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Post by ahglock on Feb 28, 2019 17:16:51 GMT
Toxic positivity. Never heard that before, I like it.
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Post by shinobiwan on Feb 28, 2019 17:39:51 GMT
After Andromeda there was a "Andromeda sucks, BioWare screwed up" bubble and a "The game is actually great, I love you Bioware" bubble fighting each other. But I guess Anthem managed to make it so that people no longer care that much and just move on. Also, if you really want to be in the Anthem loop, surrounded by fanboys and BioWare devs that reply on your questions and fanmail, you should check the subreddit. lol yeah for sure, I follow the subreddit and their discord as well. it's a complete cesspool. I tried explaining last night that it's actually toxic positivity, but that went over as well as a fart in church The only people left in the discord and subreddit are the kinds of people who will not stop screaming if you say anything critical. They literally attack all reviewers for being negative when there is a clear consensus that the game is mediocre at best. It's a total waste of time.
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Post by shinobiwan on Feb 28, 2019 17:46:22 GMT
Anyone notice how dead it is in here? How did the General forum activity for Andromeda go? I only posted in the Co Op section really. It's just a ghost town here right now, there's like 8 of us talking about actually playing the game. I think a lot of the regulars around here have seen how this plays out from Andromeda and have just moved on. It's the same story - bad launch, lots of promised fixes that turn out to be underwhelming and not fully responsive to the players' concerns, the changes come pretty late, no real progress. It's not enough to address only a portion of the problems that never should have been there at launch. It's just not worth bothering with this process again.
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Post by Pounce de León on Feb 28, 2019 17:51:01 GMT
Bioware was (and still is I guess) hoping to set the new IP and then throw out Anthem 2 in 2-3 years time. I don't buy all this crap about the 10 year plan. Just more Destiny type lies. It is interesting to point out that the guy who said about this "10 year plan", Patrick Söderlund, then EA's Executive Vice President, has quit working for EA. Clearly, not even the "10-year plan" man himself believed in Anthem. The 10-year myth isnt unique with EA. It was touted with Destiny and Elite Dangerous. I guess there must have been some kind of sect convention where live services with 10 year shelf live have been promoted as salvation for video game development. But is bullshit anyway. Söderlund now makes video games his daughter likes to play.
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Post by ahglock on Feb 28, 2019 17:56:05 GMT
lol yeah for sure, I follow the subreddit and their discord as well. it's a complete cesspool. I tried explaining last night that it's actually toxic positivity, but that went over as well as a fart in church The only people left in the discord and subreddit are the kinds of people who will not stop screaming if you say anything critical. They literally attack all reviewers for being negative when there is a clear consensus that the game is mediocre at best. It's a total waste of time. Every fandom has it’s groups who are so obsessed that if their obsession showed up at their home and murdered them they would apologize to them for making them use two bullets.
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Post by Iakus on Feb 28, 2019 18:51:27 GMT
lol yeah for sure, I follow the subreddit and their discord as well. it's a complete cesspool. I tried explaining last night that it's actually toxic positivity, but that went over as well as a fart in church The only people left in the discord and subreddit are the kinds of people who will not stop screaming if you say anything critical. They literally attack all reviewers for being negative when there is a clear consensus that the game is mediocre at best. It's a total waste of time. Even on this site's Twitter, you're basically called a troll if you say anything critical about Anthem:
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Post by akots on Feb 28, 2019 18:53:52 GMT
Anyone notice how dead it is in here? We already had MEA, there are no surprises here as Anthem will most likely follow the routine. Anthem handles and plays identically to MEAMP which at least had some content in the beginning including turians, asari, and orgasmic panting that was never patched. Almost forgot the human female adept, that one was ap piece of art for sure. Some of the bugs were eventually fixed while the majority were never even approached. Mechanics of Anthem is so similar, there is no point. Seems like you are playing a havoc against DAIMP dragon-like bosses. At least DAIMP dragons had some personality and story which obviously Anthem is lacking.
