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Post by cloud9 on Mar 22, 2018 18:52:53 GMT
because everyone's expecting the game to fail. "Dudes on BSN" = "everyone" Gotcha I'm talking about outside from Fan Forum.
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Post by samhain444 on Mar 22, 2018 19:04:21 GMT
"Dudes on BSN" = "everyone" Gotcha I'm talking about outside from Fan Forum. Not everyone outside this fan forum is expecting Anthem to fail...just like not everyone inside this fan forum is expecting Anthem to fail. Just because you want it to be so does not mean it is so... Also, this: "it is actual facts that why BioWare is going downhill because of EA." EA bought BioWare over a decade ago after which they've released some of their most notable and successful titles...released primarily due to EA's acquisition. Some "downhill"...
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Post by ShadowAngel on Mar 22, 2018 19:30:56 GMT
"Dudes on BSN" = "everyone" Gotcha I'm talking about outside from Fan Forum. www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/236077837?sort=0&page=0"Everyone" would be a stretch. Much of those posts I love. "Not enough info to judge" as they aren't wrong. It's premature to say it'll fail or succeed right now but it definitely has people outside of the Bioware fanbase interested or at least curious about it. i also like the comments being hypocritical "why are you excited? You know nothing about it. It's going to fail like any other EA game" to which I'll ask where is that magic ball at 👍 I could link various anthem posts in the destiny forums, at this point those mods are having to either lock them or move them because people keep bringing up Anthem as destinys killer.
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Post by cloud9 on Mar 23, 2018 0:29:03 GMT
I'm talking about outside from Fan Forum. Not everyone outside this fan forum is expecting Anthem to fail...just like not everyone inside this fan forum is expecting Anthem to fail. Just because you want it to be so does not mean it is so... Also, this: "it is actual facts that why BioWare is going downhill because of EA." EA bought BioWare over a decade ago after which they've released some of their most notable and successful titles...released primarily due to EA's acquisition. Some "downhill"... But they got fucked over by giving them deadlines instead giving them time to finish the product, and EA absorbed the studio at Montreal after the disaster of Andromeda. If Anthem fails then it's over for BioWare. No need to deny that fact.
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Post by samhain444 on Mar 23, 2018 1:23:02 GMT
Not everyone outside this fan forum is expecting Anthem to fail...just like not everyone inside this fan forum is expecting Anthem to fail. Just because you want it to be so does not mean it is so... Also, this: "it is actual facts that why BioWare is going downhill because of EA." EA bought BioWare over a decade ago after which they've released some of their most notable and successful titles...released primarily due to EA's acquisition. Some "downhill"... But they got fucked over by giving them deadlines instead giving them time to finish the product, and EA absorbed the studio at Montreal after the disaster of Andromeda. If Anthem fails then it's over for BioWare. No need to deny that fact. Could be...or we could still get DA4 and, if that fails, it's over for BioWare Probably won't get there though. DA2 had similar issues and fan reception to MEA and BioWare came back with their best release and GOTY with DAI. You can feed YouTuberBros subs if you want, I'm sure they're grateful for it, but odds are good they don't know dick about "Anthem's" status or development.
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Post by Sartoz on Mar 23, 2018 13:58:32 GMT
But they got fucked over by giving them deadlines instead giving them time to finish the product, and EA absorbed the studio at Montreal after the disaster of Andromeda. If Anthem fails then it's over for BioWare. No need to deny that fact. Could be...or we could still get DA4 and, if that fails, it's over for BioWare Probably won't get there though. DA2 had similar issues and fan reception to MEA and BioWare came back with their best release and GOTY with DAI. You can feed YouTuberBros subs if you want, I'm sure they're grateful for it, but odds are good they don't know dick about "Anthem's" status or development.
Oddly enough,
I enjoyed DA2, Cartha goons dropping from the sky and reusable cavern assets notwithstanding. Story wise, I easily immersed myself into it and there are humorous tidbits as well. Mostly. I enjoyed it because I could finally use a sword wielding hero with the "auto-attack" feature... something I never was good at without it and never bothered playing that type of class before. DAI removed that feature and I was stuck using an Archer class or a Magic one.
Anthem ought to have an auto-aim on/off switch to make things easier for the inept.
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Post by Pounce de León on Mar 23, 2018 14:08:50 GMT
Could be...or we could still get DA4 and, if that fails, it's over for BioWare Probably won't get there though. DA2 had similar issues and fan reception to MEA and BioWare came back with their best release and GOTY with DAI. You can feed YouTuberBros subs if you want, I'm sure they're grateful for it, but odds are good they don't know dick about "Anthem's" status or development.
