's riddled with ancient elven stuff like Varterrals.) That still might be true. I know Skyhold's another popular candidate for where Solas slept, but given that it was apparently razed and rebuilt several times over, I'm not sure that's likely. (I know people posit the huge hole in the prison as evidence of a secret chamber that Solas was in and then escaped from, but that doesn't explain where Solas got the power for such an explosion, and besides, the codex entry implies that said hole is an age old, while Solas has only been running around for a year.). To me, then, Sundermount becomes the best option, given the above reasons, and given how the plot drew attention to it without giving it's mystery any resolution. I suppose Solasan might be possible as well, but the only evidence I see for that is process of elimination. Besides those three, I can't think any currently known locations where Solas might have been.
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Post by Elessara on Oct 3, 2016 1:11:37 GMT
I honestly don't think that Flemeth had Hawke take the amulet to Sundermount because Flemeth had an appointment to keep at Sundermount. For one, Flemeth herself says that she half expected the amulet to end up with some random merchant. Giving the amulet to Hawke was just as roundabout and error-prone as giving those three artifacts to a some stranger. Flemeth also says that the amulet was just "a bit of security in case the inevitable occurred", as in she may not have actually needed the amulet but just in case. And then Flemeth says she *had* an appointment to keep, which to me means she couldn't go to the Free Marches directly because of the appointment (and she didn't want to be followed) not that the appointment was in the Free Marches. It's entirely possible that Solas was asleep on Sundermount but ... I don't know. And Solas seems to have not known quite a bit about Corypheus so I'm not sure he'd have known about any links between Cory and the Wardens. I think it's just as likely that, as Cory already had the Venatori ransacking elven ruins, Solas had his agents place the orb in a ruin and lead the Venatori there. <snip> On the subject of Sundermount in general - to me, it was too suspicious and too, hmm... center-stage, let's say, to just be a bit of spooky geography. I believe I said in the old thread that, prior to Inquisition, I assumed it was an Old God prison (It would explain both the Wardens' and Flemeth's interest, although it wouldn't explain why it's riddled with ancient elven stuff like Varterrals.) That still might be true. I know Skyhold's another popular candidate for where Solas slept, but given that it was apparently razed and rebuilt several times over, I'm not sure that's likely. (I know people posit the huge hole in the prison as evidence of a secret chamber that Solas was in and then escaped from, but that doesn't explain where Solas got the power for such an explosion, and besides, the codex entry implies that said hole is an age old, while Solas has only been running around for a year.). To me, then, Sundermount becomes the best option, given the above reasons, and given how the plot drew attention to it without giving it's mystery any resolution. I suppose Solasan might be possible as well, but the only evidence I see for that is process of elimination. Besides those three, I can't think any currently known locations where Solas might have been. The Wardens seem to know where the Old God prisons are - at least the most senior ones. Would they really have imprisoned Cory that close to one? His prison was in the Vimmark Mountains as well.
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Post by ellawyn on Oct 3, 2016 2:08:50 GMT
The Wardens seem to know where the Old God prisons are - at least the most senior ones. Would they really have imprisoned Cory that close to one? His prison was in the Vimmark Mountains as well. I dunno. When I first came up with the theory, Legacy hadn't been released yet. (And by the time it had released, I was totally disinterested in DA2) So obviously Corypheus wasn't really a point of consideration at that time.
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Post by Elessara on Oct 3, 2016 2:21:17 GMT
What if Solas was asleep in a Crossroads-like pocket dimension? I mean wouldn't that be the "safest" place? As in, least likely to be randomly stumbled upon by anyone.
Oh for the- ToP again?!
<insert another Solas pic here>
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Post by ellawyn on Oct 3, 2016 2:59:38 GMT
What if Solas was asleep in a Crossroads-like pocket dimension? I mean wouldn't that be the "safest" place? As in, least likely to be randomly stumbled upon by anyone. Oh for the- ToP again?! <insert another Solas pic here> Maybe? It's certainly the most secure option, but it raises the danger of the eluvian leading there being destroyed, or the pocket realm being torn apart like the Crossroads were - although, obviously Solas wouldn't have known that would be a concern. But we also have to wonder if Solas was even worried about people stumbling on him. Remember, he didn't know the Veil would destroy Elvhenan. He might not have known how long he'd be asleep, but given how long-lasting and slow-to-change Elvhenan seems, he probably went to sleep expecting to wake up one day and finding that things would be - if not the same, at least recognizably similar. He was probably asleep for about two thousand years - which sounds like a lot, until you remember that Arlathan alone is 8,000 years old. While still nothing to brush aside, I don't think an ancient elf would have expected things to have become so different in that time, especially since the very laws of physics up and changed in the mean time. Comparing Solas to a time traveler is a bit of a lacking comparison, I think - it's less like he woke up in an alternate timeline and more like he woke up in an alternate universe. So it makes sense for us, on this side of the gap, it go "Well he had to have taken precautions - otherwise someone might have found him/stolen his stuff/killed him in his sleep." But Solas might not have even considered that possibility. He didn't think people would forget how to go into Uthanera - would forget what Uthanera even is. He didn't think people would erase their own history and forget all about his struggle. He didn't think things would change so much. Because if it were still Elvhenan, if there were no Veil, things probably wouldn't have. So, I'm not sure Solas would've put security very high on his list. I suppose it's not impossible that he had followers who, once seeing the way things were going, decided that Fen'Harel needed to be rest somewhere safe - they might have looked into more inaccessible locations, and moved him there.
