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Post by Iakus on May 1, 2018 17:33:57 GMT
I mean, it’s an interesting concept and the Javelins look dope. But the fact there’s co-op/MP in the main story gives me a bad taste. I just know if I played this game, people would be yelling at me to "just click through the dialogue!"
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Post by KaiserShep on May 1, 2018 18:46:54 GMT
I mean, it’s an interesting concept and the Javelins look dope. But the fact there’s co-op/MP in the main story gives me a bad taste. I just know if I played this game, people would be yelling at me to "just click through the dialogue!" Or the fireteam leader may just do the skipping against your will. If the game is anything like Destiny in terms of how its "singleplayer" campaign functions, you'd be better off just doing actual story missions solo anyhow. Any activity that actually requires a team will probably not have any dialogue to begin with. Possible there may be cutscenes, but I'd expect more of the loading screen variety that can't be skipped.
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Post by Heimdall on May 1, 2018 20:25:41 GMT
I just know if I played this game, people would be yelling at me to "just click through the dialogue!" Or the fireteam leader may just do the skipping against your will. If the game is anything like Destiny in terms of how its "singleplayer" campaign functions, you'd be better off just doing actual story missions solo anyhow. Any activity that actually requires a team will probably not have any dialogue to begin with. Possible there may be cutscenes, but I'd expect more of the loading screen variety that can't be skipped. Well, SWTOR handled it such that Flashpoints had everyone make a choice. If everyone made a choice, it went to the next dialogue. If not, there was a timer that ran out. Whose character spoke their chosen line was down to random chance. That could be a model they would go for.
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Post by KaiserShep on May 1, 2018 20:30:30 GMT
Or the fireteam leader may just do the skipping against your will. If the game is anything like Destiny in terms of how its "singleplayer" campaign functions, you'd be better off just doing actual story missions solo anyhow. Any activity that actually requires a team will probably not have any dialogue to begin with. Possible there may be cutscenes, but I'd expect more of the loading screen variety that can't be skipped. Well, SWTOR handled it such that Flashpoints had everyone make a choice. If a choice was made, it went to the next dialogue. If not, there was a timer that ran out. Whose character spoke their chosen line was down to random chance. That could be a model they would go for. Hoo boy that would ensure that I never have a team with me ever. Friends are overrated burdens anyhow.
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Post by Heimdall on May 1, 2018 20:31:43 GMT
Well, SWTOR handled it such that Flashpoints had everyone make a choice. If a choice was made, it went to the next dialogue. If not, there was a timer that ran out. Whose character spoke their chosen line was down to random chance. That could be a model they would go for. Hoo boy that would ensure that I never have a team with me ever. Friends are overrated burdens anyhow. Which is why that would only be for group only activities aside from the others, like Strikes in Destiny.
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Post by rras1994 on May 1, 2018 21:03:23 GMT
Well, SWTOR handled it such that Flashpoints had everyone make a choice. If a choice was made, it went to the next dialogue. If not, there was a timer that ran out. Whose character spoke their chosen line was down to random chance. That could be a model they would go for. Hoo boy that would ensure that I never have a team with me ever. Friends are overrated burdens anyhow. I'll note for story flashpoints which have locked in choices that can affect you later, the last flashpoints have made you do a solo mode first which locks in your choices. For class story in SWTOR you could group up but the choices where the whoever owned the instance, same for the last expansions of KOTFE and KOTET. SWTOR is actually a very good example of allowing group options but it's still mainly the players choices - the group selected choices like planetory mission arc and some flashpoints wouldn't affect your character later as they were self contained story and again you can do those missions solo as well.
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Post by jamiecotc on May 6, 2018 18:39:33 GMT
All I know is from the trailers Anthem is not the game for me. It's not SP, there's no character creation and based on the very small amount of gameplay, it kind of looks like grindcity. Hopefully, for those who like that sort of thing, the game will be great and BW will deliver a top notch story with it.