Oddly enough,
I enjoyed DA2, Cartha goons dropping from the sky and reusable cavern assets notwithstanding. Story wise, I easily immersed myself into it and there are humorous tidbits as well. Mostly. I enjoyed it because I could finally use a sword wielding hero with the "auto-attack" feature... something I never was good at without it and never bothered playing that type of class before. DAI removed that feature and I was stuck using an Archer class or a Magic one.
Anthem ought to have an auto-aim on/off switch to make things easier for the inept.
I kinda doubt that will happen.
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Mar 23, 2018 14:17:41 GMT
Newsflash! People like crap. John Dombrow is overrated as heck and Overlord was a dumb DLC that everyone liked because it has #Emotion at the end (some circlejerk about an equation that the characters reiterate to cement the "deepness" of the story every chance they get... Mordin said "Had to be me etc." because Dombrow also did the same trick) Overlord had these stupid jumpscare things. It was the first time before the other ME2 DLC where I thought "Huh, Mass Effect feels kinda dumbed down now" but at the time I went with it because it was DLC, like "hey this is bonus content and this is awesome". Frankly I can go with a bit of sillyness in the vibe of the Commander Shepard song so long as the main story keeps it real which it did in ME2---eeerrrrrr I mean world building of the main plot. I always liken modern BioWare writing to "fanfiction" and I've seen many other people, outside of this board mind you, do the same. I think that "fanfiction" esque quality I first noticed in the Kasumi DLC when the animation suddenly looked like a Disney cartoon and didn't aim for realism when she jumps onto Donovan's ship. Then in Lair of the Shadow Broker that was the first time I felt the dialogue itself had a kind of cheap "wannabe [insert that movie] movie" feel to it. Dialogue can be super stiff, super unnatural in ME1 but it had so much idea to it. ME2 DLC was when it started aiming downwards towards "Ooh I wanna write it like that movie I love so much, I'll recreate that scene!" and point is: Dombrow came on board as a DLC writer and so did Sylvia Feketekuty who both went on to main stuff in ME3 and ME3 was the game when BioWare lost me... before the ending, and thus ENTER THE ERA OF BIOWARE ARE FANFICTION WRITERS. Dombrow is overrated. So is Karpyshyn, what's your point? Or is this a display of personal preference that is again seen as something factual? Then again, it's easy to claim something as fanfiction, I guess. Although I got to say what you consider fanfiction is more or less par for the course when it comes to video game narrative expectations. Planescape Torment is the best written game of all time, and it also suffers from problems with its narrative and pacing by virtue of it's design. Hell, Knights of the Old Republic...terribly written to be honest. Avellone did a better job hating on Star Wars canon in Knights of the Old Republic 2, it's the Last Jedi of Star Wars video games. But, it's fondly remembered because of the time capsule of it's release. Writing for video games was weak and something that stood out, with a good twist and was genre-heavy into the nerd culture in 2002, hits strong there. Kotor did nothing with the source material but provide interesting characters with terrible narrative pacing and a weak plot. But thats ok, it fits well into what is more or less the standard for video games. Until we break out of that genre writing and embrace different narrative-styled games, the quality will be a bit on the weaker side. But every time the writers try to do something different, or build upon the expectations of what their fans want but everyone cries foul...well, nothing changes I guess. At least Drew doesn't resort to cheeky inside humor to cover for the fact that he can't come up with more believable dialogue exchanges and he doesn't write to soundtracks and imagine his work is going to be the next Christopher Nolan movie. He writes like himself and that is why Drew is better than John Dumbbrow
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Post by samhain444 on Mar 23, 2018 14:42:17 GMT
Could be...or we could still get DA4 and, if that fails, it's over for BioWare Probably won't get there though. DA2 had similar issues and fan reception to MEA and BioWare came back with their best release and GOTY with DAI. You can feed YouTuberBros subs if you want, I'm sure they're grateful for it, but odds are good they don't know dick about "Anthem's" status or development.
Oddly enough,
I enjoyed DA2, Cartha goons dropping from the sky and reusable cavern assets notwithstanding. Story wise, I easily immersed myself into it and there are humorous tidbits as well. Mostly. I enjoyed it because I could finally use a sword wielding hero with the "auto-attack" feature... something I never was good at without it and never bothered playing that type of class before. DAI removed that feature and I was stuck using an Archer class or a Magic one.
Anthem ought to have an auto-aim on/off switch to make things easier for the inept.
