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Post by Rynnju on Jan 17, 2017 1:43:13 GMT
Right. It's been a while since I booted up the game and I don't remember posting this before, but I was going through my imgur uploads and re-discovered a piece of lost Elvhen lore. You know why the elves prefer to go barefoot? 'cause such finely painted toenails must be seen by all Yes, that is Solas walking off after a chat in the Inquisitor's chambers. Okay, I gotta admit something - I'll never understand what they did to Solas's feet. They look like they were broken in the middle and just healed wrong and have this strange shape that curves inwards bit too much; not to mention that it seems like someone's stomped on Solas's big toes and now they and toenails on it are all misshapen. That's not what healthy feet look like ! I'm pretty sure that's unintentional - just an effect of someone painting bare toenails on what was initially supposed to be a full shoe... but it still looks weird. Hence almost every time I to talk with him, and catch a glimpse of his bare toenails, instead of... I don't know, gushing about his butt or whatever... I keep wondering "you poor bastard, what have they done to your feet!?" Everyone's feet were terrible in DA2 also. And lord help you if you look at the characters' feet in DAI's Dalish armor. They did absolutely zero work to make that look decent and they're just misshapen lumps. BioWare please. I mean really, if you're going to create lore that makes a whole race barefoot all the time, you could at least do some design work to make it work.
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Post by midnight tea on Jan 17, 2017 1:48:49 GMT
Okay, I gotta admit something - I'll never understand what they did to Solas's feet. They look like they were broken in the middle and just healed wrong and have this strange shape that curves inwards bit too much; not to mention that it seems like someone's stomped on Solas's big toes and now they and toenails on it are all misshapen. That's not what healthy feet look like ! I'm pretty sure that's unintentional - just an effect of someone painting bare toenails on what was initially supposed to be a full shoe... but it still looks weird. Hence almost every time I to talk with him, and catch a glimpse of his bare toenails, instead of... I don't know, gushing about his butt or whatever... I keep wondering "you poor bastard, what have they done to your feet!?" Everyone's feet were terrible in DA2 also. And lord help you if you look at the characters' feet in DAI's Dalish armor. They did absolutely zero work to make that look decent and they're just misshapen lumps. BioWare please. I have to laugh at female Dalish feet too - they're not really misshapen, but they're short to the point that they look like child's feet, from certain angles at least I mean, unless elven females are supposed to have tiny feet.
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Post by Seven Zettabytes on Jan 17, 2017 1:57:48 GMT
Everyone's feet were terrible in DA2 also. And lord help you if you look at the characters' feet in DAI's Dalish armor. They did absolutely zero work to make that look decent and they're just misshapen lumps. BioWare please. I mean really, if you're going to create lore that makes a whole race barefoot all the time, you could at least do some design work to make it work. Perhaps once the everlasting struggle with hair is finally over. It's probably going to take some time. Edit: First post. So... here is concept Solas with hair? By Slugette.
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Post by midnight tea on Jan 17, 2017 2:03:54 GMT
Everyone's feet were terrible in DA2 also. And lord help you if you look at the characters' feet in DAI's Dalish armor. They did absolutely zero work to make that look decent and they're just misshapen lumps. BioWare please. I mean really, if you're going to create lore that makes a whole race barefoot all the time, you could at least do some design work to make it work. Perhaps once the everlasting struggle with hair is finally over. It's probably going to take some time. What I really do hope for DA4 is that they'll harness the Frostbite power in fullness - I don't really think that many people appreciate that DAI being the very first RPG on that engine meant many hurdles to overcome and their decision to stick to old gen consoles meant limiting themselves when it comes to some advanced features or high-polygon models used in game (... which is a probable big reason why we never saw decent hair). But now, with all their people being all schooled in the ways of Frostbite and fresh from all the experience of creating MEA/Secret IP, AND the fact that they can use assets and modules of all studios working under EA likely means that they can go a step further and actually take care of those graphic flubs
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Post by ladyiolanthe on Jan 17, 2017 2:17:21 GMT
Perhaps once the everlasting struggle with hair is finally over. It's probably going to take some time. What I really do hope for DA4 is that they'll harness the Frostbite power in fullness - I don't really think that many people appreciate that DAI being the very first RPG on that engine meant many hurdles to overcome and their decision to stick to old gen consoles meant limiting themselves when it comes to some advanced features or high-polygon models used in game (... which is a probable big reason why we never saw decent hair). But now, with all their people being all schooled in the ways of Frostbite and fresh from all the experience of creating MEA/Secret IP, AND the fact that hey can use assets and modules of all studios working under EA likely means that they can go a step further and actually take care of those graphic flubs AND their animators had some training with PIXAR recently. So, I'm wondering what cut scenes are going to look like in the future because of that!!!