If I want to fly somewhere, I can power up an archwing or let Titania loose on the Plains or Orb. It is really enjoyable and completely free, has about 100 times more content and 10-times more people.
By the end, they'll bloat the manifest to desperately give any content as they did and everyone would just simply quit.
To be honest, I like scifi (Mass effect, etc), fairy tales (Dragon age, Witcher, etc.), and steampunk. This one is neither and is a weird blend in some mountain jungle with caves. So, it is neither alien nor fairy tale and sounds like some casual inspirational conversation from 60 minutes or more likely from some regular folks you meet every few days in the supermarket. Anthem has nothing that may be even remotely tempting, no personality, nothing interesting.
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Post by shinobiwan on Feb 28, 2019 19:16:21 GMT
Anyone notice how dead it is in here? We already had MEA, there are no surprises here as Anthem will most likely follow the routine. Anthem handles and plays identically to MEAMP which at least had some content in the beginning including turians, asari, and orgasmic panting that was never patched. Almost forgot the human female adept, that one was ap piece of art for sure. Some of the bugs were eventually fixed while the majority were never even approached. Mechanics of Anthem is so similar, there is no point. Seems like you are playing a havoc against DAIMP dragon-like bosses. At least DAIMP dragons had some personality and story which obviously Anthem is lacking.
If I want to fly somewhere, I can power up an archwing or let Titania loose on the Plains or Orb. It is really enjoyable and completely free, has about 100 times more content and 10-times more people.
By the end, they'll bloat the manifest to desperately give any content as they did and everyone would just simply quit.
To be honest, I like scifi (Mass effect, etc), fairy tales (Dragon age, Witcher, etc.), and steampunk. This one is neither and is a weird blend in some mountain jungle with caves. So, it is neither alien nor fairy tale and sounds like some casual inspirational conversation from 60 minutes or more likely from some regular folks you meet every few days in the supermarket. Anthem has nothing that may be even remotely tempting, no personality, nothing interesting.
Now that you mention it, there's a distinct lack of pwnytail in anthem.
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Post by CryMeARiver on Feb 28, 2019 19:17:25 GMT
The only people left in the discord and subreddit are the kinds of people who will not stop screaming if you say anything critical. They literally attack all reviewers for being negative when there is a clear consensus that the game is mediocre at best. It's a total waste of time. Even on this site's Twitter, you're basically called a troll if you say anything critical about Anthem: This site being biased against Bioware criticism...No...Never!!! Speaking of criticism (Funny that is)
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Post by jclosed on Feb 28, 2019 19:35:44 GMT
Anyone notice how dead it is in here? How did the General forum activity for Andromeda go? I only posted in the Co Op section really. It's just a ghost town here right now, there's like 8 of us talking about actually playing the game. I think a lot of the regulars around here have seen how this plays out from Andromeda and have just moved on. It's the same story - bad launch, lots of promised fixes that turn out to be underwhelming and not fully responsive to the players' concerns, the changes come pretty late, no real progress. It's not enough to address only a portion of the problems that never should have been there at launch. It's just not worth bothering with this process again. Well.....
Let's not forget the majority of the "core" audience of Bioware loved the Single Player Games... So - Anthem just not was that big of a deal for them. This is, of course, based on my own preferences. I mean - I own and have played nearly all Bioware games. The only exception are the multiplayer components/games.
I can honestly say that Anthem did not interested me one bit the moment I saw it would be multiplayer, and even if I had some shred of interest left, it went right out of the window the moment they started talking about "Games As A Service".... I mean Really? Blech.....
So - While I do not hate Anthem or something, I knew beforehand that the multiplayer component would mean there would not be any story in the way I would like to play. In multiplayer stuff there is no way you can play as the "one and only hero". I stead you suddenly have multiple sub-hero's that have to act as some kind of one entity. Needless to say that has a big impact on the story.
