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Post by Shinobu on Feb 19, 2019 4:15:30 GMT
Very good watch. It just goes to show that the "Anthem haters" are also fans of BW. I just don't understand why people get overly defensive when a game they like is criticised. Hell I'm enjoying far cry new dawn, but I know all the criticisms surrounding it is based in fact. The game is meh, and so is Anthem. Thanks for the share. xLetalis is definitely not a hater and goes out of his way to listen to others.
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Post by officerdonnz on Feb 19, 2019 4:52:21 GMT
Well I've just paid for a month of origin access basic to give Anthem a go. Let's see how bad it is
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Post by Shinobu on Feb 19, 2019 5:29:52 GMT
Well I've just paid for a month of origin access basic to give Anthem a go. Let's see how bad it is If you enjoyed the alpha/demos you'll probably enjoy the game.
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Post by officerdonnz on Feb 19, 2019 5:35:45 GMT
Well I've just paid for a month of origin access basic to give Anthem a go. Let's see how bad it is If you enjoyed the alpha/demos you'll probably enjoy the game.
I never did get to play much of the alpha. So this will the first time I get to sit down with the game and see what it's like.
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Post by Shinobu on Feb 19, 2019 5:44:37 GMT
If you enjoyed the alpha/demos you'll probably enjoy the game.
I never did get to play much of the alpha. So this will the first time I get to sit down with the game and see what it's like. Ah, well, in that case, have fun! I enjoyed the demo despite the flaws. Flying is great. I'd suggest soloing or playing with friends over PUGs.
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Post by officerdonnz on Feb 19, 2019 5:48:33 GMT
I never did get to play much of the alpha. So this will the first time I get to sit down with the game and see what it's like. Ah, well, in that case, have fun! I enjoyed the demo despite the flaws. Flying is great. I'd suggest soloing or playing with friends over PUGs. What friends?
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Post by Shinobu on Feb 19, 2019 5:50:17 GMT
Ah, well, in that case, have fun! I enjoyed the demo despite the flaws. Flying is great. I'd suggest soloing or playing with friends over PUGs. What friends? Well, I'd play with you but I won't have the game until launch.
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Post by officerdonnz on Feb 19, 2019 5:52:06 GMT
What friends? Well, I'd play with you but I won't have the game until launch.
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Feb 19, 2019 8:22:42 GMT
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Post by NRieh on Feb 19, 2019 8:29:56 GMT
. I'd suggest soloing or playing with friends over PUGs. Unorunately, soloing is BAD. Like really-really bad. It could be not so obvious during the demo, because we had been given some starters gear and 10lv of boost. Playing with the real lv 1\2 character had made it obvious. Missions had NOT been dsigned for solo play, and there's no scaling. It's not that it's hard or something. It's just freaking LOONG and tedious. Taking down two "brute" mini-bosses from the story mission took me forever (lv3 ranger, normal). I never died, I just did not have enough DPS Could possibly get better once we reach some level and\or get some gear, but... I don't know. I'm going to give it a chance with the remaining early hours, but it does not look good so far. It's either chaos of PUG or this (unless you're lucky to have a solid group of playing friends).
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Post by saandrig on Feb 19, 2019 8:51:51 GMT
You know one other thing that's really kinda weird, and points more in the direction of this game getting a massive reboot somewhere in development? The fact that it's so heavily tilted towards being a multiplayer game, you're always in missions with other freelancers, yet nothing in any of the mission chatter acknowledges this. It's never "you and your squad" or "hey freelancers", it's always you and freelancer. Like, why isn't anyone acknowledging that I'm out here doing this with 3 other jabronis? Lots of MMO-style games have this problem, with you being The Chosen One, along with all 30 other Chosen Ones in the zone you see running around, but I just find it super jarring here. Actually I had instances where the game acknowledges teammates. If someone clicked a quest item Faye said "One of your team found X". And if I was falling behind when a scripted fight started I heard on the radio "Your team engaged the enemy". Those are the ones I noticed, could be more.
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Post by Space Cowboy on Feb 19, 2019 14:17:30 GMT
Ah, well, in that case, have fun! I enjoyed the demo despite the flaws. Flying is great. I'd suggest soloing or playing with friends over PUGs. What friends? I did the same thing. I’ve got about 2 hours left if you want to add me.