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Post by Elessara on Jan 17, 2017 2:18:19 GMT
Perhaps once the everlasting struggle with hair is finally over. It's probably going to take some time. What I really do hope for DA4 is that they'll harness the Frostbite power in fullness - I don't really think that many people appreciate that DAI being the very first RPG on that engine meant many hurdles to overcome and their decision to stick to old gen consoles meant limiting themselves when it comes to some advanced features or high-polygon models used in game (... which is a probable big reason why we never saw decent hair). But now, with all their people being all schooled in the ways of Frostbite and fresh from all the experience of creating MEA/Secret IP, AND the fact that hey can use assets and modules of all studios working under EA likely means that they can go a step further and actually take care of those graphic flubs I know this isn't what you meant but as I read this I couldn't help but think ... *queue dramatic music* The final confrontation with Solas begins ... everyone gets ready to fight ... and then the Tempest from MEA flies overhead. Everyone looks up going, wtf?!
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Post by midnight tea on Jan 17, 2017 2:24:03 GMT
What I really do hope for DA4 is that they'll harness the Frostbite power in fullness - I don't really think that many people appreciate that DAI being the very first RPG on that engine meant many hurdles to overcome and their decision to stick to old gen consoles meant limiting themselves when it comes to some advanced features or high-polygon models used in game (... which is a probable big reason why we never saw decent hair). But now, with all their people being all schooled in the ways of Frostbite and fresh from all the experience of creating MEA/Secret IP, AND the fact that hey can use assets and modules of all studios working under EA likely means that they can go a step further and actually take care of those graphic flubs I know this isn't what you meant but as I read this I couldn't help but think ... *queue dramatic music* The final confrontation with Solas begins ... everyone gets ready to fight ... and then the Tempest from MEA flies overhead. Everyone looks up going, wtf?! Even better: Tempest lands on Solas's elaborate ritual site, Ryder pops out and is like "I think we're in the wrong neighborhood!" Something else to mention - I did laugh quite hard when I saw this screenshot: Those basalt columns look familiar... is that what's left from Thedas? Is that black stuff the Blight? I kinda wonder if this is an intentional easter egg, the same as mentioning "the inquisitive" in one of their trailers was.
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Post by close2myheart on Jan 17, 2017 6:56:36 GMT
I know this isn't what you meant but as I read this I couldn't help but think ... *queue dramatic music* The final confrontation with Solas begins ... everyone gets ready to fight ... and then the Tempest from MEA flies overhead. Everyone looks up going, wtf?! Even better: Tempest lands on Solas's elaborate ritual site, Ryder pops out and is like "I think we're in the wrong neighborhood!" Something else to mention - I did laugh quite hard when I saw this screenshot: Those basalt columns look familiar... is that what's left from Thedas? Is that black stuff the Blight? I kinda wonder if this is an intentional easter egg, the same as mentioning "the inquisitive" in one of their trailers was. Hahahaa.. before reading the post I clicked on the pic and first thought was, "What is that ME character doing in the Western Approach?" XD ... Wrong XD ... And if Ryder/company ever says the the word, "Swooping is bad.." in some random convo.. I'll probably slam my palms on the desk and LoLed.
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Post by gervaise21 on Jan 17, 2017 20:10:01 GMT
Well we did have that Krogan head among Gaspard's trophies. They sometimes like to drop these things in just so fans can recognise them. They even had some armour in Kingdoms of Amalur that I recall was attributed to Shepard (or was it Hawke?), which isn't even a Bioware game, but comes from the EA stable. May be it's their version of product placement.
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There's also a Mass Effect Easter egg in DA:O in the form of a codex entry. Load Limit Reached
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Post by Seven Zettabytes on Jan 17, 2017 21:01:09 GMT
What I really do hope for DA4 is that they'll harness the Frostbite power in fullness - I don't really think that many people appreciate that DAI being the very first RPG on that engine meant many hurdles to overcome and their decision to stick to old gen consoles meant limiting themselves when it comes to some advanced features or high-polygon models used in game (... which is a probable big reason why we never saw decent hair). But now, with all their people being all schooled in the ways of Frostbite and fresh from all the experience of creating MEA/Secret IP, AND the fact that they can use assets and modules of all studios working under EA likely means that they can go a step further and actually take care of those graphic flubs I agree. It'll be an interesting thing to see where they will go with DA's design now that they have so much new experience. I haven't seen much from Andromeda because I'm trying to avoid spoilers, but some things look beautifully realistic. The thing I loved most about the EA Play trailer was when someone (RyDad?) wearing N7 armor was walking through a desert, and it looked like the sand kind of stuck to their armor. It honestly makes me very excited and hopeful for DA4, including the hair. Didn't Mass Effect and Dragon Age take place in the same Universe? Hopefully one day Bioware will do a crossover DLC (well, probably not, but I'm going to hope for one anyway). The two main characters could switch places or something like that. It's too bad Hawke and Shepard's storylines are kind of done, I think they'd be good for it.