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Post by Sartoz on May 6, 2018 20:22:54 GMT
To me, Anthem is just a ME type co-op mp game... albeit more flashy and probably more meaty story wise.
With that in my mind, I can accept the game for what it is.... grindy but initially reasonable. Why do I say this? Well, because game progression advances at a pace I find acceptable. However, after a while my advance slows down to such a point that it becomes a "weapon trigger fest". It's shoot, shoot,... shoot and more shoot to get less, less and less some more. Yes, there is an available randomness that can result in awesome gear acquisition but then it's fairly useless until one gets the upgrades which will require more shooting and getting everything else but what is needed. So, after 2-3-4 months I normally quit these MP games... I've reached my plateau of grindiness.... I've had enough... different maps don't cut it nor enemies.... the GRIND with "no returns" will always be there.
To pay 80$ for a game I play 3-4 hrs/day for three-four months is hardly worth it.... and by the time I do quit three-four weeks went by in high GRIND with "get nothing" sessions...
It may be a game quite different from what I imagine ... hopefully E3 Play will clear a few things.
EDIT: grammar
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Post by Yermogi on May 16, 2018 3:49:04 GMT
From what I haven't seen so far, all I know is I know nothing, because they haven't really said anything. If they make it a game where you have to play with others, I'm out completely. If playing with others is an option, I'll check it out. But as far as I know, they haven't really revealed any details about anything game wise except that people live behind some big-ass walls and the PC goes outside the walls to get stuff.
It really just looks like a spiritual successor to Mass Effect. This is probably their attempt to break back into the sci-fi scene, and we'll see how it goes. I'll reserve further judgment until I know more about the story, since that's what interests me most about any game.
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Post by Pearl on May 16, 2018 8:46:46 GMT
From what I haven't seen so far, all I know is I know nothing, because they haven't really said anything. If they make it a game where you have to play with others, I'm out completely. If playing with others is an option, I'll check it out. But as far as I know, they haven't really revealed any details about anything game wise except that people live behind some big-ass walls and the PC goes outside the walls to get stuff. It really just looks like a spiritual successor to Mass Effect. This is probably their attempt to break back into the sci-fi scene, and we'll see how it goes. I'll reserve further judgment until I know more about the story, since that's what interests me most about any game. Playing with others is optional, although we do not know how different the experiences will be when comparing solo play and co-op.
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Post by mugwump v1 on May 16, 2018 8:56:20 GMT
Meh, given that we already know that Anthem is being designed from the ground up to be a 'fundamentally social' affair, I just don't see how Bioware are going to be able to deliver a strong single-player experience. It'll certainly be interesting to see how they attack that one. Best of luck!
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Post by helios969 on May 16, 2018 9:15:56 GMT
To me, Anthem is just a ME type co-op mp game... albeit more flashy and probably more meaty story wise.
With that in my mind, I can accept the game for what it is.... grindy but initially reasonable. Why do I say this? Well, because game progression advances at a pace I find acceptable. However, after a while my advance slows down to such a point that it becomes a "weapon trigger fest". It's shoot, shoot,... shoot and more shoot to get less, less and less some more. Yes, there is an available randomness that can result in awesome gear acquisition but then it's fairly useless until one gets the upgrades which will require more shooting and getting everything else but what is needed. So, after 2-3-4 months I normally quit these MP games... I've reached my plateau of grindiness.... I've had enough... different maps don't cut it nor enemies.... the GRIND with "no returns" will always be there.
To pay 80$ for a game I play 3-4 hrs/day for three-four months is hardly worth it.... and by the time I do quit three-four weeks went by in high GRIND with "get nothing" sessions...
It may be a game quite different from what I imagine ... hopefully E3 Play will clear a few things.
EDIT: grammar Seems like a pretty good deal to me. My go to price point on gaming is 1$/hour of enjoyment. Of course it's great if I can exceed that threshold, which I have by a wide margin for every Bioware game I've ever played (though some of their recent titles have tedium/frustration mixed in that diminishes the fun). The only game(s) I buy that don't hit that mark are from Naughty Dog, but good storytelling and start-to-finish enjoyment makes it worth it.