I enjoyed DA2 as well. Just more pointing out the community reaction as opposed to my own personal reaction. The spawning enemies and reused environments were distracting at first but, 7 years later, I don't even really notice any more. After hearing Mike Laidlaw describe the truncated 16 month development schedule, it's quite amazing we got the coherent release we ended up with in the end. Overall, it has some of my favorite BioWare characters, starting with my "Sarcastic" Hawke, and one of the best antagonists BioWare ever conceived in the Arishok...to the point the third act suffers after the epic one to one battle at the end of the second act.
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Post by Pounce de León on Mar 23, 2018 14:53:46 GMT
*shrugs* The pacing in DA2 was kinda off. After running for the 15th time across the plazas of the city I quit playing. Dint even get into the underground it was just the same dungeon and location over and over for some generic missions. I picked it up in a bargain bin before DAI release so not really a loss.
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Post by samhain444 on Mar 23, 2018 15:09:36 GMT
*shrugs* The pacing in DA2 was kinda off. After running for the 15th time across the plazas of the city I quit playing. Dint even get into the underground it was just the same dungeon and location over and over for some generic missions. I picked it up in a bargain bin before DAI release so not really a loss. You were definitely not alone in that sentiment...the game connected with some and not others. Luckily, BioWare had a solid comeback with DAI.
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Post by Pounce de León on Mar 23, 2018 15:16:17 GMT
*shrugs* The pacing in DA2 was kinda off. After running for the 15th time across the plazas of the city I quit playing. Dint even get into the underground it was just the same dungeon and location over and over for some generic missions. I picked it up in a bargain bin before DAI release so not really a loss. You were definitely not alone in that sentiment...the game connected with some and not others. Luckily, BioWare had a solid comeback with DAI. I liked it, but somehow wouldn`t finish a 2nd playthrough.
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on Mar 23, 2018 17:28:03 GMT
You were definitely not alone in that sentiment...the game connected with some and not others. Luckily, BioWare had a solid comeback with DAI. I liked it, but somehow wouldn`t finish a 2nd playthrough. Done 3 pt's, 1 fast (first), 2 as complete as I could. Loved it. DAI>DAO>DA2 for me.
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Post by Sartoz on Mar 24, 2018 17:10:38 GMT
Well,
The days of romance are gone, for Anthem anyway.
The old "glory days" are gone as Bio is focusing on MP... no romance in this format. Wait.. what about "you can play solo"? Hm... solo is not equal to romance. Nope. I see Anthem as a cash grab. I see Anthem as a game that gives player "quests". New "meaty" content will be generated once every 4-6 mo or so, imo. The SP story (if it exists at all) will be short (see SWBF2). Why? Well, Bio had to rethink their MTX/LB progression design after the LB- pay-to-win kerfuffle) and that took time and resources away from completing the game. Now, Bio is short time wise and the studio needs to focus on what they have and do it right.
EA gives Bio a marketing budget and the studio needs to market its game. To do that it needs to shift valuable time and resources away from Anthem to develop their Anthem 2, 3 and 4 game trailers. Any "new stories" are probably for mission quests, daily weekly challenges (see MEAMP) and NOT for developing a strong RPG element for the solo game player... (never mind romance)...that may come later, depending on the community's hue and cry...
Warframe has some "RPG elements" and a "story" but can't hold a candle to the old Bio games such as the DA series. Anthem is not even remotely related to DA or the ME series either. So, it it's a Destiny killer, forget romance and deep character development.
If only Anthem was designed as a RPG game like the Witcher series or the new Cyberpunk game with a MP feature.
Sigh....
PS: My view on Anthem.
PSPS: The best up to date clue about Anthem WILL BE SHOWN IN TRAILER 2.
PS-PS: EA, if you are reading this, I'm looking forward to Cyberpunk 2077 with more earnest than Anthem.
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Post by snowleopard25 on Mar 24, 2018 22:37:04 GMT
Sorry, I am not ready to put on a sour face yet.
Until we all see how they blend the elements of the game together (including monetization), we are guessing without any good clues.
It is also possible that they may have a better game concept than they have revealed, and we should soon know more. (Trailer 2!)
I am still chill...
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Post by samhain444 on Mar 25, 2018 2:17:16 GMT
Thing is, I don't want a CDPR-style RPG. The Witcher 3 was fine but I was done with it after 2 playthroughs and have had no desire to fire it up again the past two years. Alternatively, I've had multiple playthroughs of both DAI and MEA and plan to have more in the future.
Let CDPR do their thing because they are good at it and I'll enjoy Cyberpunk when it finally gets released 3 or 4 years from now.