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Post by officerdonnz on Feb 19, 2019 14:36:02 GMT
. I'd suggest soloing or playing with friends over PUGs. Unorunately, soloing is BAD. Like really-really bad. It could be not so obvious during the demo, because we had been given some starters gear and 10lv of boost. Playing with the real lv 1\2 character had made it obvious. Missions had NOT been dsigned for solo play, and there's no scaling. It's not that it's hard or something. It's just freaking LOONG and tedious. Taking down two "brute" mini-bosses from the story mission took me forever (lv3 ranger, normal). I never died, I just did not have enough DPS Could possibly get better once we reach some level and\or get some gear, but... I don't know. I'm going to give it a chance with the remaining early hours, but it does not look good so far. It's either chaos of PUG or this (unless you're lucky to have a solid group of playing friends). So far I've found it very soloable. Admittedly I'm playing on easy and using the Colossus. I've only died once and that was because I couldn't remember how to trigger my ultimate. Currently level 3.
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Post by Space Cowboy on Feb 19, 2019 14:43:42 GMT
Unorunately, soloing is BAD. Like really-really bad. It could be not so obvious during the demo, because we had been given some starters gear and 10lv of boost. Playing with the real lv 1\2 character had made it obvious. Missions had NOT been dsigned for solo play, and there's no scaling. It's not that it's hard or something. It's just freaking LOONG and tedious. Taking down two "brute" mini-bosses from the story mission took me forever (lv3 ranger, normal). I never died, I just did not have enough DPS Could possibly get better once we reach some level and\or get some gear, but... I don't know. I'm going to give it a chance with the remaining early hours, but it does not look good so far. It's either chaos of PUG or this (unless you're lucky to have a solid group of playing friends). So far I've found it very soloable. Admittedly I'm playing on easy and using the Colossus. I've only died once and that was because I couldn't remember how to trigger my ultimate. Currently level 3. Yeah I played on easy, with a colossus as well. It’s fine
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Post by saandrig on Feb 19, 2019 14:51:04 GMT
Easy is definitely the Solo difficulty. If you go higher while soloing you just punish yourself (unless you are well geared). After you get some green items (no need for blue ones at all) you can stomp just about anything on Easy.
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Feb 19, 2019 15:32:00 GMT
Easy is definitely the Solo difficulty. If you go higher while soloing you just punish yourself (unless you are well geared). After you get some green items (no need for blue ones at all) you can stomp just about anything on Easy. uhm...yeah but that is not how it should work
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Post by monkeylungs on Feb 19, 2019 15:44:06 GMT
You know one other thing that's really kinda weird, and points more in the direction of this game getting a massive reboot somewhere in development? The fact that it's so heavily tilted towards being a multiplayer game, you're always in missions with other freelancers, yet nothing in any of the mission chatter acknowledges this. It's never "you and your squad" or "hey freelancers", it's always you and freelancer. Like, why isn't anyone acknowledging that I'm out here doing this with 3 other jabronis? Lots of MMO-style games have this problem, with you being The Chosen One, along with all 30 other Chosen Ones in the zone you see running around, but I just find it super jarring here. Eh, idk about that. Dialogue is usually written and recorded very late in the dev cycle. It's more likely that frostbite is just a really shitty engine that is very difficult to use. Puts out amazing visuals but hardly does anything else well. Any chance you could explain that? I'm not trying to argue I just am having trouble understanding how the engine is at fault for how the NPC's refer to a team of freelancers vs. a single freelancer?
Also for this kind of game they may as well default to the plural when addressing freelancers if they don't want to actually put in the effort to record two sets of spoken lines, create two sets of subtitles etc.
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Post by acehilator on Feb 19, 2019 15:49:11 GMT
Playing on normal is easy already. Only reason why I am not playing on Hard is because I'm grinding challenges for weapons and gears.
