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Post by gervaise21 on Dec 25, 2016 22:25:28 GMT
Well there seems some evidence that Andruil liked hunting primitive humans: "When Anduril grew tired of hunting mortal men and beasts...." Also some of the Alamarri/Avaar legends and gods bear similarities with elven deities, which might indicate they were familiar with them. For example, the Avaar Guardian of wisdom is Sigfrost, the Great Bear, and the bear is the sacred beast of Dirthamen, the elven god of secrets and knowledge; Rilla of the Fireside is the Avaar patron of children and babies, Sylaise the Heathkeeper fills the same role with the Dalish. The Avaar have a trickster god, Imhar, the elves have Fen'Harel. The Avaar home of the gods is Belanas, a mountain city in the Sky; the elven word for eternal is Belanaris and the "eternal" Golden City is said by the elves to be the home of their gods. Belanas was destroyed by a battle between Korth and a great serpent, which left a crater that was filled by the tears of the Lady of the Skies; according to Maryden, Arlathan now lies deep on the ocean floor (likely not destroyed by Tevinter but the earlier war of the gods and their followers or simply by the raising of the Veil). Or may be the Avaar were just familiar with Skyhold, up in the mountains and with old magic associated with it.
In DAO, if we play the Dalish Origin, we see evidence of human/elven co-existence in the ruin that we find. Then we see a similar thing when we visit the later ruin in the Brecilin Forest. I'm not sure but I think the spirit of the Arcane Warrior there even speaks of humans and elves fighting some great evil together.
Also both the Neromenians and the Alamaari/Avaar seem to know how to call a spirit into an animal, particularly a dragon. Did they acquire this knowledge from spirits of the Fade or did they learn it from elves? The fact that they associate gods with dragons would suggest they were familiar with the time "before the Veil when the dragons ruled the skies". The human folklore of Seheron also speaks of their great heroes of the past who "learned at the feet of elves".
What we don't yet know is where the humans originally came from and why? The Neromenians were seafarers and said to have first appeared in Par Vollen and the other northern islands in -3100 which was 250 years before the elves felt the Quickening, which suggests they arrived before the Veil but close enough in time that they could be associated with the loss of immortality. Some 600 years after the arrival of the first humans we have the first references to the Alamaari in the Frostback Mountains fleeing a Shadow Goddess, which Solas confirms with one of his Fade tales. So the humans do seem to have spread fairly quickly or alternatively the Alamaari came from a different source to the Neromenians.
My own personal theory is that not all elves entered uthenera after the Veil was raised. Likely many of those who remained in circulation were Fen'Harel's followers who were not welcome in the other elven enclaves. They interacted with the newly arrived humans, formed relationships and produced elf bloodied children, this being how magic entered the human race. Gradually all trace of the elven forebears died out, leaving the human race with magically gifted children but no trace of their origins.
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Post by ellawyn on Dec 25, 2016 23:39:10 GMT
Snow? Ha! Balmy 64 F (17.7 C) here. Whether you celebrate any holidays around this time or not, I hope everyone that posts in the Blanketfort has a good day. Here's Solas about to give a bitchy sigh. Christmas here in Texas is 75 F degrees. What even is winter. Happy Holidays I guess...
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Post by ladyiolanthe on Dec 27, 2016 4:53:13 GMT
So, I read through this twitter thread that Patrick Weekes liked, and now I'm thinking of the things Solas said in Trespasser, and I'm a little concerned. http://
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Post by midnight tea on Dec 27, 2016 5:13:04 GMT
So, I read through this twitter thread that Patrick Weekes liked, and now I'm thinking of the things Solas said in Trespasser, and I'm a little concerned. http:// Loool, was considering linking the whole thing but you've beat me to it.
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on Dec 27, 2016 5:15:49 GMT
So, I read through this twitter thread that Patrick Weekes liked, and now I'm thinking of the things Solas said in Trespasser, and I'm a little concerned. http:// Not sure if I should read...
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Post by gervaise21 on Dec 27, 2016 10:44:36 GMT
I had this sudden wild idea (it may have been thought of by someone before but I'm too lazy to check by reading all the posts both here and in archive). The Dalish believe that Fen'Harel could walk equally safely among both sets of gods. We know now that would not be the case with the Creators and from what Felassan says in his story in Masked Empire, the Forgotten Ones were pretty angry with him as well. However, the Dalish also teach that somehow he managed to trick both sets of gods into his trap. That seems likely to be true. Then Cole says that the wolf chewed off his leg to escape the trap.