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Post by ladyiolanthe on Oct 3, 2016 3:37:09 GMT
ellawyn Not that it matters for the sake of your argument, but Solas was asleep for somewhat more than 2000 years. It's closer to 4000 years. Elves first started noticing the quickening in -2850 Ancient, and Solas tells us he woke up "a year before joining" us, which places his awakening in 9:40 Dragon. That means there's a minimum of 3790 years that he spent sleeping. And if elves took a while to notice they were getting old/dying of old age, then he's been asleep even longer than that.
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Post by Elessara on Oct 3, 2016 3:37:38 GMT
What if Solas was asleep in a Crossroads-like pocket dimension? I mean wouldn't that be the "safest" place? As in, least likely to be randomly stumbled upon by anyone. Oh for the- ToP again?! <insert another Solas pic here> Maybe? It's certainly the most secure option, but it raises the danger of the eluvian leading there being destroyed, or the pocket realm being torn apart like the Crossroads were - although, obviously Solas wouldn't have known that would be a concern. But we also have to wonder if Solas was even worried about people stumbling on him. Remember, he didn't know the Veil would destroy Elvhenan. He might not have known how long he'd be asleep, but given how long-lasting and slow-to-change Elvhenan seems, he probably went to sleep expecting to wake up one day and finding that things would be - if not the same, at least recognizably similar. He was probably asleep for about two thousand years - which sounds like a lot, until you remember that Arlathan alone is 8,000 years old. While still nothing to brush aside, I don't think an ancient elf would have expected things to have become so different in that time, especially since the very laws of physics up and changed in the mean time. Comparing Solas to a time traveler is a bit of a lacking comparison, I think - it's less like he woke up in an alternate timeline and more like he woke up in an alternate universe. So it makes sense for us, on this side of the gap, it go "Well he had to have taken precautions - otherwise someone might have found him/stolen his stuff/killed him in his sleep." But Solas might not have even considered that possibility. He didn't think people would forget how to go into Uthanera - would forget what Uthanera even is. He didn't think people would erase their own history and forget all about his struggle. He didn't think things would change so much. Because if it were still Elvhenan, if there were no Veil, things probably wouldn't have. So, I'm not sure Solas would've put security very high on his list. I suppose it's not impossible that he had followers who, once seeing the way things were going, decided that Fen'Harel needed to be rest somewhere safe - they might have looked into more inaccessible locations, and moved him there. He did still have enemies though. The adherents of the Evanuris and possibly the followers of the Forgotten Ones. At least one of the elves trapped in the Vir Dirthara wanted to kill him - although I do still wonder how they figured out what had happened.
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Post by ellawyn on Oct 3, 2016 4:43:07 GMT
ellawyn Not that it matters for the sake of your argument, but Solas was asleep for somewhat more than 2000 years. It's closer to 4000 years. Elves first started noticing the quickening in -2850 Ancient, and Solas tells us he woke up "a year before joining" us, which places his awakening in 9:40 Dragon. That means there's a minimum of 3790 years that he spent sleeping. And if elves took a while to notice they were getting old/dying of old age, then he's been asleep even longer than that. Really? That would be a much more solid date of when Solas put up the Veil/went into Uthanera. I was running off the date Tevinter was founded, which obviously would be a lower estimate than it should, but as far as I knew, it was the only explicit date we had after Arlathan's founding. Where's it said that the Quickening started then? Lemme google this... Wuh - The wiki has a timeline! Why did no one tell me the wiki has a timeline? And according to said timeline, the elves didn't have contact with the dwarves until 3,000 years after Arlathan's founding - so does that mean the dwarves appeared somehow in that time? And humans were in Thedas a full three centuries before the Quickening started? Damn, the Brecilian Ruins make so much sense now. I always assumed they didn't come until after the Veil was put up. Well anyways - yes! So that means Solas was probably asleep for 4,000. Interesting! He did still have enemies though. The adherents of the Evanuris and possibly the followers of the Forgotten Ones. At least one of the elves trapped in the Vir Dirthara wanted to kill him - although I do still wonder how they figured out what had happened. He did have enemies - he had followers too, though, who could've watched out for him. Although, given Solas' demonstrated trust issues, he might not have put that much faith in them. Hmm... There's also the possibility that, in Ancient Elvhenan, a pocket dimension wasn't particularly safer than a hide-y hole in the physical world. It would depend on how easy they were to find and access. Do we have any information on that? I'm going to have replay Trespasser to get something on all this, aren't I? In the modern world, however, a pocket dimension would be so uncrackable that it might as well not exist. But, Solas wasn't planning for the modern world. His followers might've, if they were the ones who moved him, but by then they probably knew what the Veil had done to the various in-between worlds and figured somewhere in the physical world was safer. I just need more info on all this. Dammit, can't Weekes write a novel about Solas' misadventures in Elvhenan already.
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Post by forgetmenot on Oct 3, 2016 5:26:21 GMT
Irrelevant to current debate but just read a poem in Haven (right after you wake up after stabilising the breach) about Andraste and her Mabarri hound and how he guarded her "with loyalty and without pride". Reminded me of Mythal and her trusty Dread Wolf. Wouldn't it be hilarious if the very religion the Chantry is based on and so fiercely protects is nothing more than generations and generations of passed down tales, myths, misadventures and rumours of our favourite elf and the other Evuanris. Oh how I would laugh.
Love how after 4 play throughs, I'm still finding new stuff. Saying that, last play through i romanced Solas for the first time and then found out who he was and his goal in Trespasser so now I'm obsessed with elven lore so in my current Lavellan play through I'm devouring all codex entries I come across which before Solas i kinda skim read.
I'm already dreading Crestwood. Wish i could jump into the screen and mediate the whole thing. Tell Lavellan that her face is fine and that what Solas really wanted to tell her is that he's Fen'Harel and then smack Solas upside the head for being stupid. And then maybe squeeze his butt before jumping back through the screen. Now that would be an interesting codex entry.
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