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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Feb 21, 2019 15:08:30 GMT
untrue, they said multiple times that had found a way to marry narrative driven games and looter shooters AND Casey did promise the game would feel like a traditional bioware game Of course Those were lies I must have completely missed those claims. From all I heard before the VIP demo they were saying not to expect Bioware story, romance, companions, etc. And they never showed any story bits before the demo. So to me that pretty much meant it will be short and shallow. Up to a certain point I was hoping they will introduce Bioware story to looter shooters like they did to the MMO formula with SWTOR. But with TOR they were hyping the story from day 1. When the Anthem story was not even talked about as a major point and not even shown, I stopped hoping and knew what was coming. they were made soon after the reveal....the Casey Hudson quote is just a google away it's the easiest to find. They started telling the truth in bits and pieces , you know, turnibgntje temperature of the water up slowly so the frog would not jump out. Bioware was just a mean to an end for EA
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Post by Gileadan on Feb 21, 2019 15:09:08 GMT
I must have completely missed those claims. From all I heard before the VIP demo they were saying not to expect Bioware story, romance, companions, etc. And they never showed any story bits before the demo. So to me that pretty much meant it will be short and shallow. Up to a certain point I was hoping they will introduce Bioware story to looter shooters like they did to the MMO formula with SWTOR. But with TOR they were hyping the story from day 1. When the Anthem story was not even talked about as a major point and not even shown, I stopped hoping and knew what was coming. Those claims are easy to miss or even forget, because they were mentioned less and less the closer we got to release date. I don't remember whether it was in tweets or in one of the blog posts, but there were claims that Anthem would still be very much a BioWare game with regards to story. They used the tagline "Our World My Story" to hype the game, and the E3 reveal trailer ends with the Freelancer saying "Our story is out there", if I remember correctly. They did mention that there wouldn't be romances on release, and they worded in a way that gave the impression that the lack of romances was the only difference to the BioWare stories we knew and loved. Then they spoiled the ending with a careless comment "yeah you're going to defeat the Dominion" (surprise...), and that was when I felt that I shouldn't expect too much. (And this reminds me of how the statements that Strongholds can't be soloed made me conclude - incorrectly, it turns out - that everything else could.) Once I played the demo's Mattias-missions I was convinced that the story would be nothing to write home about.
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Feb 21, 2019 15:28:42 GMT
untrue, they said multiple times that had found a way to marry narrative driven games and looter shooters AND Casey did promise the game would feel like a traditional bioware game Of course Those were lies I must have completely missed those claims. From all I heard before the VIP demo they were saying not to expect Bioware story, romance, companions, etc. And they never showed any story bits before the demo. So to me that pretty much meant it will be short and shallow. Up to a certain point I was hoping they will introduce Bioware story to looter shooters like they did to the MMO formula with SWTOR. But with TOR they were hyping the story from day 1. When the Anthem story was not even talked about as a major point and not even shown, I stopped hoping and knew what was coming. www.google.com/amp/s/www.vg247.com/2018/08/30/anthem-will-retain-the-heart-and-soul-of-a-bioware-experience/amp/ there is a couple here
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Post by alanc9 on Feb 21, 2019 15:36:08 GMT
Then they spoiled the ending with a careless comment "yeah you're going to defeat the Dominion" (surprise...), and that was when I felt that I shouldn't expect too much. It's not like we don't know we're going to, say, defeat the archdemon in DA:O. Says so right on the box.
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Post by lennybusker on Feb 21, 2019 15:37:15 GMT
Then they spoiled the ending with a careless comment "yeah you're going to defeat the Dominion" (surprise...), and that was when I felt that I shouldn't expect too much. It's not like we don't know we're going to, say, defeat the archdemon in DA:O. Says so right on the box. I would have loved it if WE, the player, actually defeated The Monitor. Alas,
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Post by Gileadan on Feb 21, 2019 15:39:51 GMT
Then they spoiled the ending with a careless comment "yeah you're going to defeat the Dominion" (surprise...), and that was when I felt that I shouldn't expect too much. It's not like we don't know we're going to, say, defeat the archdemon in DA:O. Says so right on the box. Yeah, they messed it up before. No reason to do it again.
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Feb 21, 2019 15:40:36 GMT
It's not like we don't know we're going to, say, defeat the archdemon in DA:O. Says so right on the box. I would have loved it if WE, the player, actually defeated The Monitor. Alas, or like when we were not allowed a proper victory with a decent reunion in ME3 lol
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Feb 21, 2019 16:05:12 GMT
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Post by lennybusker on Feb 21, 2019 16:08:08 GMT
SofaJockey , with this thread reaching an unwieldy page count and the game actually released, should we be looking at maybe a general "Anthem Gripes and Complaints" now? I appreciate the designation as a bit of an unsafe space for people who only want positivity. If they want an "Anthem is Wonderful and Perfect" thread I don't think many of us here would begrudge that or attempt to rain on their parade.
