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Post by SofaJockey on Feb 22, 2019 13:43:10 GMT
A friendly encouragement to those who are not skeptical about Anthem: By all means, pop in to make an occasional remark, but this is the Skepticism Thread, so any major discussion about the merits of Anthem, if such things exist (getting into character now ) are topics for others threads. This thread is allowed to be skeptical about Anthem in relative peace. Thanks.
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Feb 22, 2019 13:43:40 GMT
Moist Meter | Anthem Critikal does not like, even Andromeda got more moisture.
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Post by xrayspex73 on Feb 22, 2019 18:10:50 GMT
If I had high enough hopes it would be a possible purchase I would. But as is I don’t want to put 10 hours into a 15 hour game. Even at the mediocre levels it seems to be I’d want to finish the story. So I’ll wait until the entire game is free for me. If you ask me, the game doesn't really begin and open up until after you beat the main quest. I wish this were the case. I felt the opposite. Once I was done with the main campaign, it feels like there is really nothing to do but grind contracts/strongholds for loot. No more story beats, no more interaction with the NPCs (except getting more generic contracts). The game becomes even more hollow. I almost want to start a new game just to run through the campaign again because at least I can replay some of the more interesting quests. I had so many buggy cutscenes and even missed some when I got matchmade late into campaign missions.
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Post by aglomeracja on Feb 22, 2019 18:37:14 GMT
Facial animations are pretty great in Anthem though
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Post by cankiie on Feb 22, 2019 19:43:30 GMT
Facial animations are pretty great in Anthem though I suppose some of the bioware studios knows how NOT to make faces that are tired from dealing with... everything.
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Post by Hrulj on Feb 22, 2019 19:45:07 GMT
Really starting to roll. Bioware reformation or shutdown incoming.
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Post by ahglock on Feb 22, 2019 19:53:52 GMT
Really starting to roll. Bioware reformation or shutdown incoming. People spin things so who knows maybe neither. If it’s the fans hating it blame it on bigots, reviewers blame it on reviews being for a pre-release or early version of a online game that is constantly evolving.
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Post by Hrulj on Feb 22, 2019 20:07:47 GMT
Really starting to roll. Bioware reformation or shutdown incoming. People spin things so who knows maybe neither. If it’s the fans hating it blame it on bigots, reviewers blame it on reviews being for a pre-release or early version of a online game that is constantly evolving. Please eat it! It may be shit now but I promise in a few weeks it will be Prime grade Wagyu beef steak! Ignore the 6 years spent making the game. Next few weeks is all it needs.
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Post by Garo on Feb 22, 2019 20:15:35 GMT
People spin things so who knows maybe neither. If it’s the fans hating it blame it on bigots, reviewers blame it on reviews being for a pre-release or early version of a online game that is constantly evolving Please eat it! It may be shit now but I promise in a few weeks it will be Prime grade Wagyu beef steak! Ignore the 6 years spent making the game. Next few weeks is all it needs. I could do without this visualization.
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Post by fiannawolf on Feb 22, 2019 20:30:52 GMT
I can hear something in the distance.....
Yea, I wasn't even able to load into the Beta from the key my brother gave me. At this point the Division 2 looks even more palatable in comparison. At least in that beta I was able to get a good 10 hrs in. My brother had both pre-ordered but in this instance he's going to get much more out of Division 2.
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Post by Fogg on Feb 22, 2019 21:24:54 GMT
You know how they say that there's no such thing as bad publicity? I almost want to play the game now to see if it's really thát bad. If combat en flying is as much fun as all the reviewers are saying, shouldn't the game be scored a bit higher.
I feel like the negative reviews are a sort of protest against EA designing a game that's all about getting people to spend as much money as possible. Forcing it to be made by a studio most gamers like for great singleplayer experiences. But in the end, the 'game my life away' crowd will still play it. These people just play all endless grind games, switching from one to the other with every update. I could still very well be a huge commercial succes. And EA will keep putting out crack to kids.
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Post by Doc on Feb 22, 2019 21:31:38 GMT
You know how they say that there's no such thing as bad publicity? I almost want to play the game now to see if it's really thát bad. If combat en flying is as much fun as all the reviewers are saying, shouldn't the game be scored a bit higher. I feel like the negative reviews are a sort of protest against EA designing a game that's all about getting people to spend as much money as possible. Forcing it to be made by a studio most gamers like for great singleplayer experiences. But in the end, the 'game my life away' crowd will still play it. These people just play all endless grind games, switching from one to the other with every update. I could still very well be a huge commercial succes. And EA will keep putting out crack to kids. If anything, the reviews are more positive than they should be. The game is literally unplayable for many people. 24-hour game-jams have produced more completed games, and this took six years. It's also lacking major features that had been advertised until recently.
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Post by Garo on Feb 22, 2019 21:48:57 GMT
What I find surprising is that this game was made by their A team during 5 years of development. I thought they sidetracked Andromeda for Anthem but now I really don't know what went wrong. I'm not saying that Anthem won't be an actually good looter shooter in like a year (I think Destiny also had to develop for some time for people to like it more) but it should at least not contain so many bugs at launch.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2019 21:54:02 GMT
What I find surprising is that this game was made by their A team during 5 years of development. I thought they sidetracked Andromeda for Anthem but now I really don't know what went wrong. I'm not saying that Anthem won't be an actually good looter shooter in like a year (I think Destiny also had to develop for some time for people to like it more) but it should at least not contain so many bugs at launch. This is what is so frightening. It was done by their A-team. Not the B-team, or their C-team. The A-team. Even the writting is meh. 6-7 years for fuck sake. More years than Skyrim or RDR2.