I want BioWare to do what BioWare does...we'll see soon whether or "Anthem" seems to come close to that or not. As it is now, I'm pretty neutral because I have very little idea what this game entails yet, at least not enough to have a creeping sense of pessimism.
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Post by Sartoz on Mar 30, 2018 14:54:37 GMT
Can't say I'm worried.
Actually, my faith in EA is strong.... strong in the sense that EA will always attempt to stroke investor concerns first = we will pay for it. Like what you say?
Well, as a "live Service" there are examples out there in other games where the pub sticks it to the player.
(1) DLCs that lock existing features behind a new paywall... now you have it followed by now you don't (as an example).
I wonder if new DLCs are optional... the world being "shared".
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Post by hivemind on Mar 30, 2018 17:57:36 GMT
Can't say I'm worried.
Actually, my faith in EA is strong.... strong in the sense that EA will always attempt to stroke investor concerns first = we will pay for it. Like what you say?
Well, as a "live Service" there are examples out there in other games where the pub sticks it to the player.
(1) DLCs that lock existing features behind a new paywall... now you have it followed by now you don't (as an example).
I wonder if new DLCs are optional... the world being "shared".
If Anthem is as it is described - a Destiny clone - then we already have a pretty good example of how it will be implemented. Most of the content will be contained outside of a vanilla shared locations. If DLCs will add new hubs, they will be inaccessible for those who didn't bought them. In the vanilla grind areas there might be some minor chages, which role is just to let you know that DLCs are redy to be bought. Vanilla hubs will feauture new vendors with shiny stuff and huge warnings that you can't touch that. They might also lock you out of all end-game content like Destiny 1 did. Though i doubt - Destiny 2 had quite the backlash for this very thing.
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Post by Sartoz on Mar 30, 2018 18:26:46 GMT
Can't say I'm worried.
Actually, my faith in EA is strong.... strong in the sense that EA will always attempt to stroke investor concerns first = we will pay for it. Like what you say?
Well, as a "live Service" there are examples out there in other games where the pub sticks it to the player.
(1) DLCs that lock existing features behind a new paywall... now you have it followed by now you don't (as an example).
I wonder if new DLCs are optional... the world being "shared".
If Anthem is as it is described - a Destiny clone - then we already have a pretty good example of how it will be implemented. Most of the content will be contained outside of a vanilla shared locations. If DLCs will add new hubs, they will be inaccessible for those who didn't bought them. In the vanilla grind areas there might be some minor chages, which role is just to let you know that DLCs are redy to be bought. Vanilla hubs will feauture new vendors with shiny stuff and huge warnings that you can't touch that. They might also lock you out of all end-game content like Destiny 1 did. Though i doubt - Destiny 2 had quite the backlash for this very thing.
Hm... interesting.
Let's say within 2-3 months after launch, a new paid DLC is offered. Let's also say that 2/3 rds of the gaming population "migrate" to the new DLC ( co-op combat remember?). A new player buys the game and enters co-op combat only to find insufficient number of players in the vanilla areas. How does $60+ bucks feel now? My experience with MEAMP five months after launch certainly showed this "thinning of the herd".
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Post by hivemind on Mar 30, 2018 20:37:59 GMT
If Anthem is as it is described - a Destiny clone - then we already have a pretty good example of how it will be implemented. Most of the content will be contained outside of a vanilla shared locations. If DLCs will add new hubs, they will be inaccessible for those who didn't bought them. In the vanilla grind areas there might be some minor chages, which role is just to let you know that DLCs are redy to be bought. Vanilla hubs will feauture new vendors with shiny stuff and huge warnings that you can't touch that. They might also lock you out of all end-game content like Destiny 1 did. Though i doubt - Destiny 2 had quite the backlash for this very thing.
Hm... interesting.
Let's say within 2-3 months after launch, a new paid DLC is offered. Let's also say that 2/3 rds of the gaming population "migrate" to the new DLC ( co-op combat remember?). A new player buys the game and enters co-op combat only to find insufficient number of players in the vanilla areas. How does $60+ bucks feel now? My experience with MEAMP five months after launch certainly showed this "thinning of the herd".
Congratulations! Uoi just found out why "Games as service" is a crap model!
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Post by Sartoz on Mar 31, 2018 15:14:48 GMT
Anthem and cross platform support.
I believe this was touched upon elsewhere but I can't remember the details. No need to read further if you're familiar with them.
So, what about cross platform support? Technically, it can be done.. However, practically, EA can run into trouble. Here is why.
