The Blanketfort (crying and throwing up) - The Official Solas Thread [Spoilers]

Attacking character or motive of a person making the argument, rather than argument itself is called ad hominem. It may not have been intentional, but this is a technical term for what happened.

And it's not like my feelings were hurt, I was more surprised that all we're doing is exchanging views and suddenly I'm being called out. And it's entirely true that I like to argue things to death, lol. But it comes from the same place of starvation and wanting to discuss stuff on increasingly stale DA forum, now more than ever. If it was any other topic, I think you and I are here long enough to know that I'd jump to discussing it as well. I just don't like the fact that just because there's a mild disagreement between us, it's enough for some people to grow exasperated.

Didn't Gaider say at some point that technically Alistair and Anora could have a kid together? I didn't hear the same about Warden/Anora. Gotta be that special dragon blood

Either way, it's plausible in a state where Alistair/Anora are rulers or Anora is Queen for them to still produce a heir. They're young enough. 

Gaspard/Celene though? They are getting quite old, and that's aside from the issue of wanting it.

Dunno - either this means more conflicts/wars in the future... or it wouldn't matter in the end ;P Or they could just go the way of elective monarchy.

It's certainly possible for Anora and Alistair to have an heir.  They haven't yet though and Anora doesn't even like the idea of being a mother.  I recall reading that if the Warden talks to Loghain in Awakening (Loghain spared, married Anora) that Loghain says he mentioned needing an heir to Anora and she looked horrified.  If left to her own devices (ruling alone) she makes no attempt at it.  Likewise, if Alistair has ruled alone he also has not married nor made an attempt at fathering a child.  Also, on the old BSN back in the Alistair thread, I think David Gaider mentioned that it's possible by using magic that the Warden and Alistair could have a child although this was mostly stated for fanfic purposes and obviously with the Warden off doing whatever, they're not going to have a child.

Actually Anora is getting quite up there.  It's, what 9:42 Dragon at the end of Trespasser?  She was born before 9:10 so she's over 30.  Not sure exactly when she was born, all I could find was a mention that Loghain started taking her to court with him in 9:10 when she was a child, which is when she met Cailan and they became friends.  So she's at least mid 30s.

Gaspard might be getting up there in years but men can father children longer than women can bear children so he still has a chance.  You're right about Celene though.

I think you may be right though ... it'll end up not mattering whether the southern kingdoms have heirs or not heh.

Probably true. But I think it's possible we will get more stories that are insistent on making more or less subtle parallels to something or someone Seems to be the Bioware way, and very much Patrick Weekes way, hehehe. I also wonder if we're going to get things that will present past from limited point of view. Kinda like texts we read in Fen'Harel's sanctuary that Solas says were written by his desperate followers viewing him through rose-tinted glasses.

Not unless I'm missing something about how the timeline works (possible) or the Wiki is wrong about when he's born. The Wiki mentions the Exalted Council takes place in 9:44 and Gaspard was born in 8:74, which would mean he's 70 no?

Tea, Epler said he fought for Haven. It’s Haven.

Yea, neither he looks like it when people mod his mask off. Florianne also doesn't look like she's close to this age (she's a few years younger than Gaspard). She looks more like she's age of Celene and Celene is supposedly 40-ish.

That would be like asking, "You said this was in Haven, is it really in Haven?"

It's an entirely valid question, especially that *we know* that they keep re-using different locations to film their cinematics.

Would he?

I mean, does it really matter if the location for the initial scene with Inky and Justinia's ghost... is actually located on Haven map?

No, it's still filmed "in the Fade", just like the last scene is filmed "in Heaven". Filming 'on location' doesn't mean the action happens at specific location - it's even more true to games than it is to movies, because it's common to recycle assets. So unless Mr. Epler is specific that he means that in-universe, rather than filming location, we can't tell either way, other that they re-used that specific location for specific purpose.

From my perspective it happening in Haven dungeon is secondary to echoing the initial scene with camera direction - which was specifically Epler's domain.

I would argue that whilst the choice may be unnecessary it is not bizarre ... but I won't b/c honestly I'd just like this conversation to be over.  

Now we can move on to more important things like how the writers (or the people who make the game character models) mess up character ages and such.

Rich folk like Gaspard could easily get magical healing etc. that could prolong life by increasing overall health, I agree. And although my own father is 72, he can easily be mistaken for a man in his mid-late 50s. My sister and I inherited his prolonged youthful looks - I'm in my early 40s but people often are surprised by that. They say they would have guessed I'm in my late 20s. When my 36-yr-old sister was out shopping with our 73-yr-old mother earlier this year, someone commented it was nice to see a girl shopping with her grandmother (much to Mom's chagrin 😟 ).