Anyway - I do not especially want Anthem to fail, but I do not especially want it to succeed either. I just do not care one bit. So why should I join any camp about "Anthem is good" or "Anthem is bad"? I personally thought from the beginning Anthem would struggle, because it's simply too far away from the core audience of Bioware game lovers. It seems like things are going in the direction I feared, but who knows? Not that I care anyway....
Back to the subject of not much visitors. I think a lot of people that like Bioware games feel the same as me. They take a look at this forum and think; "Oh Yeah, Whatever", and go to the Dragon Age part or Other Games part. I only dropped in here to give this comment, but I simply have no interest in the Anthem part of this forum. So yeah.... I leave it at that and move on....
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Post by shinobiwan on Feb 28, 2019 19:55:26 GMT
I think a lot of the regulars around here have seen how this plays out from Andromeda and have just moved on. It's the same story - bad launch, lots of promised fixes that turn out to be underwhelming and not fully responsive to the players' concerns, the changes come pretty late, no real progress. It's not enough to address only a portion of the problems that never should have been there at launch. It's just not worth bothering with this process again. Well.....
Let's not forget the majority of the "core" audience of Bioware loved the Single Player Games... So - Anthem just not was that big of a deal for them. This is, of course, based on my own preferences. I mean - I own and have played nearly all Bioware games. The only exception are the multiplayer components/games.
I can honestly say that Anthem did not interested me one bit the moment I saw it would be multiplayer, and even if I had some shred of interest left, it went right out of the window the moment they started talking about "Games As A Service".... I mean Really? Blech.....
So - While I do not hate Anthem or something, I knew beforehand that the multiplayer component would mean there would not be any story in the way I would like to play. In multiplayer stuff there is no way you can play as the "one and only hero". I stead you suddenly have multiple sub-hero's that have to act as some kind of one entity. Needless to say that has a big impact on the story.
Anyway - I do not especially want Anthem to fail, but I do not especially want it to succeed either. I just do not care one bit. So why should I join any camp about "Anthem is good" or "Anthem is bad"? I personally thought from the beginning Anthem would struggle, because it's simply too far away from the core audience of Bioware game lovers. It seems like things are going in the direction I feared, but who knows? Not that I care anyway....
Back to the subject of not much visitors. I think a lot of people that like Bioware games feel the same as me. They take a look at this forum and think; "Oh Yeah, Whatever", and go to the Dragon Age part or Other Games part. I only dropped in here to give this comment, but I simply have no interest in the Anthem part of this forum. So yeah.... I leave it at that and move on....
I should have clarified - the regulars that were around for me3mp and meamp, many of which were interested in anthem.
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Post by Iakus on Feb 28, 2019 20:12:20 GMT
Even on this site's Twitter, you're basically called a troll if you say anything critical about Anthem: This site being biased against Bioware criticism...No...Never!!! Speaking of criticism (Funny that is) Yeah, well, Sofa seems to be shilling extra hard for Bioware nowadays. Clearly the unwashed masses can't be trusted with their own opinions...
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Post by Camel on Mar 1, 2019 20:40:12 GMT
I said a few post back that Andromeda was sacrificed for Anthem, but seeing how things currently are in Anthem, was it really sacrificed? I'm not so sure the "A team" would have given us a far better game with MEA. The animations may have been better, but the technical issues, story, characters, and dialog? I don't know.... Right, so Mass Effect 4 was sacrificed for THIS?
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Post by alanc9 on Mar 1, 2019 21:38:40 GMT
You mean MEA2?
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Post by Camel on Mar 2, 2019 6:27:27 GMT
Yeah, I meant the next ME.
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Post by alanc9 on Mar 2, 2019 6:47:33 GMT
ME5, then?
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Post by jamiecotc on Mar 3, 2019 3:52:58 GMT
Full disclosure, I'm not a fan of MP games. With that out of the way, I like Anthem's combat. It's fun. The game is also beautiful. The NPCs are very well done and the landscapes are stunning. So, that's the good stuff.