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Post by ahglock on Feb 22, 2019 22:06:40 GMT
What I find surprising is that this game was made by their A team during 5 years of development. I thought they sidetracked Andromeda for Anthem but now I really don't know what went wrong. I'm not saying that Anthem won't be an actually good looter shooter in like a year (I think Destiny also had to develop for some time for people to like it more) but it should at least not contain so many bugs at launch. Destiny was kind of first on the block for that style of looter shooter. That gave it the luxury to grow over a year. When you drop into a existing market you don’t get that pass as interested people have other options. Even at launch I think destiny had more content in it than the reports are saying for this game. That being said I hated Destiny’s power system of use a power once every minute or something, so the gameplay here is more enticing. Though I’m not sure all powers ignore your guns is actually better. Seems like there needs to be a balance between the two extremes.
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Post by ahglock on Feb 22, 2019 22:08:22 GMT
What I find surprising is that this game was made by their A team during 5 years of development. I thought they sidetracked Andromeda for Anthem but now I really don't know what went wrong. I'm not saying that Anthem won't be an actually good looter shooter in like a year (I think Destiny also had to develop for some time for people to like it more) but it should at least not contain so many bugs at launch. This is what is so frightening. It was done by their A-team. Not the B-team, or their C-team. The A-team. Even the writting is meh. 6-7 years for fuck sake. More years than Skyrim or RDR2. My assumption is there was a late design shift. At least I lie to think so. Otherwise wtf were they doing for 6 years.
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Post by Conquer Your Dreams on Feb 23, 2019 1:07:59 GMT
This is what is so frightening. It was done by their A-team. Not the B-team, or their C-team. The A-team. Even the writting is meh. 6-7 years for fuck sake. More years than Skyrim or RDR2. My assumption is there was a late design shift. At least I lie to think so. Otherwise wtf were they doing for 6 years. 4,5 year celebrating - 6 months thinking - 1 year working.
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Post by jackdaniel on Feb 23, 2019 1:40:40 GMT
Even though I hate idea of MP only game, I secrectly hoped that the game was everything Bioware promised it woupd be. I bought into the hype. Now its just sad.
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Post by Obadiah on Feb 23, 2019 2:00:25 GMT
I've only played a little (demo and now the intro), but it seems like a standard Bioware gameplay, but the henchies are other actual players now. I'm underwhelmed by the face and conversation option selections, but gameplay-wise I'm liking it.
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Post by Sartoz on Feb 23, 2019 7:03:51 GMT
My assumption is there was a late design shift. At least I lie to think so. Otherwise wtf were they doing for 6 years. 4,5 year celebrating - 6 months thinking - 1 year working. Bio's 1st marketing video showed a loot box drop, if you recall. Then came the mtx kerfuffle in Reddit with the Star Wars game. Then Bio removed the loot box drop with "... we never had one.... yadda, yadda".
So, yes, the studio did lose time and the original game launch date was postponed to Feb 22. Why? to me it's simple. Grinding and rewards game logic had to change to meet the monetisation targets, Ripping out the original Game Progression core design and replacing it with a new one is bound to violate the Law of Unintended Consequences.
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Post by Doc on Feb 23, 2019 8:31:48 GMT
Bio's 1st marketing video showed a loot box drop, if you recall. Then came the mtx kerfuffle in Reddit with the Star Wars game. Then Bio removed the loot box drop with "... we never had one.... yadda, yadda".
So, yes, the studio did lose time and the original game launch date was postponed to Feb 22. Why? to me it's simple. Grinding and rewards game logic had to change to meet the monetisation targets, Ripping out the original Game Progression core design and replacing it with a new one is bound to violate the Law of Unintended Consequences. Upsetting to think the progression/grind was so deeply tied into monetization.
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Post by Kappa Neko on Feb 23, 2019 9:49:26 GMT
I'm more than a bit iffy about these vanity chests they're introducing. AFTER launch. Since the keys supposedly won't be purchasable they aren't straight up lootboxes in the traditional sense but now I can't help wondering when EA might decide to monetize them too. They're putting the mechanic in place in any case.
I do kind of feel like Mike Gamble's reassurance that there won't be lootboxes only a month ago is sort of ironic. They are psychologically lootboxes.
On the other hand, I guess it will be something that loot junkies appreciate. Makes the whole thing more satisfying. I can see why they're adding them.
I just don't trust the addition of a lootbox mechanic that other games use to squeeze money out of people.
Since I won't be buying this game any time soon it doesn't concern me. As a customer og an EA game I'd be wary though. I really hope the keys will remain MTX free.
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Post by papaspud on Feb 23, 2019 10:57:40 GMT
Well, did the patch and played a little more- still just didn't have any fun, I decided this game isn't for me, just way too boring, so I uninstalled... why take up hard drive space on my nvme.
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