I was reviewing how the Grey Warden Sashamiri was said to have entrapped Corypheus. She apparently used the corpse of Dumat and somehow her connection with his blood to create the spell that drew Corypheus on into the prison. I was also reminded that Flemeth comments about being in the amulet that "bodies are such limiting things" and questions why we think she can't be in two places at once.
So what if the bait to entrap the Evanuris (both sets of gods) was Fen'Harel himself? So he is now split between the two realities. Then when he drops the Veil, the two "selfs" will be reunited and that is how he intends to deal with the Evanuris, taking Mythal in there with him. He says he would not have you see what he becomes: the monster that is necessary to destroy the Evanuris. So even if the Inquisitor/PC were to destroy Solas in this reality, he will not actually be dead but his spirit will be freed of his mortal shell, losing any semblance of identity with this world in the process and thus the Dread Wolf (currently trapped with the other Evanuris) will rule. Thus, persuading him not to go ahead with his plan really will "redeem" Solas from this fate.
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Post by javeart on Dec 27, 2016 12:13:12 GMT
I had this sudden wild idea (it may have been thought of by someone before but I'm too lazy to check by reading all the posts both here and in archive). The Dalish believe that Fen'Harel could walk equally safely among both sets of gods. We know now that would not be the case with the Creators and from what Felassan says in his story in Masked Empire, the Forgotten Ones were pretty angry with him as well. However, the Dalish also teach that somehow he managed to trick both sets of gods into his trap. That seems likely to be true. Then Cole says that the wolf chewed off his leg to escape the trap. I was reviewing how the Grey Warden Sashamiri was said to have entrapped Corypheus. She apparently used the corpse of Dumat and somehow her connection with his blood to create the spell that drew Corypheus on into the prison. I was also reminded that Flemeth comments about being in the amulet that "bodies are such limiting things" and questions why we think she can't be in two places at once. So what if the bait to entrap the Evanuris (both sets of gods) was Fen'Harel himself? So he is now split between the two realities. Then when he drops the Veil, the two "selfs" will be reunited and that is how he intends to deal with the Evanuris, taking Mythal in there with him. He says he would not have you see what he becomes: the monster that is necessary to destroy the Evanuris. So even if the Inquisitor/PC were to destroy Solas in this reality, he will not actually be dead but his spirit will be freed of his mortal shell, losing any semblance of identity with this world in the process and thus the Dread Wolf (currently trapped with the other Evanuris) will rule. Thus, persuading him not to go ahead with his plan really will "redeem" Solas from this fate. I can easily see Solas using himself as bate, something along the lines of the story of TME with Andruil and Anaris, provoking them and then pitching them against each other, and escaping while they're busy. And I always thought that Solas cheweing his leg was only about what the creation of the veil meant to him, but it could definitely mean something more and I see no reason why he would not use the technique to "duplicate" himself too if he needed it. One question though, in what way would the reunion of the two selfs make him a monster? Or you didn't mean that? I ask this because sometimes (this part is more about my own doubts) I think that when he says that, he could actually be talking about more of a physical transformation, like becoming an actual monster and not a metaphorical one (don't want to think about it, but truth is that it would fit awfully well a typical end game boss fight ), so I'm curious about what possibilties would there be if that was the case. The only thing I could come up is that he might turn into a demon (in case the wisdom spirit theory is true and he can still be somehow turned against his purpose, but this doesn't seem likely) or an abomination (because maybe he has plans for summoning and blending with a powerful but corrupted spirit or something like that). Considering how much affected him seeing his friend turned into a demon, it would make sense if he didn't want us to see him become a real monster. I guesss that another possibilty is that he might have to corrupt himself with the blight, but considering how stupid he thinks the GW system is I imagine that wouldn't make much sense
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Post by gervaise21 on Dec 27, 2016 15:56:02 GMT
Well it could be that he is just talking metaphorically because of what he has to do in restoring the world of the elves. However, there does seem to be an element of the alter ego of the Dread Wolf, that persona he took on to inspire his followers and put fear in the hearts of his enemies. If some other part of himself is trapped with the Evanuris but still alive, then it likely will be in a pretty bad way mentally and in appearance looks like the dread wolf. The combination of the united Fen'Harel and Mythal in one body is likely to be pretty monstrous because of the power but also it likely will look like dark creature we see towering over him in his tarot card.