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Post by KaiserShep on May 16, 2018 18:45:07 GMT
Meh, given that we already know that Anthem is being designed from the ground up to be a 'fundamentally social' affair, I just don't see how Bioware are going to be able to deliver a strong single-player experience. It'll certainly be interesting to see how they attack that one. Best of luck! Well, really nothing precludes having a strong, engaging narrative, not even the "social" aspect. All that really affects is how much the player is allowed to explore different branches in the narrative. Being what it is, I don't expect alternate outcomes to missions or having my own "personal" world state, but I would hope that they can at least make the most of the linearity and give it the attention it needs so that I'm not in it solely for the gunning and looting. I keep thinking back to Destiny as an example of truly anemic "story"telling, but it was clear from the onset that the game suffered from extensive butchering of its content throughout its development. So far it doesn't look like it was the case here, and it makes me hopeful.
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Post by KaiserShep on May 16, 2018 18:49:23 GMT
All I know is from the trailers Anthem is not the game for me. It's not SP, there's no character creation and based on the very small amount of gameplay, it kind of looks like grindcity. Hopefully, for those who like that sort of thing, the game will be great and BW will deliver a top notch story with it. Has this been confirmed? It's hard to imagine a big BioWare game that doesn't include a character creator. I thought about this from the first-person view of the initial gameplay presentation, but I took the details of that presentation with a bit of salt.
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Post by Heimdall on May 16, 2018 20:29:11 GMT
All I know is from the trailers Anthem is not the game for me. It's not SP, there's no character creation and based on the very small amount of gameplay, it kind of looks like grindcity. Hopefully, for those who like that sort of thing, the game will be great and BW will deliver a top notch story with it. Has this been confirmed? It's hard to imagine a big BioWare game that doesn't include a character creator. I thought about this from the first-person view of the initial gameplay presentation, but I took the details of that presentation with a bit of salt. It hasn’t. And it makes little sense anyway. Games like Destiny and the Division, like many MMOs, have character creation. Players like differentiating themselves in MP games, not being a SP game wouldn’t be a reason for it to lack character creation.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2018 18:08:38 GMT
With what we know thus far, the biggest issue for me will be whether Anthem offers any NPC followers. Also, whether there are ongoing subscription fees.
For me, the biggest draws to BioWare games have always been the world-building, characters, storylines, and squad combat. These are the things that garner my investment in their games.
I've zero interest in co-op play. Whether other, non-squadmate NPCs will provide the same draw remains to be seen. It's a little difficult for me to imagine wanting to go out on missions solo. Even in Bethesda games, I'll usually bring a follower along.
So - I guess we'll see what they have in store.
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Post by masseffectfanforlife on May 19, 2018 4:28:16 GMT
I'm interested in this game, but I can't help but have concerns. Andromeda was okay. There were many problems. Don't get me started on Battlefront. They gotta step it up. When I saw the trailer for E3, it look interesting but remember the player dialogue in the trailer? I couldn't help but be extremely annoyed when I heard the obviously fake players. Scripted chat in gameplay trailers is such massive pet peeve for me. It was painfully obvious like all the others. It's hardly ever like that. From my experience, players are louder, frantic, obnoxious, and sometimes hilarious. We're not idiots. We can tell.
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Post by river82 on Jun 10, 2018 12:47:06 GMT
Have to say my hype-train is firmly moving along now. Anyone else? Yeah baby!
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Post by Conquer Your Dreams on Jun 10, 2018 12:49:10 GMT
Hype train ? Really ? This game YET didn't show anything we haven't seen before. At the moment station seems to be closed.
Also not sure people really would like to go into ANOTHER Titanfall-Transformer online game, there are so many of them already.