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Post by shinobiwan on Feb 19, 2019 15:53:25 GMT
Eh, idk about that. Dialogue is usually written and recorded very late in the dev cycle. It's more likely that frostbite is just a really shitty engine that is very difficult to use. Puts out amazing visuals but hardly does anything else well. Any chance you could explain that? I'm not trying to argue I just am having trouble understanding how the engine is at fault for how the NPC's refer to a team of freelancers vs. a single freelancer?
Also for this kind of game they may as well default to the plural when addressing freelancers if they don't want to actually put in the effort to record two sets of spoken lines, create two sets of subtitles etc.
I'm saying the engine is the primary culprit for the game being so unfinished generally. Lenny said the dialogue could indicate a rescope, I don't think it's great evidence of that.
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Post by monkeylungs on Feb 19, 2019 16:02:24 GMT
So the engine is stopping the proper dialogue scripts from firing?
Are you saying there ARE two sets of dialogue, one for single 'freelancer' and one for plural 'freelancers' and that the engine is not firing the correct dialogue?
I think the more likely reason is Bioware needed to do another pass through their dialogue and make sure they were referring to a team of freelancers at all times so the dialogue is consistent. Either that or check to make sure they have the correct variable being called during dialogue. However, I am quite certain they didn't create two sets of spoken lines, two sets of subtitles etc. to account for solo players vs. groups of freelancers.
They just need to double check their work, or quadruple check, or hire better QA, or actually listen to their QA staff.
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Post by shinobiwan on Feb 19, 2019 16:17:22 GMT
So the engine is stopping the proper dialogue scripts from firing? Are you saying there ARE two sets of dialogue, one for single 'freelancer' and one for plural 'freelancers' and that the engine is not firing the correct dialogue? I think the more likely reason is Bioware needed to do another pass through their dialogue and make sure they were referring to a team of freelancers at all times so the dialogue is consistent. Either that or check to make sure they have the correct variable being called during dialogue. However, I am quite certain they didn't create two sets of spoken lines, two sets of subtitles etc. to account for solo players vs. groups of freelancers. They just need to double check their work, or quadruple check, or hire better QA, or actually listen to their QA staff. That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying the dialogue is not a good indication that the game was rescoped from primarily sp to mp because the dialogue would have been written and recorded after that decision was made. He thinks a rescope might explain why the game came out this bad generally, and I'm just saying I think it's generally attributable to the engine.
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Post by Space Cowboy on Feb 19, 2019 16:35:13 GMT
Games always refer to only the player character.
Even DAO did this. The Templar in Lothering said you took on those bandits all by yourself, ignoring Alistair, morrigan and barkspawn.
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Post by biggydx on Feb 19, 2019 16:50:45 GMT
So the engine is stopping the proper dialogue scripts from firing? Are you saying there ARE two sets of dialogue, one for single 'freelancer' and one for plural 'freelancers' and that the engine is not firing the correct dialogue? I think the more likely reason is Bioware needed to do another pass through their dialogue and make sure they were referring to a team of freelancers at all times so the dialogue is consistent. Either that or check to make sure they have the correct variable being called during dialogue. However, I am quite certain they didn't create two sets of spoken lines, two sets of subtitles etc. to account for solo players vs. groups of freelancers. They just need to double check their work, or quadruple check, or hire better QA, or actually listen to their QA staff. That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying the dialogue is not a good indication that the game was rescoped from primarily sp to mp because the dialogue would have been written and recorded after that decision was made. He thinks a rescope might explain why the game came out this bad generally, and I'm just saying I think it's generally attributable to the engine. (i.e. The engine is bad at making open world games with RPG systems)
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Post by Terminator Force on Feb 19, 2019 17:41:18 GMT
Easy is definitely the Solo difficulty. If you go higher while soloing you just punish yourself (unless you are well geared). After you get some green items (no need for blue ones at all) you can stomp just about anything on Easy. Since beta learned to crank it to hard to get more out of the game. Not that I'm not pugging things up out there, but slowly git'ing gud. Beat game yesterday, just finished final stronghold about an hour ago. Level 29 right now with Storm and just group freezing and chain combo'ing frozen enemies with a charged up fireball like a boss (ie. chaining the spiders in first Stronghold is enough to refill your Ultimate from when spider boss comes back. My team got a two cycle on that boss earlier today). Next might choose Colossus to level up.
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