I was also reading what the spirit of the arcane warrior in DAO recalls of its time within the gem. You get a sense of imprisonment and loneliness. Then how it had slept, gone mad and then slept again. The mind is only tenuously present but it is begging to have an end to this existence trapped within the gem. Those feelings could in fact apply to any of the Evanuris but particularly Fen'Harel on both sides of the Veil. There is also that description of Andruil to consider when she hunted in the Void. It says she put on the armour of the Void and all forgot her true face. So it was not Andruil who forgot what she looked like but other people who were prevented from remembering. The same could be true of Fen'Harel; the Dread Wolf costume being effectively his "armour of the Void".
I also wonder if those elves of the Tirashan are not worshipers of the Forgotten Ones but an ancient enclave of Falon'Din. The offering up of their enemies to their god would fit with what Solas says about him making rivers of blood of those who would not worship him. I'm also struck by the ancient prayer of his followers that says he "mastered the dark that lies". Could that be a way of saying that he learned how to master the Void and the power that can be drawn from it? (Void magic = Blight magic?) In which case the true ally of the Forgotten Ones might not have been Fen'Harel at all but Falon'Din. He certainly would have a big grudge against Mythal for having bloodied him in his own Temple. He could still infiltrate the others because of his soul twin Dirthamen, who could act as his spy and he had clearly been challenging Elgar'nan at some point because of the battle between their champions, which Mythal suggested to avoid civil war. And because he is the master of lies, he could even have tricked Solas about who was responsible for Mythal's death, leading him to condemn all the Evanuris, instead of Falon'Din, who was in any case hiding out in the Void. To cap it all if he was the polar opposite to the friendly god of the dead that the Dalish remember him as, then instead of being the god of good fortune (as they believe) he was the god of misfortune. It could have been his doing that the modern elves remember Solas as the trickster god and god of misfortune instead of their liberator, because Falon'Din is the "master of the dark that lies".
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Post by javeart on Dec 27, 2016 16:47:37 GMT
I also wonder if those elves of the Tirashan are not worshipers of the Forgotten Ones but an ancient enclave of Falon'Din. The offering up of their enemies to their god would fit with what Solas says about him making rivers of blood of those who would not worship him. I'm also struck by the ancient prayer of his followers that says he "mastered the dark that lies". Could that be a way of saying that he learned how to master the Void and the power that can be drawn from it? (Void magic = Blight magic?) In which case the true ally of the Forgotten Ones might not have been Fen'Harel at all but Falon'Din. He certainly would have a big grudge against Mythal for having bloodied him in his own Temple. He could still infiltrate the others because of his soul twin Dirthamen, who could act as his spy and he had clearly been challenging Elgar'nan at some point because of the battle between their champions, which Mythal suggested to avoid civil war. And because he is the master of lies, he could even have tricked Solas about who was responsible for Mythal's death, leading him to condemn all the Evanuris, instead of Falon'Din, who was in any case hiding out in the Void. To cap it all if he was the polar opposite to the friendly god of the dead that the Dalish remember him as, then instead of being the god of good fortune (as they believe) he was the god of misfortune. It could have been his doing that the modern elves remember Solas as the trickster god and god of misfortune instead of their liberator, because Falon'Din is the "master of the dark that lies". That would be a interesting twist for sure I have to say though that I do see Solas as a bit of a trickster, and Felassan seems to encourage that image of him when he talks to Briala. But I can see some similarities with other evanuris in this regard (secrets, tricks, etc,) which is why I like the idea that not only Solas might have been a wisdom spirit, but maybe there were others among the evanuris, because if Mythal "used" one, maybe others did too. Lately I've been thinking maybe even Ghilan'nain My favourite theory for Mythal's betrayal in any case, is that Elgar'nan is the main culprit, though I can't say why or how, it's only because husbands betraying their wives seems to be a theme in the DA universe and I think it could have led Mythal to Flemeth
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Post by ellehaym on Dec 27, 2016 19:26:41 GMT
It does seem like the Forgotten Ones where thrown under the bus in order for Soals to seal the Evanuris away. Soals main beef was the (Evanuris) killed Mythal. I can see Solas spurring the Forgotten Ones to fight against the Evanuris and use that as a distraction for his ultimate goal. Kinda like how he pitted the Inquisitor vs the Qunari. I do find it interesting how we're seeing more mentions of the Forgotten Ones: Geldaurran's Claim and the staff of Anaris priest That said, I do think the the worship of the Forgotten One's is strong in the Tirashan, especially since they call out to gods they (humans) never heard before Lastly, I can't help but wonder if Elgar'nan isn't as powerful as we're all lead to believe? The fact that Falon'Din challenges him and also all the other "propaganda" of his strength makes it seem to me he was insecure (lol). That Mythal might have been even stronger?