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Post by Natashina on Jan 17, 2017 21:18:47 GMT
Seven ZettabytesThe Mass Effect-Dragon Age connection is only speculation by fans. Nothing has ever been confirmed by the devs.
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Post by midnight tea on Jan 17, 2017 22:40:20 GMT
Seven Zettabytes The Mass Effect-Dragon Age connection is only speculation by fans. Nothing has ever been confirmed by the devs. I'm pretty sure there will be some humorous references or easter eggs that some people may take waaaay too seriously.
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Post by Natashina on Jan 17, 2017 23:08:24 GMT
Seven Zettabytes The Mass Effect-Dragon Age connection is only speculation by fans. Nothing has ever been confirmed by the devs. I'm pretty sure there will be some humorous references or easter eggs that some people may take waaaay too seriously. That's my feeling as well. I honestly don't think most people take it that seriously, but there is just enough that do. I thought the krogan trophy in DA:I was a shoutout to Patrick Weekes in particular. Given that he wrote a lot of stuff that revolved around the krogans (Tuchunka, Mordin Solus and some of Wrex,) it makes sense that it was there. I think this got started with ME2 and Kasumi's mission. The Ogre statue is only meant to be an easter egg, but folks got the idea that the world where Thedas lies is out there somewhere in the ME-verse. I don't agree, but I can understand the temptation of that theory.
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Post by ladyiolanthe on Jan 18, 2017 1:36:46 GMT
I just learned that one of my friends died yesterday. He was only in his thirties.
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I just learned that one of my friends died yesterday. He was only in his thirties. I'm very sorry for your loss. It's always difficult to lose someone.
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I just learned that one of my friends died yesterday. He was only in his thirties. I'm so sorry That's way too young /hug
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Post by NeverlandHunter on Jan 18, 2017 2:29:24 GMT
I don't mind it either. I always liked that they made you work for the ideal. It makes it feel more realistic and meaningful. In Solas' case, it would take A LOT to turn him from his path, for very obvious reasons. It shouldn't be easy in the slightest. And yes, I also meant that it would hinge on choices you've made in the past and that certain choices will bar you from the best outcome. While I agree with this in principle, I hope there will be some leeway so that one choice you made back in DAI doesn't ruin the chances of having a "happy" outcome with Solas. For example, putting Cassandra in as Divine rather than Leliana should not have an effect on whether you can convince Solas to change his plans in DA4 or DA5 or whenever the final showdown might be. I feel that if you had high approval for Solas at the end of DAI that should be a good basis for making it possible for you to get a "happy" outcome with Solas. Now, if you make counter-Solas choices in the game that has the final showdown (like, say, choosing to hunt down and kill his agents, or making a whole lot of mages Tranquil, or, or, or...) then that should definitely negatively impact your ability to have a "happy" ending. I completely agree with this! And I like the idea of capturing Agents of Fen'Harel, deciding their fates, and that in turn effecting how Solas sees your character. I have to say that I feel pretty "meh" about the idea that best ending should be hard to get... I mean, I guess it makes for a nice surprise if you get if right the first time, but after that, and particularly now that we have the keep, is just going to take looking up the forums and following the right steps... we're all going to be there by the second pt anyway. For me that kind of thing is a little like the clan Lavellan WT mission: if you got ir right the first time you probably didn't realize what a miracle that was; reloading and/or going through a guide doesn't make much to make you feel better once you get it right, you might be relieved but it doesn't feel really special; but, the first time you go get the "everyone is dead" message you really feel like shit, so all in all, I'm going to say it's not worthy But yes, if there's going to be a good ending, I'd not be surprised if it's tied to making some specific decision. In particular, I have always feared that it might be related to drinking or not from the well of sorrows, something like Morrigan/Mythal wants to kill Solas and if you drunk from the well you won't be able to stop her... I'm so afraid that things might be like that, that I always drink, but I'm seriously thinking about making my first pt in DA4 one where is Morrigan the one who drinks The Well choice might be impactful, but... if Solas does have Mythal after the end of the main game, then I'm not certain that it will matter... If he has control of her, it seems to follow that he has control of the Well. What if, in addition to needing her power to accomplish his goal, he has a secondary objective of freeing your Inquisitor from Mythal's influence? Not highly likely but it's something I have wondered about, at times. But if he has control of the Well, then it's implied that he has control over you. And that could be super creepy for a romanced Lavellan. ETA: Considering his thoughts on the right of freedom I hope he wouldn't use the Well to exert control over the Inquisitor, but if he's desperate enough he might well sink that low. If he does have that power over the Inquisitor, I can see him using it, though not easily. Solas has shown that he's willing to sink pretty low to get what he wants I have to say that I feel pretty "meh" about the idea that best ending should be hard to get... I mean, I guess it makes for a nice surprise if you get if right the first time, but after that, and particularly now that we have the keep, is just going to take looking up the forums and following the right steps... we're all going to be there by the second pt anyway. For me that kind of thing is a little like the clan Lavellan WT mission: if you got ir right the first time you probably didn't realize what a miracle that was; reloading and/or going through a guide doesn't make much to make you feel better once you get it right, you might be relieved but it doesn't feel really special; but, the first time you go get the "everyone is dead" message you really feel like shit, so all in all, I'm going to say it's not worthy But yes, if there's going to be a good ending, I'd not be surprised if it's tied to making some specific decision. In particular, I have always feared that it might be related to drinking or not from the well of sorrows, something like Morrigan/Mythal wants to kill Solas and if you drunk from the well you won't be able to stop her... I'm so afraid that things might be like that, that I always drink, but I'm seriously thinking about making my first pt in DA4 one where is Morrigan the one who drinks If it makes you feel better, I honestly am not sure the Well is going to factor into things as much as it should/players will like. I just have this gut feeling it'll be one of those choices where people complain that it was pointless even when it was such a huge decision. It's funny because I'm actually the opposite of you! I never drink from the Well, and I just now am doing a playthrough where I finally did. Yeah, I think it's probably going to be like the Dark Ritual decision. It seems like something that should have a HUGE impact on the future, but it doesn't end up doing much. I don't blame BioWare for not putting a lot of time and effort into an optional choice not everyone makes, but it sure can end up disappointing. Especially after you spend so much time theorizing how it could come into play. The Well choice might be impactful, but... if Solas does have Mythal after the end of the main game, then I'm not certain that it will matter... If he has control of her, it seems to follow that he has control of the Well. What if, in addition to needing her power to accomplish his goal, he has a secondary objective of freeing your Inquisitor from Mythal's influence? Not highly likely but it's something I have wondered about, at times. But if he has control of the Well, then it's implied that he has control over you. And that could be super creepy for a romanced Lavellan. ETA: Considering his thoughts on the right of freedom I hope he wouldn't use the Well to exert control over the Inquisitor, but if he's desperate enough he might well sink that low. TBH I'm really doubtful that the Well works that way and that Solas 'absorbed' Mythal, rather than specific power she had - in fact, he also had it prior to the whole absorption thing, if a blueish haze he emanated when he was charging Cole's amulet is any indicator. So whatever he did to Flemeth, he's mostly inherited her stored power - power that might have likely kept her alive, rather than her 'essence' or whatever. There are even some clues in the game to assume so. For example - when you drink from the Well and meet Mythal, you lack the option to attack her; a subtle hint that you have no intention to harm her, whether consciously or not. And when you drink from the Well and meet Solas in Trespasser, you still have an option to attack him. Although Solas having control over the Inquisitor would be interesting for the sake of drama, I don't really see it working like that either. And I never noticed a lack of attack option for just Well drinkers. Interesting!
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Post by morir_a_solas on Jan 18, 2017 4:20:21 GMT
Everyone's feet were terrible in DA2 also. And lord help you if you look at the characters' feet in DAI's Dalish armor. They did absolutely zero work to make that look decent and they're just misshapen lumps. BioWare please. I mean really, if you're going to create lore that makes a whole race barefoot all the time, you could at least do some design work to make it work. Perhaps once the everlasting struggle with hair is finally over. It's probably going to take some time. Edit: First post. So... here is concept Solas with hair? By Slugette. I think we've all gotten so used to this hairstyle that I really hope they don't show young Solas in DA4, cause knowing BWs hair record it'd be some sort of red buzz cut and we'd all think it doesn't look like (our version of) young Solas hahaha
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Post by Natashina on Jan 18, 2017 4:53:25 GMT
I just learned that one of my friends died yesterday. He was only in his thirties. That's heartbreaking to hear. I know I'm just a stranger and a geek from the net, but hit me up with a PM if you need to chat. [/spoiler
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