(1) controls PC and consoles use different control inputs such as kb+mouse vs a console pad. This can have unintended consequences if a co-op group has a mix of game control devices.
(2) Patches. They are usually launched at different times. You can easily envision gaming issues arising while cross platform gaming. The effort to synch patches across platforms is not worth the effort, imo.
(3) Exclusives = DLCs Remember those? No need to explain.
(4) Mods Self explanatory.
Bottom line? It 'ain't happening.
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Mar 31, 2018 15:19:51 GMT
First impressions mean a lot. I wasn't taken aback by anything.
None of that anticipatory butterflies in my stomach feeling is there. You didn't know what Mass Effect Andromeda was going to be until we saw its gameplay. I didn't know what Inquisition was going to be until they finally showed some more off near the end too. I feel like i already know what Anthem is going to be and it's just "like those kinds of games" and nothing outside the box.
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Post by Sartoz on Apr 1, 2018 16:25:31 GMT
Will Anthem be a success?I'm leaning on doubtful. Here is why . STEAM (Valve) earned 4.3B$ in 2017 from 3.5B$ in 2016 (no dlc and in-game purchases in the number). See twitterNow Steam is a private co. but SteamSpy is a 3rd party analytical firm and it's thanks to them that we get some numbers. Earnings like: (1) $800m for PUBG (2) $120m for CS:Go (3) $85m for GTA V (4) ...... So, you say? Well, the dollars points to a few key games that core players are interested in . That is, one can view the numbers as "a few key games have saturated the player market". OK, maybe only for the Steam community. But I think this hold true for other platforms. Anthem, therefore, needs to pry these core gamers away from Steam / other platforms. That goal may be hard to do. Yes, Bio fans will jump at the opportunity to play a Bio game. But, still, EA is banking on a significant player base for Anthem. On a side note, Anthem may pull players away from other and similar EA games (ie: BF2) which won't do EA any favours. Also, if Bio drops support for older hardware platforms, again I view it as a reduction in market potential = increases the difficulty in achieving EA expectations. Bio can't afford another Andromeda and while Anthem may be a good game, re-distribution of the core player base from the key games won't be easy. My 2 cents. PS: How accurate are the numbers? I don't know. The API being used can be found Here Regardless of the accuracy, the aggregate dollars point to a core of gamers playing just a few games.
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Post by rras1994 on Apr 1, 2018 17:32:09 GMT
Will Anthem be a success?I'm leaning on doubtful. Here is why . STEAM (Valve) earned 4.3B$ in 2017 from 3.5B$ in 2016 (no dlc and in-game purchases in the number). See twitterNow Steam is a private co. but SteamSpy is a 3rd party analytical firm and it's thanks to them that we get some numbers. Earnings like: (1) $800m for PUBG (2) $120m for CS:Go (3) $85m for GTA V (4) ...... So, you say? Well, the dollars points to a few key games that core players are interested in . That is, one can view the numbers as "a few key games have saturated the player market". OK, maybe only for the Steam community. But I think this hold true for other platforms. Anthem, therefore, needs to pry these core gamers away from Steam / other platforms. That goal may be hard to do. Yes, Bio fans will jump at the opportunity to play a Bio game. But, still, EA is banking on a significant player base for Anthem. On a side note, Anthem may pull players away from other and similar EA games (ie: BF2) which won't do EA any favours. Also, if Bio drops support for older hardware platforms, again I view it as a reduction in market potential = increases the difficulty in achieving EA expectations. Bio can't afford another Andromeda and while Anthem may be a good game, re-distribution of the core player base from the key games won't be easy. My 2 cents. PS: How accurate are the numbers? I don't know. The API being used can be found Here Regardless of the accuracy, the aggregate dollars point to a core of gamers playing just a few games. A few number of games making the vast majority of the money is not a new thing, it didn't happen because of GaaS, it's been like that for a long time. New games still get made and find players. And it sounds like the Destiny crowd is definetly in the mood for a new game. And yeah the big AAA publishers know that the ecosystem can only support so many games, which is why they've moved from the model of making lots of games and a few making mega bucks and hopefully covering the ones that failed (which led to some publishers going out of business), to making less games per year and supporting for longer. You also realise that EA mentioned Andromeda at least twice in it's investor reports as financially sucessful right? Andromeda wasn't a loss for BioWare, they merged BioWare Montreal cus they were struggling to manage to produce a game on it's own, not cus they lost money.
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Post by Heimdall on Apr 1, 2018 17:58:08 GMT
Does Anthem need those kinds of numbers to be successful?
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