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Post by ellawyn on Dec 27, 2016 19:41:54 GMT
I had this sudden wild idea (it may have been thought of by someone before but I'm too lazy to check by reading all the posts both here and in archive). The Dalish believe that Fen'Harel could walk equally safely among both sets of gods. We know now that would not be the case with the Creators and from what Felassan says in his story in Masked Empire, the Forgotten Ones were pretty angry with him as well. However, the Dalish also teach that somehow he managed to trick both sets of gods into his trap. That seems likely to be true. Then Cole says that the wolf chewed off his leg to escape the trap. I was reviewing how the Grey Warden Sashamiri was said to have entrapped Corypheus. She apparently used the corpse of Dumat and somehow her connection with his blood to create the spell that drew Corypheus on into the prison. I was also reminded that Flemeth comments about being in the amulet that "bodies are such limiting things" and questions why we think she can't be in two places at once. So what if the bait to entrap the Evanuris (both sets of gods) was Fen'Harel himself? So he is now split between the two realities. Then when he drops the Veil, the two "selfs" will be reunited and that is how he intends to deal with the Evanuris, taking Mythal in there with him. He says he would not have you see what he becomes: the monster that is necessary to destroy the Evanuris. So even if the Inquisitor/PC were to destroy Solas in this reality, he will not actually be dead but his spirit will be freed of his mortal shell, losing any semblance of identity with this world in the process and thus the Dread Wolf (currently trapped with the other Evanuris) will rule. Thus, persuading him not to go ahead with his plan really will "redeem" Solas from this fate. I can't recall the exact source, but I believe Dalish legend said that Fen'Harel tricked both the Evanuris and the Forgotten Ones into the Fade by telling both of them that he had secured a weapon they could use against the other side. I imagine said weapon was the Blight, but I obviously can't say for sure. Either way, I don't think it was the promise of Solas himself that lured them. While the Evanuris, and apparently the Forgotten Ones, all hated Fen'Harel, that doesn't mean they didn't see the potential of allying with him against the other. The enemy of my enemy, and all that. Besides, I don't think Dalish myth is straight up wrong, just... open to interpretation. I mean, what are the main thrusts of it? The Forgotten Ones existed, but we don't know a whole lot about them. That's true. The Evanuris existed, and also ruled over the people and brought them greatness. That's also true - it just leaves out the part where they were tyrants that enslaved the People and used them for their own power. Fen'Harel was once friends with both of them - we know that's true for the Evanuris, at least, since they went around slapping portraits of him in their temples. And Dalish myth says that Fen'Harel somehow tricked the Evanuris into the Fade and then put up the Veil to keep them there - and Trespasser confirmed all of that. The only part of Dalish myth that you could argue is totally false is the "Fen'Harel laughed madly about it for years, and then went on to antagonize the Dalish for kicks." But on the whole, Dalish myth has a good track record of being correct, it's just very bad at giving the whole dark and bloody story. It reads less like fairytales that people just made up and more like propaganda that survived the years - it accentuates the Evanuris good points, erases their flaws, and demonizes their enemies, but it generally refrains from making claims that wholly untrue. As such, I think its claim that Fen'Harel was somehow friends to both sets of gods is true, but perhaps simplified and idealized.