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Post by MediocreOgre on Jun 10, 2018 14:19:59 GMT
My hype train de-railed in the station as soon as I heard the VA in the trailer talk about “gods.” I lived through too much mumbo jumbo sci-fi to play a multi-player game dictated by the philosophy of “be extra all the time” to play this just because it’s BW.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2018 14:27:06 GMT
Just watched EA's presentation, I went in feeling neutral and hopeful for the game but I'm left feeling rather meh about it. The old gods is rather Dragon Agey, the big whatever it was they were fighting along with the suits were rather Mass Effecty, yet they're removing companions which are my favourite part of their games? I'm hoping to be enthused by it as the release date nears and I hear ppl's reviews, but for now I'm kinda deflated about it all. And WHY did they announce so early? It could still be great, I hope it is, but I'm not excited. Bugger me it's a new BioWare IP, I should be dancing on ceiling.
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Post by Gileadan on Jun 10, 2018 15:00:30 GMT
I don't know. Watching the trailer and the Anthem Gameplay Features at the EA press conference left me feeling meh and lukewarm.
Especially the story background seems weird. "The gods left the world unfinished but left their tools behind, and these tools are in conflict with a mysterious force called the Anthem of Creation, constantly reshaping the world. Somewhere out there, our old rivals, the Dominion, attempt to weaponize the Anthem of Creation, and you must defend the free people of Tarsis". It's like a fantasy story... with flying mech suits.
Sure, it looks very, very pretty, but the gameplay didn't grab me, and the story... eh.
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Post by MediocreOgre on Jun 10, 2018 15:19:28 GMT
I don't know. Watching the trailer and the Anthem Gameplay Features at the EA press conference left me feeling meh and lukewarm. Especially the story background seems weird. "The gods left the world unfinished but left their tools behind, and these tools are in conflict with a mysterious force called the Anthem of Creation, constantly reshaping the world. Somewhere out there, our old rivals, the Dominion, attempt to weaponize the Anthem of Creation, and you must defend the free people of Tarsis". It's like a fantasy story... with flying mech suits. Sure, it looks very, very pretty, but the gameplay didn't grab me, and the story... eh. I’m still hoping as we learn more it will seem more interesting. Some stories are hard to summarize/tease and BW is really not the best at making trailers that tell you the good stuff.
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Post by Iakus on Jun 10, 2018 15:29:52 GMT
I don't know. Watching the trailer and the Anthem Gameplay Features at the EA press conference left me feeling meh and lukewarm. Especially the story background seems weird. "The gods left the world unfinished but left their tools behind, and these tools are in conflict with a mysterious force called the Anthem of Creation, constantly reshaping the world. Somewhere out there, our old rivals, the Dominion, attempt to weaponize the Anthem of Creation, and you must defend the free people of Tarsis". It's like a fantasy story... with flying mech suits.Sure, it looks very, very pretty, but the gameplay didn't grab me, and the story... eh. So you go out there and fix the Remnant vaults while fighting the kett?
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Post by lucidae on Jun 10, 2018 15:52:36 GMT
overall, I think the game looks pretty cool. I'm mostly turned off by it being a shooter, I'm not a fan of those.
I am worried about the segregation of story and multiplayer though.
I think having the fort be single player only will fall flat. If you're playing with your friends, what will things be like when you finish a mission? I imagine the fort feeling more like an errand because every time you need to go back it will disrupt your group play. It reminds me of having to wait for a group member go sell stuff while everyone else is sitting in the dungeon. And that's not fun.
It's too bad that you and your friends can't become like a dedicated crew and share the story together if you wanted. It'd feel a little cowboy bebop like (jet, spike, Faye), with the support NPCs still on the team at the base (ed, ein).
The javelins look super cool though. They're like mini gundams.
I really want it to do well for DA4s sake. My husband is excited for anthem, so he'll be buying it. I'll probably make my own character on his account and try it. But I don't think I'll be buying my own copy, unless this turns out to be a shooter even I can enjoy.
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