The so-so. I'm not in love with the story. I couldn't tell you anything about the lore at this point and I've been playing since the 26th. Same w/ the characters. The voice acting is, for the most part, very good. Just not digging anyone in particular.
The bad. Bugs and connection problems are inevitable, but I've hit a wall. The last seven matches were either cut off or didn't complete or had some kind of bug. I'm up to level 22. My biggest gripe, however is the SP storyline in a MP game and the combat's lack of connection to the story. Maybe it's the loading screens. I don't know, but the combat and the story parts really don't mesh well for me. Hopefully others are having better luck w/ the immersion.
Final analysis. Anthem is a lot like ME: A in that it's not a bad game per se. In fact, had Anthem come from a new developer I'd be a lot easier on it. That it's from BW is a letdown.
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Mar 3, 2019 6:33:51 GMT
The only people left in the discord and subreddit are the kinds of people who will not stop screaming if you say anything critical. They literally attack all reviewers for being negative when there is a clear consensus that the game is mediocre at best. It's a total waste of time. Even on this site's Twitter, you're basically called a troll if you say anything critical about Anthem: I want to know which bleeding heart moderator has taken it upon themselves to speak for our community like this. Because that person is a tool.
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Post by Coronavirus on Mar 3, 2019 9:24:38 GMT
Even on this site's Twitter, you're basically called a troll if you say anything critical about Anthem: I want to know which bleeding heart moderator has taken it upon themselves to speak for our community like this. Because that person is a tool. A significant amount of BioWare fans are rabid SJW’s so speaking on behalf of a community without ever canvassing them for a consensus is bread and butter for them.
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Post by Gileadan on Mar 3, 2019 9:37:24 GMT
Oh frigging hell. Personal opinions should be tweeted from a personal account, not from one that looks like whoever tweeted this is speaking for the entire forum - kinda ironic since speaking for others when posting in that same forum is generally frowned upon.
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Post by Space Cowboy on Mar 3, 2019 11:25:13 GMT
"What gives" is that different people have different opinions. Group think isn't a thing here.
Funny how different people are different?
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Post by ArcadiaGrey on Mar 3, 2019 13:00:20 GMT
A fan forum shouldn't have to be positive about their dev's games, in fact our criticisms should be some of the most useful and valid. I had to stop playing Anthem as it made me motion sick, the screen shake and flashes made it impossible for me to play. The sad fact about that is that I didn't really care, the demo was so decidedly meh that I wasn't bothered if I couldn't play it. From everything I've seen, read and heard since my interest is still close to a zero. All this has left me despondent about BioWare's future and almost uninterested in (and rather skeptical about) DA4. I'm still a fan of what they were and I hope they find that again someday, but I have a right not only to be frustrated and annoyed about their last 2 games, but also to express that here. It doesn't make me a hater or a troll.
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Post by lennybusker on Mar 3, 2019 14:37:15 GMT
Even on this site's Twitter, you're basically called a troll if you say anything critical about Anthem: I want to know which bleeding heart moderator has taken it upon themselves to speak for our community like this. Because that person is a tool. Says on the profile it's Sofajockey.
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Mar 3, 2019 14:39:04 GMT
Agreed ArcadiaGrey, this is a thing for many of us. What bothers me about those tweet posts is the careless hubris. There isn't even an opinion poll from our forum to give that sort of tweet any backup from "the forum". As Gil said, that tweet should have been from that person's personal account. I think that member of the team should be suspended. Seriously. That's fucked up. Edit: I assumed so, the passive aggressive tone matches perfectly. SofaJockey, you need to be suspended. That post is the opposite of how "this community" works "in the community"... So, off property you can say whatever you want for us? I know you already read my reported post on this, but seriously you need a timeout. Disgusting.
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Post by SofaJockey on Mar 3, 2019 15:06:34 GMT
I know you already read my reported post on this, but seriously you need a timeout. Tweets like that are perfectly reasonable and will continue. * This debate is off-topic and will cease.
EDIT: * Actually no, walking back the continuing part. See: bsn.boards.net/post/1238712/thread
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