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Post by gervaise21 on Dec 27, 2016 20:18:07 GMT
He may have been viewed as a friend originally, probably while he was still serving as Mythal's bodyguard but they definitely did not view him as such at the end:
'The pages of the book, memory - warn of a terrible danger, a wolf with slavering black jaws and pits for eyes. The Evanuris - the elven gods - stand in a ring around it, as if preventing it from attacking. "Beware the forms of Fen'Harel. The Dread Wolf comes in humble guises, a wanderer who knows much of the people and their spirits. He will offer advice that seems fair, but turns slowly to poison....."'
This hardly seems the advice of people who would trust him to arrange a truce or go anywhere that he suggested. So this is where the folklore of the Dalish and the actual events seem to come apart. Fen'Harel certainly trapped them so they could neither return or, it would seem, contact their followers (although we can't be sure about the latter, only that they didn't contact the modern elves). The stories that Felassan tells may be just that, or simply allegorical, and in any case, if true, relate to an earlier time. By his own admission, Solas wanted his enemies to fear the Dread Wolf and it would seem the Evanuris wanted their followers to do so as well. So immediately before he entrapped them, I'd say he was definitely not their friend.
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Post by javeart on Dec 27, 2016 21:48:35 GMT
I think too that at the point where he was rallying slaves against the evanuris they couldn't be in good terms, but I can still imagine something like the dalish myth being close to truth, if the evanuris were warring not only against him but also against the Forbidden Ones, Solas could have played it like he was giving them valuable information in exchange for something else, maybe something like "I'm still going to try to free all the slaves, but [whatever the Forbidden Ones called themselves back them] are a bigger danger than you, so..." That kind of scenario has been used countless times in movies and books before... Playing bate also seems his style. I could see it go both ways, and from the point of view of his personality I don't think it makes big difference, no? Both options show them as schemer, a trickster, someone who fights more with witts than with strength ellehaym , I agree that Mythal seems to be more powerful than him, but I find it almost wierd, considering he must be the equivalent to zeus, how little his role seems to be in all the stories we know about the elven gods... But I think it could be just that his part is downplayed simply because he doesn't have a large role to play in the future... I wonder if we're going to meet all the evanuris at some point or only some of them, I'm inclined to think the latter
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If anyone is interested, a short solavellan video! (i thrive on tears i am so so sorry) (also spoilers! a lot of spoilers!)
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If anyone is interested, a short solavellan video! (i thrive on tears i am so so sorry) (also spoilers! a lot of spoilers!) I loved it! Very nice video
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If anyone is interested, a short solavellan video! (i thrive on tears i am so so sorry) (also spoilers! a lot of spoilers!) I loved it! Very nice video thank you so much!!
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Post by gervaise21 on Dec 28, 2016 15:05:26 GMT
Elgar'nan comes across to me as a sort of supreme ruler type who doesn't involve himself much with the day to day running of things. He wants the glory without the headaches involved with actually governing things. So Mythal is in charge much of the time with maintaining order and only refers matters to Elgar'nan on rare occasions she does not want to be the arbiter, like the sinner who took the form reserved for the gods. Elgar'nan does seem something of a hothead but possibly recognises it and so that is why he defers to Mythal on most matters. In fact it would seem that the gods generally look to Mythal to keep things under control. This seems to fit with the idea of her role being that of law giver and running a civilised society. Mythal is credited with creating the cities in the world of the elvhen, whereas Andruil is associated with the wilds and hunting, June with crafting marvellous wonders and Elgar'nan simply with light. (According to the followers of Sylaise).
The interesting thing about the conflict between the two champions of Elgar'nan and Falon'Din is that one is gold and the other black, corresponding with Elgar'nan as the god of light and Falon'Din as the god of death/darkness. In the conflict seen in the library, light triumphs over darkness. It was the clever words of Mythal that prevented the two gods from declaring war against each other but using champions instead. Clearly everything went to hell when Mythal was killed. I wonder what the argument was between Elgar'nan and Falon'Din; also why the gods turned against Mythal when clearly in the past they seemed to rely on her so much to maintain order. It wasn't just her own people she protected, on the whole the other gods seemed to look to her for protection as well. Yet she didn't try and stop Falon'Din until his actions actually affected her own people.
Considering that Mythal was meant to have created the cities, then the Golden City would have been her ultimate creation and the empty throne would be because Mythal had been murdered. If you go by the mosaic of the event (which is how I interpret the one with several different people surrounding the dragon), then Elgar'nan was likely responsible for her betrayal (dragon looking at him even though he is not seemingly involved) but there were other hands that actually struck her down - my money is on Falon'Din and Andruil (the two that were confined to the outer sanctum of her Temple). I wish Solas (or Abelas) had told us more.