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Post by alanc9 on Feb 21, 2019 16:10:22 GMT
It's not like we don't know we're going to, say, defeat the archdemon in DA:O. Says so right on the box. Yeah, they messed it up before. No reason to do it again. Agreed, but this is a problem with Bio games in general rather than Anthem in particular, right? Most Bio games have worked like this.
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Feb 21, 2019 16:13:14 GMT
SofaJockey , with this thread reaching an unwieldy page count and the game actually released, should we be looking at maybe a general "Anthem Gripes and Complaints" now? I appreciate the designation as a bit of an unsafe space for people who only want positivity. If they want an "Anthem is Wonderful and Perfect" thread I don't think many of us here would begrudge that or attempt to rain on their parade. we can just rename this one no?
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Post by alanc9 on Feb 21, 2019 16:17:46 GMT
Well, I guess we can drop the line about EA buying off all of the major reviewers. A well-written review.
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Post by Gileadan on Feb 21, 2019 16:18:06 GMT
Yeah, they messed it up before. No reason to do it again. Agreed, but this is a problem with Bio games in general rather than Anthem in particular, right? Most Bio games have worked like this. True, I recall them spoiling major plot points in their pre-release trailers, which I consider the result of poor marketing decisions. But it's kinda new to me that they do it with a careless comment, and that gave me the feeling that the story just wasn't important to them.
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Post by Shinobu on Feb 21, 2019 16:21:34 GMT
That seems fair from what I saw in the demo. The lure of flight and the ability to solo much of the content are still strong enough incentives for me to buy it, though.
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Feb 21, 2019 16:26:53 GMT
Well, I guess we can drop the line about EA buying off all of the major reviewers. A well-written review. I guess we can
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Post by SofaJockey on Feb 21, 2019 16:35:21 GMT
SofaJockey , with this thread reaching an unwieldy page count and the game actually released, should we be looking at maybe a general "Anthem Gripes and Complaints" now? I appreciate the designation as a bit of an unsafe space for people who only want positivity. If they want an "Anthem is Wonderful and Perfect" thread I don't think many of us here would begrudge that or attempt to rain on their parade. You're more than welcome to start one. Though it wouldn't be notionally protected for skeptical opinions as this thread is. But with that in mind, fill your boots.
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Post by alanc9 on Feb 21, 2019 16:40:02 GMT
Agreed, but this is a problem with Bio games in general rather than Anthem in particular, right? Most Bio games have worked like this. True, I recall them spoiling major plot points in their pre-release trailers, which I consider the result of poor marketing decisions. But it's kinda new to me that they do it with a careless comment, and that gave me the feeling that the story just wasn't important to them. My guess is that they don't think of this stuff as being secret in the first place. It's not like like you go into, say, a Spider-Man film and think that Spidey's maybe not going to defeat the Green Goblin, or whoever.
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Feb 21, 2019 16:42:28 GMT
True, I recall them spoiling major plot points in their pre-release trailers, which I consider the result of poor marketing decisions. But it's kinda new to me that they do it with a careless comment, and that gave me the feeling that the story just wasn't important to them. My guess is that they don't think of this stuff as being secret in the first place. It's not like like you go into, say, a Spider-Man film and think that Spidey's maybe not going to defeat the Green Goblin, or whoever. unless it is ME3 and Casey Hudson is feeling the ART
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Post by Mobius Y on Feb 21, 2019 16:44:31 GMT
Then they spoiled the ending with a careless comment "yeah you're going to defeat the Dominion" (surprise...), and that was when I felt that I shouldn't expect too much. Are you saying we get transported through time and space to Deep Space Nine??
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Post by Camel on Feb 21, 2019 16:45:48 GMT
Angry Joe is a Bioware fanboy and that doesn't sound good. In other words, more likely to be interested in story and lore over gameplay. But loading screens and bad design are gameplay.
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Post by NotN7 on Feb 21, 2019 16:52:52 GMT
AWW common admit it we all know that the loading screens are just short intermissions se we can rest our trigger fingers
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Feb 21, 2019 16:55:53 GMT
AWW common admit it we all know that the loading screens are just short intermissions se we can rest our trigger fingers or your thumb if you play interceptor
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Post by saandrig on Feb 21, 2019 16:57:52 GMT
AWW common admit it we all know that the loading screens are just short intermissions se we can rest our trigger fingers or your thumb if you play interceptor Macro ftw
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Feb 21, 2019 17:01:52 GMT
or your thumb if you play interceptor Macro ftw lol
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Feb 21, 2019 17:13:16 GMT
So let's see
Reviews are coming in and they are not great.
Influencers are not happy with the product
Uhm....failure imminent?
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