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Post by close2myheart on Dec 28, 2016 15:48:35 GMT
OHO HO HO.. if Mythal is the Maker then I'd like to see the Andrastrian reaction to that, pls My Lavellan and Mahariel would probably be sitting together in the corner laughing. My best gues to why Mythal was murdered was probably because FenHarel sorta rocks the boat a little too much by giving freedom to the enslaved. In a world where Evanuris = Gods to be worship, he is certainly an oddball within the froup : FenHarel the 'Not God'. And of course people will flock to his banner and that certainly wouldn't sit well with Falon'Din and Elgar'nan most specifically. The question is why Mythal allows FenHarel to make such changes? Were they more than BFFs? Was it with Mythal and not Andruil that FenHarel spent 'a year and a day' with? Or maybe Mythal agrees with his POV, actually, but couldn't get the others to be in the same boat. And Solas is making changes faster before Mythal can deal with the other Evanuris with a diplomatic approach. Maybe they thought by killing Mythal, Solas will lose his greatest supporter and he will either desist or perish if they gang up on him. And boy they really REALLY got him wrong.. Solas : So you killed Mythal. Alright. Veil up, you're all grounded, no internet conection and no chatting with followers
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Post by javeart on Dec 28, 2016 15:56:52 GMT
gervaise21 Well, Solas said " they killed Mythal", so I imagine it was kind of a conspiration? I could see Andruil and Falon'Din wanting revenge, maybe they fooled Elgar'nan or Elgar'nan was just jealous of Mythal prominent role and they poisoned him against her? btw, what mosaic are we talking about? edit: close2myheart they sure ot him wrong I could see it being something like what you propose, Mythal could be somewaht protecting Solas, or at least not helping them fighting him, it makes sense
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Post by gervaise21 on Dec 28, 2016 19:03:12 GMT
The mosaic I'm referring to is the Archdemon. The dwarf interprets a lot of the mosaics as though they refer to Tevinter but admits that they seem to have been altered from something earlier. He comments with the Fall (I think) how there seems no way for the Magisters to get into the city, which makes sense if they entered through a portal they created and also the likelihood that the way in for everyone was via eluvians.
In the archdemon mosaic there are 7 figures surrounding the dragon, so of course it could be the 7 priests of the old gods, but equally it could be the 7 Evanuris surrounding Mythal in her dragon form.
Unfortunately, my computer has taken against the Wiki site (keeps telling me it is a security risk and then ignores me when I press to say its okay)so I can't check any further about this.
I don't think Fen'Harel's rebellion was the reason they turned against her but more likely she stopped them from doing something they all thought would give them even more power. I'm guessing the thing that was being buried by Fen'Harel's allies and also the fact that he says if he hadn't shut them away, they would have destroyed the world anyway. Of course his rebellion could have been part of her efforts in preventing this, so it was connected to events but not necessarily the catalyst for her death.
Further crazy idea but I was reading my notes on the fight between Andruil and Mythal and it says that Mythal's magic sapped Andruil's strength and stole her knowledge of how to find the Void. What if she sort of absorbed whatever it was that making Andruil crazy and neutralised it within her own being. So long as it was there, it could harm no one but when they killed her, it was released again and this is the origin of the taint/blight. Meanwhile Andruil got her memory back and so knew how to enter the Void again (I reckon that Falon'Din gave her the knowledge first time round), realised it was a source of great power, so they all charged off in pursuit of it and Solas shut the door.
I'm fairly convinced that the thing Mythal was trying to stop them getting was Blight/Void magic. I've just been replaying the beginning of DAO and I think Flemeth's desire to help stop the spread of the Blight is genuine. As Solas said, the Grey Wardens actions just buy everyone a bit more time without providing a proper solution. Time is running out.
As Morrigan said in the original 2013 Trailer: "None shall be untouched by the fires above. Faith lies in ashes. Fragile alliances crumble to dust, as this world is torn asunder. Darkness closes in. Will you stand against it or lead this world to its bitter end?" Nothing we have experienced thus far has been anything like that but it sounds very much what Solas was predicting when he dropped the Veil.
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